Wednesday, August 27, 2008

YOU ASKED?

Someone asked what a council person could do to help illegal law breakers. Without passing judgement. Ask yourself if you were an illegal in a Motel 6 in Arizona watching this news show, where would you go?

109 Comments:

At August 27, 2008 at 5:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting this. I have heard about this video for a long time and it is even worse than I imagined. Abby, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Now I see why people are saying that you are responsible for Painesville being a sanctuary city. You contributed greatly to this problem --now step up to the plate and do what's right and rectify this!

 
At August 27, 2008 at 6:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is fox news. I think we should know where this was going before it started.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok honest question: does painesville city have the ability to control bank policy? because if so that is awful.
-NN

 
At August 27, 2008 at 6:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

the ending was bull. typical of fox. so what if they take off, its the banks money not painesville's

 
At August 27, 2008 at 6:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

When was that, if it was in the last two months I missed it.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 7:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Banks dont control our utilities do thay?
Scarecrow

 
At August 27, 2008 at 7:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was over 2 1/2 years ago

 
At August 27, 2008 at 7:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i sure am glad i'm a friend of terms.i would't want to get on his bad side. THANKS TERM FOR THE INFO, NOW WE KNOW WHY PAINESVILLE HAS 5000 ILLEGIALS.!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At August 27, 2008 at 8:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems that this happen a while ago. I hadn't heard about this but am shocked at seeing something like this was ever said on TV. But for anyone saying he/she is a Painesville City Council person and to make statements on national TV like this is either just looking for publicity or is actually speaking for city council.

This interview is clearly about ILLEGAL Immigration and for her to say Painesville welcomes them and that the city/county recognizes the Mexican Matricula Consular ID surely not interested in what is best for our city/county. I heard that the Lake County Commissioners passed a resolution to recognize this fake ID, too. This can't ask don't care policy is going just a little to far in my opinion. I am eighth generation Ohioan and I have to show valid ID for almost everything I do so why is Painesville saying basically we don't care if you have a valid ID or not. This is fraud.

Maybe Hal is going in the right direction.

Maybe it is time to get more new council people.

Maybe it is time we get new commissioners too.

This Grassroots group might have a good point. Expecting everyone to have proper ID and obey the law isn't to much to ask or being a racist. It's doing what's best economically and legally for your constituents.

Time for people to wake up and get involved in the upcoming election and the next city council election. People, start doing your homework and asking questions.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 8:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of things have happend becuse of this everyone needs to hear all of it.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is old news and there was a lot said about it back then.
Remember folks Term. is John Murphy's manager for his run at council, you will be seeing a lot of stuff about the council people in the future.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever TERM's motive, this interview still took place and Painesville residena have a right to see what one of their council persons is promoting. This affects all of us. Just because this interview took place 2 years ago it still set the pace for how things are going today. Shame on you Abby! Good post, Badger!

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true that illegals are eligible for the LCCDC grants provided by our government to purchase homes? And isn't one of our councilmen on the payroll of LCCDC. I can see why that councilperson would want the illegals here.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one on council want illegals here, like the other post said Term is running John's bid for council.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:54 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen one house in Painesville's LCCDC by Newel Street with a garage full of cots. Hummmm, wonder what's going on in there. Who makes their own family sleep in the garage?

Can you even buy a house from LCCDC and then rent it out to others? Our tax money at work again. Aren't federal grants involved here?

If Mr. Fountain ever came to council meetings, he could clear this up. Wishful thinking.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 3:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terms running John Murphys campaign for council? Lost cause. So he gets Abbey to make statements like this on National T.V.? This has nothing to do with anyone but the people on council. Thanks for the info

 
At August 28, 2008 at 3:25 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! What was council thinking. What is Mrs. Delamotte Painesvilles Welcome Wagon, I've always blamed Fr. Steve.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 3:34 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This woman has no right setting policy like this. She has no business being on council period. What is LCCDC whats there deal with the city.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 4:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, this is old news.

But guess what, it happened before John Murphy ran for city council. What has this interview have to do with Murphy or Term. A city council member said this on TV. Term just want answers.

Guess what. So do I. As Badger said, maybe it is time for a change.

Has anyone filed to run for city council yet? Hope Batman has an ID. All I can say is, John is using his real name. What's up with you Batman. I want to know WHO I will vote for, not someone who won't even use his own name. We have a long time to go before the election.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 4:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

John has not used his name on this blog.
And Abby did not set the policy of banks loaning money to illegials with just there Mex. ID the banks did, they did this to make money and it is being done all over the USA, that was the story but Abby went and said the other stuff, that was so off base she must have felt dumb.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 5:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish we could see the whole interview before they did there edit, you could tell from her first answer it had been edited, I have been interviwed by TV people and they made it sound like I said something else.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 5:35 AM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

First of all; this is a NATIONAL Show, not local but NATIONAL. This was broadcast not just in Ohio but across the nation.

Her first sentence; "the community welcomes and embraces..." is ridiculous! Wow!

I really don't think Mr Murphy has anything to do with this one folks, this is about accountability for what comes out of your mouth in a public forum.

MP

 
At August 28, 2008 at 7:29 AM , Blogger Big John said...

FOX is so reputable...yeah right! They are after the sensational story and I am sure that it was edited as well.

I have said it before guys..."they are here, get used to it". If this problem was bad enough for the Federal government to care don't you think that they would actually deport someone once in a while. Don't you think that there is enough money for a big fence at the border? The feds don't care truly and we here are left to pick up the pieces. At least this County, not just P'ville, is profiting from a problem that has and will exist here. Gee, lets spend 10 million dollars trying to get people out, who will only change their name and come back, wasted money as far as I am concerned and the figure was made up. But, lets take their money that they earn and make our town look nicer in the process, yeah that sounds foolish...NOT!

You guys miss the big picture here, the USA is going to let all of the Mexicans come here and then we are going to take over Mexico and have a great vacation place. We are enlisting all of the illegals and will promise them citizenship if they fight for us. Maybe it's true, maybe not.

Tomorrow is Friday and I am looking for a unique lunch idea if anyone can help. JT

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lake Erie College after 12:30 Pm is open to the public for lunch, and I think after 6 pm for supper.

Not bad for the money and fun too.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:22 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Maybe Hal is going in the right direction.”
What direction is that? What is he doing besides expressing an opinion? I think all they can do is cooperate with the federal people, but my gripe is with the federal people themselves. Why have they been absent?

“Time for people to wake up and get involved in the upcoming election and the next city council election. People, start doing your homework and asking questions.”
I would say get involved with the next presidential election. By all means get involved with the next city council election but we have a big one in a couple months for the real policy makers. It is a federal issue after all.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:29 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

“John is using his real name.”
I don't care if he uses a different name. By all means do it. We aren't exactly in election season and some people might listen to him and agree with him where they might not if they new his name because of the bad things being said. Then reveal yourself later and people will say oh it has been him all along he is really a good guy, I agree with him. Get them to stick to the ideas and vote for the ideas in the next election.

“We have a long time to go before the election.”
This is probably the best observation. Lots of time to sort through these things and get to the issues that will be prevalent when the next race is being run. If Abbey runs this video should be seen.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:29 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

“I really don't think Mr. Murphy has anything to do with this one folks,”
I agree he doesn’t. This goes directly to Abbey’s accountability in the next election.

-NN

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

“At least this County, not just P'ville, is profiting from a problem that has and will exist here.”
True, if they are here we might as well let them help our local economy. I don’t care if you deport them later but as long as they are here and until you deport them, we might as well make money.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:47 AM , Blogger Big John said...

Finally someone that seems to have a head on their shoulders. Sure we could battle all day long about how to get the illegals out, but what good would that do. Do you think that Painesville, Ohio is going to change the nation, nope! So by saying that we are o biding with the Federal Government in the respect that we will assist with deportations when they are doing them, but, in the mean time, here, let me take your money sir. Hell, the way I see it is like making the prisoner pay for his jail cell, gee whiz no own has been moaning about that one. Too many ex-cons out there eh?? Reading and Laughing.

Thanks for the tip about the college food fair, I have heard it is good and may give it a try. Most likely however I will be going to Senoirs' for the big steak burrito, in appreciation for this topic. Go ahead and laugh, it was meant to be funny...but I am getting the burrito. JT

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:10 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

thank god they are sneaking in to work and not planning on blowing up city hall or the trade towers.

the gran fiesta is coming to veterans park soon. see below from the city's version of "whats happening painesville"

Food, music, entertainment,
crafts, dancing, and much
more are at this year’s 3rd
Annual Gran Fiesta. Join
you neighbors and friends to
celebrate and create awareness
of the Hispanic culture.
Everyone is welcome to sample
food, learn traditional
and contemporary Latino
dances, and enjoy the local
and international entertainment.
Date: September 13th
Time: 12:00 p.m. -11:00 p.m.
Location: Veteran’s Park
in Downtown Painesville

cant wait to see term doing the
cha-cha

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:11 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

after watching the Olympics I am taking up Tai Chi and not too worried about Mexico.......

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM , Blogger Big John said...

Thanks for the comment about sneaking in the country to work, you are right! How terrible a thing to sneak in to work eh? See you at the Grande Fiesta...JT

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone asked what a council person could do to help illegal law breakers. Without passing judgement. Ask yourself if you were an illegal in a Motel 6 in Arizona watching this news show, where would you go?>>

That question applies to every community in the nation. Illegal immigration is a federal problem, to fix!

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly this site is like watching a train wreck.......
you don't want to look but can't stop.......
and then you just walk away and scratch you head.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maggie Laughlin sobbed in court during her sentencing Wednesday as she apologized for having a sexual relationship with one of her students at Shore Junior High School in Mentor.
The 23-year-old was sentenced to three years in prison for her actions.


Judge Paul H. Mitrovich is retiring and I say good riddance! The sentence is outrageous!

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

soon we will have term in council, obama in the big house and everything we be lovely. it will be so good the children won't even fight or cry. we'll light candles for the innocent prisoners on death row. we will open up our homes to the homeless and quit eating little animals. everything will be at peace

talk about a train wreck...

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM , Blogger Big John said...

Above poster, which direction do you mean outrageous, too soft or too harsh a sentence?

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

no wonder we have 5000 intruders in painesville most people on blog seem's to be waiting for the federal goverment. LET'S TAKE CARE OF WHERE WE LIVE SOONER NOT LATER.. even abby is waiting.. IMPEACH change city council then and only then the city will INPROVE. THE TIME IS NOW NOT LATER... city hall employee 1.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"most people on blog seem's to be waiting for the federal goverment."
You don't really know how government works. Immigration is a federal government issue. What can the city do? Please answer so I can then tell you how you are wrong.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:29 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

DON'T WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO CLEAN YOUR HOME. DO IT YOUR SELF ABBY YOU ARE ONE OF THE FOUR CONTROLER'S ON CITY COUNCIL. all of you are a disservice to THE CITY..

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

you don't see the intruder'a blocking the sidewalk at the mexico supermarket DO YOU thank's to the federal goverment the intruder's are not dining all over the sidewalk. THANK'S ICE..

 
At August 28, 2008 at 11:49 AM , Blogger Big John said...

Train wreck!!! Taste of Painesville is coming folks get ready for it. Some good eating at your doorsteps and I for one and looking for some meat on a stick. I am bowing out of this one as the temperature is getting hotter by the second. See you in another post. Really thinking of starting my own blog for positive thinkers that want to know whats going on in the Ville and how to make it better. JT

 
At August 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"DON'T WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO CLEAN YOUR HOME. DO IT YOUR SELF"

ok here was the question... you ready .... WHAT CAN THE CITY DO???
How can you do it yourself?

 
At August 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"you don't see the intruder'a blocking the sidewalk at the mexico supermarket DO YOU thank's to the federal goverment the intruder's are not dining all over the sidewalk."

As intelligent and well spoken as this post was, I still don't get it. Intruders? Who are you talking about? Are you talking about the people you see that appear to be hispanic so you assumed they were "intruders"?

Please explain this post with a few more words and then we can talk.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so we see where abby is on this, but what can all of council do? As a group of 7 voting, or maybe 6-1 if abby opposes it, what can they vote to do that would solve this problem?

 
At August 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off I am not John Murphys Campaign Manager. John is his own, and he will not accept contibutions to run for City Council. That being said I consider John one of my best friends and if he asked me to knock on doors, deliver signs ect. I would do anything to help him get elected. I don't even think John would want me around when he runs. The last election different people came up to him with information about Mr. Fountain. I advised John to introduce himself to people and talk about his issues and views of Painesville. Keep things above board, its a city election. Next thing I know Dale Fellows and the Republican Party starts doing phone bank calls in Ward 3? Its a non-partisan position. Saturday before the election a flyer comes out saying thing like Murphy wants to raise Council salary to $20,000 a year. Even if John wanted to do this ,its an near impossible to do. He's new to the city ect. This from a Councilman I have always respected. John laughed and said "I'm glad you know how to do this stuff" Why did I bring up contributions? When I wanted to donate to his campaign he told me to take that money and give it to a shelter, or a church. I have taken his advise.
Please do not view this as an attack on Mrs. DelaMotte, but people need to know why things are like they are here in the 'Ville.
Wait until you see the Council people Thank illegals for coming here to Painesville. it happened at a council meeting.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 2:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Judge Paul H. Mitrovich is retiring and I say good riddance! The sentence is outrageous!

Too Harsh!

 
At August 28, 2008 at 3:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How would you feel if this was a 23 year old male teacher and a 14 year old girl?
Someone commented Where were these Teachers when I was going to school?
Guess?

 
At August 28, 2008 at 3:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How would you feel if this was a 23 year old male teacher and a 14 year old girl?
--------------------------
Different circumstance!

 
At August 28, 2008 at 3:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Murphy is planning to run for council. He's not hiding the fact. He is getting his campaign started but has not filed yet.

Now, WHO is going to run as Term, Batman, MadPotter, etc. These are just blog signatures. Some people know who some of these people are and maybe most don't. If you don't like John, fine, don't vote for him. At least he and Term are using their own names and will stand behind what they say. The rest are hiding behind anonymous or some blog name. What are you hiding from or afraid of if you can't post your own name. If you plan to run for council, why hide?

Term says he will not run for council. There is also a thing called dirty politics. It is easy to play this game here because there is no way to know for sure who posts what. You can sign any name or just use anonymous. Also, people seem to THINK they know who makes each post. I don't think so. Saying someone said something that you have no way of confirming is just as bad as posting using someone else's name.

You can agree or disagree with Term and John, but at least you know who they are. So far, they seem to be the only ones willing to use their own name.

Abby can not deny she said what she said and must be considered in the next council election. Just as Horvath's letter to Senator DeWine in the last election. He signed it and was on a Painesville letterhead and later admitted Veronica Dalhberg actually wrote the letter. Another reason to ask questions.

I will continue to use my screen name since I have no political ambitions but just want to keep up with what happens in Painesville.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 4:34 PM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

Hey Badger,
I for one would not even entertain the thought of running for council. It would mean giving up so many things near and dear to my heart and I am not ready to do that. I do not want my phone number & email posted on the city website for every resident to call if they had problems. Usually I would tell folks the city is not going to solve your problem so best to get busy. I have very little tolerance for much complaining. Same with school...... oh your kid is failing well maybe you should go to school...... see it just wouldn't be good for anybody. Especially the dog....... he likes me here.

I started out with best of intentions to get involved with this city. I volunteered and just found the government moves so damn slow I would be dead before I would see any changes. My business sure doesn't work like the city does. Somebody needs a dinner set; I'm on it! Somebody needs a sewer line, we table it 3 times and then think about it until it's an emergency.
My income is needed by my family and the salary of council would not cover my losses as a business.
I vote, I occasionally show up for council meetings, usually in the winter, and I am concerned about issues confronting the schools and the city.
Every thing I seem to be concerned with, the city is not.......... Jeeze I have enough boulders to push up a hill without tackling city issues.
Also after seeing some of the posts on this blog why would anyone run? Just strap a target to your butt.
Bottom line I am a potter and gardener..... Period.
The world needs another politician like I need another woodchuck in my yard.
MP

 
At August 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

Oh and Badger...... truth be told I only know Term and find him to be one stand up Dude who is deeply concerned about the city, the schools, and the government.
He has roots here and his family is here.

My kids have both moved away and their happiest day was the day they moved on. If my kids were here or returning I might be a bit more passionate.......... nahhh.
MP.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Badger,
John Murphy, has not used his nome on this blog, and he has started his run, I saw his face on a sign on a car today, just what we need to see for months.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was John Murphy suppost to have lied about?

 
At August 28, 2008 at 6:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never meant to say anyone should run for council. I am just repeating what some are saying in this blog. "This person or that person for city council". I did say that John is the only one who is saying he wants to run. I also support Term for running this blog. It is a thankless job and a lot of work. Probably more work than some council people put in. I know he has lived he most of his life. And if you really take time to listen, you will find he cares a lot about the city. So far, I like Mr. Murphy because he says it like it is. Like him or not, at least so far you know where he stands. Not many politicians do that. I still have a lot of time to make up my mind on who to vote for.

Sorry if I offended some of the bloggers I mentioned. Was not my intention.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 7:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those of you that want a "Positive Blog. go ahead I would like to read about all the good things that happen in town. So is this a "Negative" Blog.? not by design. I truly believe that there are so many outlets and places to get the positive stuff, but not where to get the facts. The goal here is to have a place to air ideas, grievances, and to get facts, to other citizens in town. Not gossip! "FACTS". This is your town and for to long people have thrown their hands up and said whats the use. Painesville has a wealth of good people doing good things for everyone in town. PCIC is one of the organizations I'm taking about. But There is a small group of people here that think its their way or the highway. We as a community cannot lose anymore of the next generation like MP children, we have to have a reason better than Mom and Dad are here.
Tonight I was at a new school ,we can all be proud of what were trying to do to give the young ones in town a good start in life. I will always try to keep "facts" the important goal here. If you don't want to see or read them feel free to go somewhere else for information. Oh jt its good you think of other things besides food.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 8:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, I agree on this.

Gossip is usually only positive or negative.

BUT, Facts are Facts.

Our skools didn't score good. ;>)

Our businesses are leaving with their money ---------->$ Cha-Ching

Our past and present council persons are welcoming and embracing illegal immigration.

At the same time we are chasing the homeless from the city. We have multiple people living in the same house but just let one homeless person come to the city and he or she is asked to leave or be cited.

We are arguing over a mayor or city manager while at the same time hiring an assistant for the city manager.

We seem to think a nature preserve is better than a park like Masons landing. The Metro Parks seem to keep that park very nice and it floods just about every year.

Why would our young people want to stay here? What are we doing to keep our youth here and attract more businesses to relocate here.

One positive thing I can see is the way Lake Erie College is growing. Let's hope the new sports bar is a success. This may be just a start. How about this being something positive to build on.

Also, people are already talking about the next city council election. This is what the whole political system is suppose to be like. Voters actually being informed voters.

Let's stop arguing and come up with some more good ideas to bring some good old American pride back to Painesville.

Term, again you did your job. You got me thinking and I think a few more did too. Thanks

 
At August 28, 2008 at 9:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, I figured out why the light are or were on all the time at the school. The illegal watching Abby's interview on TV in Arizona also saw the Motel 6 ad on TV.

"we’ll leave the light on for ya"

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 28, 2008 at 10:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Potty mouth!

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 29, 2008 at 4:10 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason Murphy was attacked was the gang of 5 didnt want change. Now its only the gang of 4. Why do they want to keep power to themselves?
Scarecrow

 
At August 29, 2008 at 5:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Our past and present council persons are welcoming and embracing illegal immigration.” I have only seen abby, and I will do what I can so that she does not get re-elected.

“We seem to think a nature preserve is better than a park like Masons landing. The Metro Parks seem to keep that park very nice and it floods just about every year.”
So we should NOT have helped those residents who had everything destroyed? Plus we are helping cute fuzzy animals.

“Let's hope the new sports bar is a success.” When does it open? I’ll help make it a success. See you there.

“The reason Murphy was attacked was…” He ran for election. If his opponent can’t put on a campaign against him then you need to rethink how this democracy works. He ran for election and lost, oh well. I wish him the best of luck in the next election. We don’t need to cry foul, let’s just learn from it and move forward. Now to get back on topic, Murphy, Term, whomever – What would Murphy do about the illegal immigration problem?

Don't mean to single him out for this question, anyone can answer, only name you two because you are candidate and campaign manager and as a candidate I put more meat in what you say because you provide me with a voting opportunity.

 
At August 29, 2008 at 7:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you see our council mtg. if John Murphy is in there,
JM-I just think
AB-Mr Joe bla,bla
AF-These pictures
HW-yes I have a comment

 
At August 29, 2008 at 8:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for all the positive (and accurate) posts about John Murphy and Angelo. Chances are the vehicle you saw with John's name on it was his; and Term's love for Painesville and his involvement with the city is something handed down from his parents. Term's mom, by the way, was was a LEGAL immigrant and naturalized citizen and his dad was the first in his family born in the US. It is time for a change in City Council; the people that have been there forever have lost touch with the local citizenry and whether intended or not, they portray a rather arrogant attitude toward those citizens that ask the hard questions. I have been in retail most of my working career and was always told that the customer is the source of your paycheck. We taxpayers are the customers and I do not believe we are getting the leadership that we are paying for. Every vote counts! (didn't Florida teach us that TWICE) An informed active citizenry is our best defence.

 
At August 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

change can be good, but vote for someone that has a good head on their shoulders and are successful in their life.

also be careful what you wish/vote for, it just might happen. you might not like rita but she gets things done. i would not trust the judgement of some of council. i think a couple of them have problemns finding their way home.

i recall a prior post about looking to the left "priceless"

 
At August 29, 2008 at 1:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone keeps saying they are not getting the council they are paying for and they need change but what change? What would you do differently? Not just what is bad about the current council or city manager but what would you actually do? Give me something to work with so I can get behind you. You get accused of only being complainers all the time so prove your accusers wrong. Ok you are pushing Murphy but what is on his agenda?

 
At August 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

I know nobody wants to hear my song and dance anymore but I do wish council would look at making this city green. I read their "stuff" in the Painesville Pride and they need to do more.
I have sent emails out to council and all I get is .... We're looking into it.
I am on my way to a green meeting in Cleveland......... there is nothing out here.
Thank goodness for the Morley library.

I also like the Township newsletter better than what I get from the city of Painesville. The township newsletter is one page, front and back full of good information. Easy to read and easy to post on the fridge. City has made it too complicated.

How many Hispanics will you see at Taste of Painesville? How many non Hispanics will you see and the Grande Fiesta......
this is not racist I just don't think two separate "parties" is the way to bring a community together.
I will probably attend both and take a head count.
MP

 
At August 29, 2008 at 1:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

MP, They dont want to go to taste of Painesville...Thats American, Polish, French, German,Italian,They lump it all together. When will you all realize they want there own culture, and for you to conform. They want to drive $35,000 SUV's then play dumb at the emergency room. Ask somone who works there, or go watch. Was I the only one who read in the Newspaper about an ICE raid that nabbed 600 illegals at one factory the Legal workers all clapped. I have called ICE about Extrudex in Painesville Hope they do a sweep in early September. Before you remove this at least go look. Take that Manager with you to explain it, my cousin got laidoff because she expected overtime after 40 hours. Thats another Federal law that seems to not be enforced there.
P.O.I.P.

 
At August 29, 2008 at 8:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 29, 2008 at 8:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder who the Painesville Police were chasing down Mentor Ave. by Walnut St.? Who's driveway did they chase the vehicle into?
3 guesses

 
At August 29, 2008 at 8:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont like or dislike the City Manager, but just what things has she got done.
Dont tell me Gristmill/Millstone the jurys still out. 12 years what has got done that has been good for us?

 
At August 29, 2008 at 8:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, I have some good information to tell you that would make for a good subject on this blog. I'll leave my number for you at a place I'm sure you'll be, or leave yours if you are up there this weekend.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 7:05 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think that nothing can be done locally about illegal immigration, then look at Arizona. That state has taken it upon themselves to pass legislation to enforce immigration laws. They have laws to punish employers of illegal aliens. And guess what? The illegals are fleeing Arizona and heading to other states, including Ohio. Yes, we can take action. And we must take action. It is crap that the illegals are helping our economy. Just look at the cost to us for all their medical care, educating their children, higher insurance rates, etc. Please, open your eyes.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 9:06 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 30, 2008 at 12:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anonymous who said

“We seem to think a nature preserve is better than a park like Masons landing. The Metro Parks seem to keep that park very nice and it floods just about every year.”
So we should NOT have helped those residents who had everything destroyed? Plus we are helping cute fuzzy animals.

Who said anything about NOT helping the residents? When that is over and done, the land will still be there. So we can't share the land with the cute fuzzy aninmals??? Just because Mason's Landing is a park, doesn't mean the local animals don't use it. The way it is now, nothing can be done on it. If only the animals live there is one thing, but if people try to engage in illegal drug activity or other such things, then we just have something else to contend with.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 2:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, can you post Councilmans Horvaths Ltter? What did he promise.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder if there a Police Report on that inccident on Mentor Ave. Bet not. Now the Police will have something to sweep under that rug the City picked up there last year.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 7:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 30, 2008 at 7:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 30, 2008 at 7:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok, I looked it up. 616 mentor avenue is where one of our councilwomen lives. So what was the deal? Is she going to get off because of who she is? I am very curious about this now. What did she or a member of her family do? Whatever started it, eluding police should add to the charges. Let us know.

 
At August 31, 2008 at 8:58 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

rita is in charge of the POLICE DEPT TOTALLY. she decides when report's are written.......... so ask at tuesday council meeting. NO MEETING MONDAY BECAUSE OF LABOR DAY HOLIDAY. VIOIZVPT

 
At August 31, 2008 at 8:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At September 1, 2008 at 5:48 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

All anyone knows a car was followed into a driveway by the Police. Thats all anyone knows at this time ,and please leave the speculation to yourself. If a car pulls into your driveway so what? Facts please.

 
At September 1, 2008 at 7:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The most interesting part of this Blog. is that alot of you who post here seem to beleive Illegal Immigration is a problem here in Painesville. The City puts out a "Comprehensive Plan" every 10 years, I read thru it last night and guess what? Not one word about Illegal Immigration. Now either you people are making a mountain out of a ant hill, or that Comprehensive Committee had their heads in the sand. What good is this plan if it does not address a big issue like this. Also I remember a survey the City put out and I don't think it was mention there either. Homeless People, were mentioned, why not illegals? What is City Hall's agenda?
KAREN

 
At September 1, 2008 at 8:16 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the comprehensive plan stuck to what the city has the power to control. If you want it on the agenda I will repeat the same question that has been repeated many times above, What would you do? What action would you take?

You keep saying lets do something but you give nothing to do. Someone needs to be a leader, not just a complainer. Werner ran on this platform, does he have a plan?

 
At September 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

why was that last deleted post deleted?

 
At September 1, 2008 at 10:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To much "ASSUMING" with peoples names.

 
At September 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At September 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont know who was chased? Some of you seem to expect the worse. Get the Police Report and post. I guess how people know this stuff is there are more police scanners in town that I ever dreamed.

 
At September 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At September 1, 2008 at 7:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Sorry don't mean to repeat, just thought it was the new cool thing.

 
At September 1, 2008 at 10:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At September 2, 2008 at 2:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, he zapped one of mine away on the new site subject.

 
At September 2, 2008 at 5:22 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At September 3, 2008 at 6:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I did was go to the Police Station and ask, that was tough. And over all the speculation I found that they pulled a guy over for expired plates, Oh the horror! And I love the way that the police "Swept it under the carpet", do you want to know how? They gave him a ticket and a court date. This town is going to hell, I just can't believe how terrible the police are and all the cover ups. And by the way, he had no relation to the people at the house where he decided to pull off the road. This took me two minutes and the people at the station were very nice to me.

GROW UP LOSERS, ASK QUESTION'S GET ANSWERS!

 
At September 3, 2008 at 6:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We knew it was not Abby, we just wanted TERM. to see how stupid it is, when he puts his views on here,
if he cared about anything he would check this stuff out a little before he does, but we know he was just trying to dis. people he hates.
If it was me I would go after him, I hope Abby does, it would make for good posting.

 
At September 3, 2008 at 11:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

HA

 
At September 3, 2008 at 11:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term - Why are you deleting your own posts?
Then why delete the post that points out that you deleted your own post and restates what you said?

"I saw it."

 
At September 3, 2008 at 11:41 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

she is a public official that lives on a the main drag
freedom of the press is a wonderful thing.......
if ya see a police car with lights on in a councilmans driveway I think it's ok to post it on the blog.....
lots of eyes and ears here......

it's not the news herald it's the blog feel free to go to the feel good blog if it gets you knotted up.
take a pill and chill
it's p'vll not capital hill

 
At September 3, 2008 at 12:58 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it ok to post that the council person themself was arrested then released and it was swept under the rug if it is not true?

 
At September 3, 2008 at 2:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to disapoint some of you,the only part of this post I had anything to do with was removing posts that weren't proven. I'm glad Abbey and her family had nothing to do with this. To the poster who said he knew it wasn't her, why didn't you post that fact? The only "fact" was that the Police chased a car into her driveway.Some of you were so upset I was deleting posts, make up your minds please. jt has a wonderful site, or please feel free to start your own. If a post gets deleted after one has been posted I leave it so peole know I deleted something. I can delete that way or Delte a post as if it never exsisted. To prove this I will delete the post "I say it" as if it never was here. I am doing everything to keep false information and profanity off this site.

 
At September 4, 2008 at 5:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've known you can do it, I think it is helps the blog's credibility to show the post was deleted. The question was why you deleted your own post.
Is this an admission you are putting up false information if you say you deleted it because it was "not proven"?
Why did you post it in the first place?
I get the feeling it was sarcastic and not so much malicious. If it was then ok, at worst it was a bad joke. No big deal.

 
At September 4, 2008 at 5:47 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am doing everything to keep false information and profanity off this site."

Then why did you post false information in the first place?

I congratulate you for removing it though.

 
At September 4, 2008 at 5:53 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

what false information are you referring too?
cause I read throgh the blog and can't see any.

 
At September 4, 2008 at 6:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course you aren't going to see it now. It was deleted.

 
At September 4, 2008 at 6:06 AM , Blogger Big John said...

Wow, been a while since you guys heard from me huh? I have been reading, just too hot in here sometimes. I am glad to see that this was resolved but I will say to the poster that discovered the facts, did you have to call everyone losers? Just because they voice opinions does not make them losers.

I agree with free speech and TERM does a good job editing his site, it is hard to keep up with and mine in small. I agree with deleting but leaving to show it was deleted. Proves that TERM is there and paying attention. Who want to blog if they are just responding and no one is paying attention right?

Anyways, I hope that all are doing well and hope to see a good turn out at "Taste of Painesville" tonight, starts at 5pm. JT

 
At September 7, 2008 at 10:10 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

after viewing the fox-8 viedo I AM UNDERSTANDING WHY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL'S ARE NOT ENFORCEING THE CITY LAW'S follow the 458 north state street story FOR THE CURRENT EXAMPLE. painesville resident's better pay attention. city hall employee [ 1 ].

 

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