" SUSPICIOUS MINDS" elvis presley

We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out


Sorry if I may sound a little cynical about the response our city manager gave in the News-Herald today, over the lawsuit filed by two resident's over the Immigration Task Force.

Without going into to much detail because a law suit is involved. She responded.

"I announced the task force as an advisory board, invited people to participate and was pleased to have a diverse group of community leaders step up and join." Diverse group? Hardly it was slanted pro-illegal immigration from the get go. Who exactly did you invite? And why?

To see the email s between myself and Ms. Irelan go to "Questions" Moody Blues August 11, 2017

If the meeting were held in 'secret' how were they to solicit community input?

The Task Force Meetings were closed. Members wanted to feel comfortable saying exactly what was on their minds, without fear of retaliation. This is where Ms. Irelan with her knowledge of government should have told them this is a public body and there are no closed meetings. Due to Sunshine Laws there can't be any closed meeting unless certain subjects are discussed and this isn't one of them.

These recommendations will be I guess shared with the rest of us September 11,2017 in Court Room No.1 at a work session of council. Where I expect someone on council to say "we had plenty of meeting for any of you to come and object to the proceedings?"

Sorry Ms. Irelan you struck out in your first at bat. Granted you have only been here a little more than nine months but this is an 'abuse of power' on your part at worse, or trying to shovel a problem under the rug at the least. I don't know who's giving you advise and if your taking it but you don't know or understand Painesville.

To some of you on that Task Force I believe the goal' of many of you is to make Painesville a Sanctuary City. I will promise you through my last breath and many other resident's in town , we will never let that happen! The Late William Horvath as well as Abbey Delmotte tried and failed.

See no special rights or privileges for anyone in Painesville. Change the federal law don't try imposing your will on us.

And finally quit attempting to make our police force do things other than follow the laws.

Special thanks to Arzella Melnyk and James Weber for their belief in this lawsuit!

PRAYER WALK AND VIRGIL AUGUST 31,2017

There will be a Prayer Walk and Virgil tonight in Painesville

Don't just talk it ..... Walk it !!!

Prayer walk and Virgil tonight at  Morse Ave.

6:30 pm

Let's Unite and Wear White !!

"SUNSHINE OF YOUR LOVE' cream

The light's shining through on you
It's the morning...

Above the fold Monday 08/30/17 News-Herald

City sued over meetings

County residents accuse officials
of violating Ohio Sunshine Laws

Well I can't claim I'm surprised, numerous times in the past I believed this Sunshine Law had been violated.

This time it stems from the holding of secret community task force meetings about a controversial immigration policy.

A complaint was filed in Lake County Common Pleas Court accusing City Manager Monica Ireland and Council President Paul Hach of illegally closing task force meetings to the public.

No matter what your views on this subject, the meeting should never be held undercover of darkness.

It's so bad one meeting was held at Harvey High School, a public building I can only hope that this use was sanctioned by the school board? Or has PCLS been turned into Mr. Shepherds private world?

It's not bad enough that this task force is weighted heavily in one direction but how could a sitting city council person on this task force, who I assume knows the rules let this meeting proceed? Can you imagine the uproar if these meeting were slanted in the other direction and were held in secret? The people who wanted this task force interrupted at least three city council meetings and now want privacy at their meetings?

I believe our new city manager acted in haste to make this 'problem' go away may have unwisely stepped in it. Did she confer with our law director for his opinion?

Presently the minutes of the two task force meeting should be made public immediately, as well as the courts demanding the meetings be open to the public as well as public input.

The rule of law has been ignored for to long around Painesville!

BULLETIN AUGUST 27, 2017

IN THE EARLY MORNING;

A SHOOTING WAS REPORTED NEAR JEFFERSON, JACKSON AND CARMODY ST..

LEAVING ONE DEAD.

MORE INFORMATION AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE

PAIESVILLE POLICE NEWS RELEASE;

ON SUNDAY 08/27/17 AT ABOUT 0326HR, PAINESVILLE POLICE  RESPONDED TO THE 130 BLOCK OF WEST JACKSON STREET FOR A SHOOTING WITH A VICTIM AT THE SCENE, OFFICERS RESPONDED AND LOCATED THE VICTIM A 34 YEAR OLD PAINESVILLE RESIDENT ELLIOT A. SPIKES, WHO HAD SUFFERED A GUNSHOT WOUND. SPIKES WAS TRANSPORTED TO TRI POINT HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE WHERE HE DIED FROM HIS INJURIES.

THE CASE IS ONGOING AND IS BEING INVESTIGATED BY PAINESVILLE POLICE DETECTIVE BUREAU. NO ARRESTS HAVE BEEN MADE AT THIS TIME. ANYONE WITH INFORMATIO CAN CALL THE PAINESVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CAN LEAVE AN ANONYMOUS TIPON THE PAINESVILLE POLICE TIP LINE 440-392-5839

LT BURGETT


ALSO ON SUNDAY;

Another shooting took place at 4:06 pm in the city Painesville Police reported to a shooting in area of Maplewood Ct. and Hickory Lane for a man who had been shot multiple times.

As yet an unidentified 24 year old Painesville resident. The victim was transported to Tri Point Medical Center and later transported to MetroHealth Medical Center in Cleveland.

The suspect was later located in Medina. He was arrested on felonious charges and taken to Lake County Jail.

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victim's and their families.

ARREST MADE;

Shaun Hankton 30, of Concord Township was arrested following an investigation of the Maplewood Ct. shooting .

"TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART" bonnie tyler

Turnaround, every now and then I get a little bit terrified
And then I see that look in your eye's

So who in Painesville is terrified?

Best guess most illegal's as well as their families.

So I come to offer advise to some of you 'good' people who want to do right by these people.

I don't expect you to take it but please remember they will be the ones shipped out of the country, not you. In the past 16 years of the Bush and Obama years those administration's might not have taken to much  of an active role in the deportation of illegal's in this country. Due to the result's of the last election things have changed.

Some of you have become well versed in getting print media, as well as TV media to follow your cause. This new administration in Washington might view this exposure as waving a red cape in front of a bull? Maybe it's the right time to go silent? You know out of sight out of mind? No calling WKYC over OVI stops. No rally's in Veteran's Park. just chill .

I realize you believe your heart is in the right place but are you helping the situation or making it worse here in Painesville for these people?

Just a thought I thought to share with you!

"EVERY BREATHE YOU TAKE" the police

Every move you make
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake


First a statement;
I wouldn't be a police officer in Painesville City for five times the money their making!

An officer has to wonder, WTF do you people want?

I real bad morning starts by pulling a vehicle over and asking the driver for license and registration. and getting "Si" back as your answer.
Your bad morning is going to turn into a bad day Why did you pull him/her over ? did you profile them, better not bring ICE in on this!

So what's this all about?

Seems tonight Saturday the Ohio Highway Patrol and Painesville Police will set up an OVI checkpoint at a location some have now called 'Little Mexico?'

A local group will be out looking for what they call 'civil rights violations' at these checkpoints.

Now a new resident to our city Kelsey Fischer (welcome) who moved to our city from Lakewood a couple of months ago according to WKYC news she and her friend Maria along with co-operation from HOLA will act as civil right observers at the checkpoints from 9:00pm to Midnight tonight. They even started an email chain warning illegals about the time and location of the checkpoint.

Now if there is a God and I wish no harm to befall the Fischer family. I wonder what the consequences would be if an illegal, unlicensed driver without insurance would do damage to their vehicle? Ask someone who's suffered this faith?

This plus a wishe-washy letter to the editor that appeared in today's News-Herald by our city manager about Policy 413 ( she's looking for RAZA for advice?) To survive in the Ville' someone better grow a pair!

Least we forget Father Vellenga called the Ohio State Highway Patrol  'evil'.

So officers enjoy your night, with Kelsey, Maria,VD and maybe the good Father will even show up.

To Painesville Police officer's buy a good magazine when you go on duty next week. Save yourselves a lot of aggravation and ONLY pull over vehicles driven by known citizens.

Someone asked me what I believed the repercussions of this will be? I really believe Hal Werner will pick-up votes over B.S. like this!

WE'RE AN AMERICAN BAND grand funk railroad

We're coming to your town
We'll help you party it down


Anonymous @9:06 left this comment;

What's the difference?

A young Jewish boy going to Adolf Hitler High School, home of the Warring Waffen SS

OR

A young African-American going to high school at Robert E. Lee  High School home of the Confederate Rebels ?

Well it didn't take long for them to get an answer!

9:06

This is almost to easy.
You really want to make me believe that the name of a high school will make a student fearful??
Or what?

Are you that big a baby that you feel offended by a person's name?

Unless you are Jewish or Black, what gives you the right to speak for what you think offends someone else? BTW, there are virtually no African-Americans in this country. They are simply Americans, same as me

As a side note, is there an Adolf Hitler School anywhere in the world? I would highly doubt it.

Anonymous @12:44

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Now I  understood 9:06 analogy but 12:44 not so much.

When was fear even mentioned? Maybe not the name but what that name stood for.  One the Holocaust of 6 million Jewish people and the other a society that enslaved a race of people for generations. America's original sin.

Unless your Jewish or Black? Maybe they are? But humans can all feel the same emotions. And my personal favorite, There are virtually no African-Americans they are simply Americans!

This from a person who brings his 152 year Confederate baggage with him including swords, battle flag and statues and tells us deal with it "It's my Heritage". Even his sacred flag seems to have been hijacked by white supremacists? Where were the Son's of the Confederacy when that took place?

When the 'Dukes of Hazard' first appeared on TV the General Lee was cute with the stars & bars on the roof.  But over time unfortunately that flag has now become the symbol of something evil.

We tell Mexican's who fly a Mexican flag on their house ,"come on now your in America assimilate.

My question is when will this Confederate-American become just an American?

"LAST TRAIN TO CLARKSVILLE' monkees

Take the last train to Clarksville
And I'll meet you at the station

News you won't hear from the White House.


Yesterday Union Pacific Railroad announced they were cutting 500 managers as well as another 250 railroad employee's in a move to save the company 110 million dollars.

The move comes due to weak growth in freight shipments and a large drop in coal shipments.

Union Pacific one of the big four. UP, BNSF, CSX, and NS railroads. NS and CSX also have already announced cuts in labor. ( visit NS coal dock in Ashtabula)

I guess my question is how is the coal expansion our President keeps telling us about is getting to it's destination?

And how long are some of you going to believe this snake-oil salesman lies?

Seems the business people on his roundtable disbanded? Well not to be slighted HE disbanded it first? After they told the White House they quit!

I have no idea how long good Republicans as well as their legislators will stick with this President but truth be told Everything on the agenda is now in jeopardy!

Healthcare
Deregulation
Tax cuts
Infrastructure

yes even his Wall.

FOXNEWS reported that after Tuesday's press conference they couldn't find any Republican leader's to go on air to defend the President.

Last week it was attack Mitch McConnell, today Lindsey Graham?

During the campaign he complained President Obama couldn't say
" Extreme Islamic Terrorist Groups"

YET Today
He can't call

"Extreme Domestic Terrorist Groups"  Like the White Supremacists?

"NO SURRENDER" bruce springsteen

Like soldiers in the winter night
With a vow to defend,
No Retreat No Surrender


As I watched what had happened on cable news in Virginia this past week. It reminded me of 9/11 . my eyes witnessed  it but my brain keep telling me it's not real it must be a movie?

This shouldn't be my country?

People with torches, shouting 'blood and soil', Jew's will not replace us.

Least not forget the young American woman crushed by the weapon of a vehicle along with twenty injured bystander's.

All under the cover of 'Heritage'? What exactly is your heritage? Bigotry, slavery, treason and defeat?  A failed heritage.

Who erects statues of loser's? See any Hitler or other prominent generals erected in Germany? Or anywhere for that matter?

We have a President today, who compares Washington and Jefferson to Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. The first two founded this country and the later two committed treason to destroy the union. If there were any statues to be erected in the south it should have been General Sherman and General Grant.

The sadness I felt as I witnessed the Nazi Swastika side by side the American flag? Everyone should be forced to watch the first twenty minutes of 'Saving Private Ryan' and take a tour of a German Concentration Camp. What in God's name do Neo-Nazi's have to do about  America? I'm so glad my father as well as other American soldier's, sailors and marines aren't around to witness last weekend.

My surprise at the White Supremacists, a friend told me come on you read some of the comments you receive. Ang, there are more 'closet' white supremacists in Painesville than you think. You better than anyone should know that. Being born white is not an accomplishment!

My final thought's on this is watching the crowds it appears to be filled with many young white males a very scary proposition. That with minorities of any kind will not change this thinking. Only White Americans can push back on these hate groups and tell them there's no room for you in our country.

I guess all that being a good Christian most be a bunch of Bull?


I guess I should be thankful there are no Confederate statues in my hometown.

'TAKE A CHANCE ON ME" abba

Take a chance on me
If you need me, let me know, gonna be around


9 people for 3 spots, 3 are incumbents. So who are these new-bee's and what do the bring to the table? To be truthful many I have never seen at a council meeting and what makes them throw their hat in the ring? Have they ever spoken to  the person holding that seat they want ,with concerns or suggestions?

To be truthful this city presently seems in far better shape than it was a dozen years ago when I took an interest due to the 3.9 charter change levy was attempted to pass. Everything from the Cemeteries  to road's.as well as some of the flooding issues.

First the city is in better shape due to levies as well as $8.00 surcharge on your water bills and we seem to have survived the recession of 2007.

Now how much do these candidates know about our city? Will we ask? What's their view on reciprocity income tax? Do they know anything about AMP-OHIO? financials of the city? Does the police department have adequate funds, what about the fire department? Are they aware we will need to share the cost of a new Tower truck within a few years? Our share around $450,000 with Concord Township picking up the other half? If road levy passes do they know which roads need the most repair? It's not just a better place to live, work and play it's a lot of saying yes and no. And sometimes you can't make everybody happy.

What are their views on funding the Downtown Painesville Organization is a waste of money or should we increase funding? Seems to be an unwritten law that 50% of all tax dollars somehow end up in those two square blocks?  Any ideas on/for a Senior Center or just keep writing the present checks?
Since you are all running for at large seats what do you see as the biggest problem in Ward I, II III, IV? What are the biggest attributes of each Ward?

Yes, I know we will be inundated with illegal immigration but please let's keep our eye's on the ball!

"QUESTION" moody blues

Why do you never get an answer
When your knocking at the door

Someone asked a question about the "Immigration Committee" that the city had formed.

So I took it upon myself to find out some of the peculiar's

I sent an email to assistant city manager Douglas Lewis  (who is presently on vacation) and got this reply.


Doug,
It has come to my attention that the administration has formed an immigration committee, will this committee hold public hearings and will the public be able to ask questions? My only concern is that these meetings do not happen under the cover of darkness ad the city publicize the time and place of them.
Thanking you in advance Angelo
Sent from my iPhone

Reply

Good Afternoon Angelo,

Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately Doug is on vacation, so you will not be hearing from him.  This email was forwarded to me, and I would be happy to clarify the situation for you.

This is not a committee of Council. It is a task force put together by me John Shepard to advise me on concerns tied to my policy specifically (Policy 413). The task force itself was announced in a couple of Council meetings and via of a press release.  The participants have been released to the newspaper along with bios. There has been no darkness in the creation or participation of the task force.

The process has been public, and the recommendations/implementation will be shared publically, You are always welcome to ask e questions or share your concerns.

Have a great day

Sincerely,

Monica

MY Reply

Monica,

Thanks for the quick response. My question was would these 'task force' discussions be done in front of the public and could the public ask questions? I have noticed it seems to be weighted in a certain way.

Thank-you

Angelo

Still waiting

People serving on this 'Task Force'

Veronica Dahlberg, executive director of HOLA

Rev. Christopher Zerucha, Priest at St. Mary Painesville.

Feliciano  Gamez, Painesville resident and active community member

Councilwoman Christine Shoop Ward I council person

Officer Roberto Soto, a bilingual officer on the Painesville Police Department

Also a local business owner and immigration lawyer have been invited. There first meeting was June 29?

So don't expect an open forum or any dialoged with this task force. They will make their finding to council who will review them in executive session and vote on changes (if any) in a council meeting.

This is not the way it should be done , but well. My only concern is that the wrath of the U.S. Justice Department, INS,ICE  doesn't come down on Painesville or through these actions we loss badly needed grant funds.

If your not crazy about this procedure please inform our present city manager.

Please stick to fixing roads, purchasing fire truck ect. DO NOT involve yourself in Federal  affairs.

"WE BELONG" def leppard

Sometimes I feel I don't belong here
Sometimes I just don't feel....

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Here is the list on candidates running for Council-At-Large
Painesville City

1/1/2018
Tom Fitzgerald  *
Ana Padilla
Hal G. Warner

1/2/18
Maria G. Ceja
Lori DiNallo  *

1/3/18
Dora Acosta
Marsita l. Ferguson
James Fodor  *
Traci Montgomery

* Denotes Incumbent


As someone noted in a comment we have one Hispanic lady running in all three spots. My only hope is that they are not just  "One trick ponies "That they will bring more to the plate then immigration.

We can decide what and who will bring the best result's for resident's of Painesville.

I am as you should be, very interested in what these candidate's platforms will be?

Three surprises.... Number of people running against Jim Fodor, Tom Fitzgerald running for re-election with his dismal  attendance record as well as people who I thought would run that didn't.

"UNDERSTANDING" bob seger

It seems like only yesterday
I didn't have a clue
I stood alone not knowing where to turn


Have had many conversations with people in Painesville about the deportation's of two illegals in Painesville. I must say there is very little sympathy for these who were deported.

Most people have decided that illegal's in this country have none of the 'Rights' a citizen has in this country along with the constant 'Demands' of these illegals.by them or their surrogates.

Most were offended by the disruption of three council meeting even after the city manager explained the city's position on Policy 413. There were many who felt like I did that the administration caved to the demands of the group.

Also many, no matter on which side they were on felt offended by people from ANYWHERE outside of Painesville complaining for or against the policy.

Many seem disgusted by people like Veronica Dahlberg or any HOLA representative with the idea to jam something down the people of Painesville's throat. It's not going to happen.

Hardly surprised how much pushback I heard on Father Vellenga's written statement that law enforcement as well as other government employee's were 'Evil' for following the law? I would suggest to the good Father that he walk back his letter and in the future let the Diocese and  Bishop Nelson Perez handle the situation. Also many questioned what the Hispanic community must think if a Priest calls law enforcement evil? 

Also on Facebook post's many showed very little sympathy to these deported people as well as the cry "don't break-up family's" many wondered what kind of mother who not take her family with her?

Someone mentioned the reason these two were deported so quickly as they had already had hearing about being in this country illegally and therefore could be deported without another hearing.

I see no fast quick solution to this problem in the near future.

"BOTH SIDES NOW" joni mitchell

I've looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
It's cloud's illusions I recall
I really don't know clouds at all...


No one is chimed in on why these illegal's should be allowed to stay?

Maybe they believe they are to good for this site?

Here is a story we all should think about.

First off it is not anyone's 'Right' to live in this country, it is a 'Privilege'
for us receive this privilege just by the fact of being born here. Seems like a low bar to become an American citizen.

With this 'Privilege comes 'Responsibility' to continue to make America the greatest country in the world.  When someone is invaded we show up, when famine hits, we show up when natural disaster's happen , we show up. Never in the history of the world has there ever been a country of our greatness.

Now the story;

Last week the United States Navy took possession of  the guided missile destroyer Rafael Peralta., named for the valiant San Diego Marine killed in Iraq in 2004.

For his valor of saving three member's of his unit he received the Navy Cross.

Peralta's mother Rosa is the sponsor of the destroyer, A great naval honor, she will bestow the name upon the warship during it's formal commission.

Born in Mexico City in 1979, Perala's family brought him to the United States. A graduate of Samuel F.B. Morse High School who later attended San Diego Community College. Peralta did not receive his  green card until he enlisted in the Marines in 2000 but he died an American citizen.

This young Marine understood Privilege and Responsibility...." Semper Fi"

We can only hope 11:24 doesn't think Mexico is taking over our Navy?

And the three Marines he saved weren't Hispanic.

"STILL CRAZY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS" paul simon

CONGRATS TO PAINESVILLE'S NEW WARD III COUNCILMAN

NICK AUGUSTINE

NICK IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF PAINESVILLE AND WORKS AT POLLUTRO INSURANCE. NICK IS A GRADUATE OF BOWLING GREEN UNIVERSITY.



Still crazy after all these years
Oh, still crazy after all these years



How many years has this problem been with us?


Beatriz Casillas statement for masses July 29-30 by Father Vellenga

Beatriz Casillas was detained by the Highway Patrol on I-77 and reported to Border Patrol last week and  is designated for deportation this Tuesday. She is the mother of 4 minor children and a member of St. Mary Parish. She has no criminal background or even a minor traffic infraction. She is undocumented. Many years ago she was caught, attempting to enter the U.S. illegally and was deported.

The actions taken by the Highway Patrol and Border Patrol are evil. The security forces in our country are meant to protect all people. When they focus on non-violent and non-criminal elements of our community, they leave us vulnerable to the criminals and violence that is part of our society. The actions taken by the security forces only serve to sow fear and intimidate peaceful families and especially the children.

Bishop Daniel Flores of Brownsville, Texas questions the morality of the United States deporting individuals back to countries that are experiencing massive violence. He states "I consider supporting the sending of an adult or child back to a place where he or she is marked for death, where there is lawlessness and societal collapse, to be formal cooperation with an intrinsic evil." their plight is a right to life issue.

Beatriz will be deported to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico on Tuesday , drug cartel country. Two Painesville dads deported to Nuevo Laredo last Tuesday have been kidnapped for ransom, have not  been heard from since their abductors put them on the phone asking for $3000.

Not all workers in governments offices involved with immigration law are considered to be cooperating with evil. But, some positions appear to be immoral such as an official who approves a deportation order, pilots who fly deportees back to their home countries and law makers who vote for unjust deportation policy.

We can choose the unfortunate path that has preceded so many injustices and genocides in world history, remaining silent. We do not need to be heroic. But we need to be faithful to the Gospel.

Please consider calling, emailing or writing your elected representatives to stop Beatriz Casillas deportation. This statement is available to express your individual support.

Rep. David Joyce
Sen. Sherrod Brown
Sen. Rob Portman

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Now when I think of evil I think Adolf Hitler, Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. I don't think of a Highway Patrol officer any police officer or an ICE agent . I see people following the law. The pilots flying the plane? So if you agree with any the above as evil. Then is entering a sovereign country illegally, stealing a persons I.D. or Social Security number, not paying taxes and/or abusing that countries social services, maybe even the van driver who takes you to jobs you work at under the table. Driving without a valid driver's license or insurance,  Knowing of a  violent individual in your neighborhood who could rape or kill a person. Would they fit into Father Steve's 'evil' description?

Now I have been told the two Hispanic ladies running for council would possible like to make Painesville a 'Sanctuary City'  myself I choose not to go down that rabbit hole. What good would that do? The people mentioned above were arrested outside of our community. So if your goal is to stay in the confines of Painesville City forget about shopping, working, or entertainment outside of the city.

I do agree that deportees only be released in safe areas and not in the middle of the night.

As a group of people in this city, we must stop calling other's evil or racists, criminals, feeloader's. We must work together to find a workable solution to this problem. Violence as well as name calling will never solve anything.