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City of Painesville
9-11-17 council workshop
Some days won't end ever and some days pass on by
I['ll be working here forever, at least until I die
Damned if you do damned if you don't
Attended Painesville Council work session on Policy 413, left more confused than when I arrived?
Seems like many of you that comment here don't attend these meeting? Everyone treated everyone with respect so I know most of you weren't at the meeting.
What is this Policy 413? Seems it's a policy NO one likes pro or con undocumented? Who's brain child was this? Was it approved by our Safety Director? Who is presently our Safety Director? Last I knew it was the City Manager? Did the Safety Director whom ever it is approve of 413?
Was it a crime to release Policy 413 on
Cinco de Mayo Day when it was released to a local TV station?
Big Changes?
The language criterion no longer applies. Not a problem my Grandmother couldn't speak English when she entered the country legally. See when most of our ancestors came to this country they neither need to speak English have a skill, the main requirement was just a warm body to show up.
Wording on gang actively was limited to criminal organization or criminal enterprise.
Charged was retained instead of convicted, because of Resolution 3808 passed in 2008 by city council. They are not going to contact ICE over every single charge? I expect council to revisit 3808 in the near future. So who decides when and when not to call ICE?
There were many that wanted "domestic violence" not to be included for fear of deporting the family bread winner? Without that fear women in this situation can expect to be treated as punching bags by some of these men, it was left in as well as OVI charges. Sorry no get out of jail free card for beating up your wife, or driving while under the influence.
Reports for outstanding charges and warrants from outside communities will continue to be honored.
The city manager as well as superintendent Shepard claimed the group met four times and also had meetings with more than 100 individuals and groups since May. Sorry if I'm a little skeptical of this number with whom and what groups did you meet with? Please produce minutes to these four meetings.
One individual claimed there was no federal law that local police must co-operate with federal authorities, and that police officers need not ask if a person is here legally? Not sure of that but, let's say an officer stops me I don't speak to him or show him identification or driver's license guess I'm going to jail, as anybody should. Yes sometimes you have to show papers.
Must admit that Councilman Fodor understood the diverse groups in this city. Claiming one group wants to understand how a person that lived here for seventeen years gets stopped for a broken taillight and is deported within a week. As well as another group that understands an illegal resident was in custody of our sheriff department and a week later after his release tried to rape a 14 year -old girl, shot a woman in front of her children on the bike trail murdered another woman in her home that he shot.
Someone questioned to me the number of outside Painesville residents that want us to respect illegals? "Why don't they take a couple of them home" My answer is why and for what reason did many leave Painesville? Something tells me this might be a case of NIMBY?
Demonstration for DACA today Veterans Park. I hope you people know what your doing? It appears your drawing a very large target on Painesville undocumented, illegal population? This could end up with the opposite ending you envisioned.
I posted some of the number's and addresses of where to report illegal individuals only as a warning that there are many in this community that don't share your willingness of inclusion.