"MORE THAN A FEELING"
First let me start out how saying how strange it is going by the empty hospital. All I can say is "Well the lights are on but nobody home."
Back to the "Meet the Candidates Night." I thought the format the was used was a good idea on how to get the largest amount of questions asked in the shortest amount of time. I just wish more of the questions were asked. One interesting question was Do you believe illegal immigration is a crime? All five candidates answered YES. So if this is any indication Painesville might be on the way of losing it sanctuary city moniker. Many questions were asked about the job different departments in the city were performing. Four of the candidates thought the city manager was doing an outstanding job, John Murphy when answering the question did not want to give the city manager a vote of confidence. All candidates thought the cities greatest asset was the utilities department and all believed that this would sustain Painesvilles future growth. They all believed Painesville need a P.R. person as to get more positive instead of negative reaction from people outside of the city. One resident claimed that the city was infected with drug dealers and gang members and asked why the police are not doing more to rid our neighborhood of this problem.
Just my observation but the city's government stands a pretty good chance of having a great influence on it by people directly or indirectly connected to the school system. I believe this could cause more problems in town.
In closing why is the former council president such a bitter person? Sorry Bill but move on with your life and quit being used as a "plant" by others around you.
I think I got a good idea who KAREN is? So I got more out of the night then I expected. Could be 100% wrong too, I'm getting as bad as the rest of you.
In closing all candidates told residents if they had any question to call them and they would discuss their concerns one on one.
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So every one thinks utilities will save Painesville? Here's a surprise get rid of the drugs,and gangs, make the public schools outstanding and people will flock to Painesville. Our school system is dismal and I'm being kind. Rated at the bottom in the county. Now the same people that screwed that organization up want a hand at running the city? If that happens there will be more then an empty hospital in town. You gave them the roadmap with that magazine article and all they do is ignore it, ask council president if Painesville was rated in the top five if we would agree with it. What makes you think I would go and listen to the same crap I've heard in the last twenty-five years? Sorry your wrong!
KAREN
Good post Term, thanks for all the work you put in to this blogspot, now just one little favor, please put up one more post, so Tibbets face is gone.
So interesting to find out all these school officals view a large part of there student body criminals? I will remind my children that they can't trust the smiles.
Although I haven't lived in Painesville in decades, I grew up there--and even back in the 60's the schools were considered the worst in Lake County (I was in Hal Werner's graduating class--though I only knew him casually). That said, there were always students who excelled. In fact, in my class the valedictorian went to an Ivy League school, and another student went to Smith College. It's not like it wasn't possible to get a decent education. Can things now be so bad that even the top students aren't at the same level as top students everywhere?
This is off subject, but I just read it and it made me really angry. I read on page 7 in today's News-Herald that the State of Ohio is now offering a new license plate that features a barn and and a Wright Brothers plane. You can now get this plate, or the current red, white, and blue plate.
This is all OK, but it says that because of the increases approved by the state legislature, the license plate fee has been raised from $6.25 to $11.25.
So now we get taxed an extra $5because the state approved an optional design for license plates? You pay the $11.25 whether you get the old plate or new plate.
I wish people would start realizing all the hidden taxes around us, for which this is one.
Anonymous 9:18am, if the shoe fits......
9:38 Things aren't that bad even worse. Anyone who cares about their childs education would steer clear of the Painesville schools. New building help but....Ask the parents.
This is the main resson for Painesvilles decline. Some colleges won't even accept grade transcripts from Harvey.
12:01 Don't get to excited actions speak louder then words. I think it was a more duck and cover although Mrs. Dinallo will have alot of explaining at work.
Mary Poppins
no grades this time?
I was disappointed that Hada tried to bully everyone into changing the format. His buddies Andy and Bill backed him up, they were on a mission to ask questions that discredited other candidates.
This was just another example of the same tactics he currently uses on council.
Nice to see I wasn't the only one to see a question asked from someone who tried to read it from a piece of paper? If you lose to Werner you should realize the gig was up.
No grade this time everyone in attendance thought all candidates passed with flying colors. If you went to the meeting you got a pretty good idea what kind of representation you were voting on.
You don't give grades on the candidates views only on presentation. I know I'm going to hear about this.
I was disappointed that Hada tried to bully everyone into changing the format. His buddies Andy and Bill backed him up, they were on a mission to ask questions that discredited other candidates.
Andy never asked a question. Bill never "backed him up". You are either a liar or sadly mistaken. Some other guy wanted to ask a question and fought for that format and he was first called on.
Good thing people asked their own questions. The questions Abney and Werner drew up were awful. "when are the police going to start doing their jobs?" Please.
It was good to see the people who were told they could ask questions actually get to do so rather than get stuck with Abney and Werner's agenda.
Anyone know whom they are supporting? My guess is murphy.
"Sorry Bill but move on with your life and quit being used as a "plant" by others around you."
Well is that the pot calling the kettle black. Projecting a little aren't we?
Angelo any question you ask is a "plant" for Murphy. Any questions you and Murphy's buddies ask is a plant for Murphy. This whole blog is a plant for Murphy.
Angelo asks questions he wants answered, Murphy doesn't need a plant. Andy Thompson did stick up for Joes format I was sitting at the same table and the question Bill asked he couldn't even read. Do I want Murphy to win Sure, but this by far is not his blog. I heard alot of people happy with the original format. count the number of questions that were asked in each half hour. Joe Hada also call a councilman I happen to be friends with that they should be brought up on malfese charges. And than never persuded it Why? Some interesting facts will come up before the election the article in the News-Herald today must also be one of my plants. Oh and if a resident is interested in a coucilpersons vote call him, the teacher needs not to get an explaination.
I don't like Joe Hada and I don't like John Murphy. Ablind man could see what Bill Horvath was trying to do. Thank God his reign is over, remember the letter to Senator DeWine anyone?
I see an Hispanic man has been charged with rapeing a 17 year old Harvey student. Is this a case of "Profiling" Councilman Hada?
Mr.Rellik
9:20 The article today about the alleged rape, is a rental owned by someone in Athens, Texas 75751
Absentee Landlord, just give me my money. I don't care about the city.
Note; I did not print the owners name TERM>>
It is an alledged rape, no conviction as of now.
It would be interesting if this person was here legally, if he had a previous record, where he was employed. Maybe we could open some eyes one way or the other
I'ts really nice to know you read this blog Mr. Hada.If you are so against certain people why are you using this blog as a referance. Tougher than you realized; MAYBE ? Let go of your ego. You nor Mr. Horvath are not all that; But deserve each other.
In 2007 he was convicted of driving with no Ohio License. That is a good signal that he is illegal, but we don't know the whole story. But it does give a good reason to suspect. If he is illegal and the judge let him off in 2007, he is responsible for this (alleged) rape. The judge missed an opportunity to have him deported back then, before he had a chance to rape (allegedly) this 17 year old girl. There are questions and the judge needs to give us some answers.
Who can I complain to about Hada and now Kalb putting signs on the city property next to my house? I am getting tired of taking them down. I have signs for MY candiates on MY property and I dont want people to think I am voting for those other two. I think it is wrong and against the law.
If Joe reads this he will accuse me of profiling the incumbents.
How about all of the John Murphy signs on lots that don't want them, and by the river and on city lots, and I think you might be breaking the law, by removing the signs next to your house that would be theft......
That seems to be the problem that John's trying to get people to focus on. Although the city may give you the idea they own the land by the River, the Bear still holds title. Lots that don't want them send me alist.
Term, wrong part of the river, you just think you know everything don't you ?
Man you are so Murphed you can't see he does somethings wrong.
Lots that don't want them send me alist.
Angelo does that mean you are involved with the murphy campaign? That explains alot of your posts and your baises. So its clear now. You complain about the city and the others for personal gain and the gain of your candidate. You can say your complaints are genuine but I think we all can see you for what you are.
No Angelo doesn't. It means if you will give me a list of John Murphys signs that don't belong somewhere I will give the list to John and he can remove them. My compaints aren't genuine? Look around! What I am is tired of watching my Hometown destroyed by lazy, ineffective leadership. Hey, we got a light plant.
murphy does not have a sign where it should not be. all his signs have been positioned where he has asked them to be. with the permission of the owner. and the owner is not the city! he has signs in alot of landlords properties, not just mr.gibbs. and for the record, mr. gibbs is not endorsing mr. murphy! just because there is a sign on his property on 84, that does not mean that, that is an endorsement. people, grow up. there is alot of signs in this city that should not be placed where they are, does anyone think this is wrong? i do. but i'm just one person.i'm a civic minded person that wants this election to be run in away that is beneficial to the residents of the city. if you don't like a particular candiate, for what ever reason, that is your business, but VOTE, next tuesday. and lets hope the best 3 win. a citizen who has already voted and is proud of his vote.
12:38
"but i'm just one person. i'm a civic minded person that wants this election to be run in away that is beneficial to the residents of the city. if you don't like a particular candiate, for what ever reason, that is your business, but VOTE, next tuesday. and lets hope the best 3 win."
Exactly what I've been saying all along. People need to do their talking with their vote. Who I, Term or 12:38 votes for doesn't mean crap. When the day is done, the top three will be on Council. Crying now or crying later does no good. You need to vote on Nov. 3rd.
12:38 you are so wrong I found 7 Murphy signs on just one side of town, that are not on home owned properties, they are on empty lots and yes city owned properties, I stopped in and asked the people next to the lots they told me one lot was owned by a lady in Fla. who has not been around for 30 years, one told me the lot was owned by a bank, one told me the lot was owned by the city, and one more told me the lot was his and he did not want it and took it down, so you need to check your facts, and one more fact I talked to Bob Gibbs and he want's Murphy to win real bad, he said "the guy down on State st. that is getting a new roof from his people, will make sure John wins" just so you know he was talking about Saint Mary's church.
So it is a to bad you voted for Bob Gibbs patsey.
Thank-you for the information, now give me some addresses so I can tell John to pick these signs up. {people are asking for one to be put in their yards and if there are 7 misplaced ones let him know]}. You and Bob Gibbs talked? John attends Mass at St. Anthonys in Fairport, so I have no clue what your talking about?
Term,
I think 7:34 am was talking about something Bob Gibbs said,
he loves to say
"If you can't get satisfaction from me (him)you should go down to St. Mary's church, maybe you can get some from him(god)"
So when Bob told him, "the guy (god) getting the new roof (st marys) would make sure John wins".
He said nothing about John Murphy and church.
Bob Gibbs is one of the worst people to be associated with, if he is helping John to win, he will get paid back for every sign or word he uses.
I didn't vote for any patsy, but I ask for sign location and I hear about a new roof at St. Mary's? Please forgive me "He said nothing about John Murphy and church?" help me out I missed something."Just so you know he was talking about St. Mary's Church?"
Please where are the signs.
You seem to want to know pretty bad where those signs are. Is it because you put up sign in bogus locations all over town and now want to know which ones you got busted on? So you only have to take down a few rather than all of the signs in bad locations?
Signs..just saw one..treelawn in front of Gristmill..the last I knew the City now owns that.. I will keep looking..their everywhere..mostly at rental properties with the current tenants have little say about them. Actually heard of their being one in a city cop's yard, until I learned he is just renting the house..from..hmm..hold on..the suspense..another city cop that is one of Horvath's cronies. My how we change sides.
You sure the city owns that? Or the last you knew? To 4:15 I have a general idea where I'd like to stick those signs! John Murphy is the only one with signs in the wrong place?
Signs have to be placed with the owners consent. Renters have no say.
"The last I knew"..yes the City owns it, but don't dare touch it cause I heard Murphy's campaign crew is complaining about their signs being damaged to the police. I guess when the crux of your signs are on rental property and the renters have no say..then just might start being damaged by the renter who doesn't want the sign there in the first place. Oh well..maybe John's campaign manager should be answering this instead of just sticking signs wherever he wants.
The wooded area area across from Millstone has a Murphy sign posted, maybe the homeless are showing their support for John as well..what a joke.
Term..here is one for you. Murphy get this enacted as a city ordinance and you have my vote.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/10/dallas-police-for-issuing-ticket-for-driving-without-speaking-english.html
8:38 need a joke look around how your citys being run.
All 5 running for council believe that illegal immigration is a crime. I can't figure out why nothing happens. Murphy will enforce the rules of the city and if the administration doesn't he'll at least try to get a new administration that believes in laws.
No more easy way out for the people serving on council he will hold them accountable, thats why they don't want him sitting up at the front table.
for all of you who think that john murphy has signs where they should not be,i can't believe that with all the issues that are in this town, that are alot more prevelant than who has a sign where and if it should be there or not? i personally don't care about the signs, i'm voting for the candiate, not where his or her sign is! people, grow up! asign or a billboard doesn't make the candiate. the character and humility of the person gets my vote. gateway to a better painesville
Anonymous 7:44pm, tell me, why does a stance against ILLEGAL immigration make anyone a racist? Tell me.
God put us on the earth to live. He drew no maps and he set ten commandments, where in the commandments does it say I can't live where I want? Term, Murphy and a small group of old timers want to poison you about Mexicans we are here and we are not leaving.
We will keep our culture and our speach you will not treat us poorly.
Until I read the article about HOLA in the paper today I thought term and his buddys were loons .They don't want equal rights they want special rights. Is this woman crazy?
Nelson St.
4:27AM, wanna bet?
Ms. Dahlberg only reason for this meeting is that last week in Painesville an hispanic man was arrested over an alleged rape of a 17 year old girl. She must change thee message from whats going on here to poor us. A druck driver no insurance, no licence, and in the country illegally should not face deportation? Poor example if you ask me. Ms. Dahlberg has pretty much had the run of thinghs around town because no one wants to challenge her and face being called a racist. Sorry V.D. I'm not buying, I wonder if anyone seen the announcement of the meeting at St.Johns? St. Johns? What happened at St. Marys? Friend of Senator Mike DeWine now Senator Sherrod Brown? Ms. Dahlberg is only loyal to herself.
I was thinking the same thing Term, Damage control.
what meeting at St. Johns? You mean St. John Vianney?
This poor 17 year old girl as sad as it is hit the trifecta, Most unsafe city, then had to report it to the worse school system in the county, and now she has this stupid activist running around town? Please Lord save us from this place.
You know I read the article over and they really never stated where the meeting was at? They only mentioned was a Deacon from St. Johns in Painesville was present. Knowing V.D. like I do this was a staged meeting and only wanted her invited guests. I attended her last meeting at the New Market Mall. You would have thought Judas walked in the door.
St. Johns Baptist Church is at 231 W. Jackson St.
Painesville
The newspaper never mentioned where the meeting was, chances are it was held at HOLA central[ Lakeland College Room at New Market Mall. By the comments on the News_Herald website, every elected offical should see what Painesville thinks about this issue.
I reread both news article, yes V.D. was crying in the Plain Dealer picture. I think the meeting might have been in her hometown of Ashtabula.
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