Monday, August 18, 2008

THIS-AND-THAT

Has anyone else seen the School Bus running around town labeled "Texas Migrant Council" I know we have open enrollment, but Geez!
I think the pitbull ordinance went the way of the bedsheet ordinance. Be careful out there MP.
Whats with all the SUV's with chrome fames for grills? and the 3 little teardrop portholes on the front fenders?
I dont seem to understand this Hannah Montana Miley Cirus love affair.
City Budget ...................................................80 million
City Manager...................................................$115,000
Joe Hada looking to his left at a council meeting..............PRICELESS
Does anyone remember Krogers Grocery on the square?
Fisher Foods where Model Bakery is on State St.
Last time you watched the movie "One Potato, Two Potato"?
Anyone else forsee the traffic jam at Jackson St. W. Eagle, Grant St. when school starts?
How early its getting dark?
Wonder how people that live around the schools no longer in use, will feel about the school year starting in silence?
"Party in the Park" being better than the Fair, Mardi Gras, ect.
Some gas station price of 3.69 agallon in the morning and 3.56 after 7;00p.m. in the evening 3 days in a row?
TERM>>

128 Comments:

At August 18, 2008 at 4:31 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes about the bus, they run pre-schools around the country they go where the migrant workers are working.
Just what we need Term., trying to understand Hannah Montana.

 
At August 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Hada looking to his left.....if we end up with one more council member like a Flock, Becks, or Warner I will be selling and moving out of this city.

I cannot believe you people think having idiots like those three is a good thing.

 
At August 18, 2008 at 7:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some gas station price of 3.69 agallon in the morning and 3.56 after 7;00p.m. in the evening 3 days in a row?
---------------------------------
And, without not one new oil well drilled. How did that happen, McCain?

 
At August 18, 2008 at 7:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andy's not to bad, but Beck's and Warner are worthless.

 
At August 18, 2008 at 7:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joseph M. Gurley the Law Director, gives me the impression, that he is in charge. I've seen him several times shouting people down. What gives him that right?

 
At August 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who pays for these pre-schools? Whats wrong with our pre-schools?
TERM>>

 
At August 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our government is funding these busses and pre-schools. Millions of dollars each year. Why isn't mexico paying for this?

 
At August 19, 2008 at 5:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I finally sold my house in Painesville yesterday, so I feel I can't really comment on here anymore. It's been fun reading everything, but boy am I glad I'm out of the ville. Have fun everyone. Adios!

 
At August 19, 2008 at 6:03 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's "goodbye"! Speak English!

 
At August 19, 2008 at 8:48 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No se?

 
At August 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

good riddance!

 
At August 19, 2008 at 10:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys get so bent out of shape over hispanics, it is comical. I sold my house to two hispanics.

 
At August 19, 2008 at 10:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see Painesville on 19 action news, 3 black guys, beat up 1 hispanic, now he can't work and send money to his wife and 5 kids in Mex.

 
At August 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a town. 3 black guys beat up a mexican, 5 kids starve in Mexico, and 20 rightous whites just bitch about it on a blog. LOL

 
At August 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will Harvey ever beat Riverside in Football again?

 
At August 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No. It's been what about 15 years?

 
At August 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see that 2 Mexicans tried to pick-up a policewoman on Kerr Ave. and the police were surprised! A woman White or Black can no longer walk the streets of Painesville without getting propositioned by a Mexican in a Van. Sorry its their culture.
KAREN

 
At August 19, 2008 at 8:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen I think the KKK is recruiting. I sent them your info.

 
At August 19, 2008 at 9:44 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trust me, we all have Karen's info. thanks to Term.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 3:32 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, can't take credit. Page 2 News-Herald Tuesday.
I think what Karen was refering to in Mexico City they run two different buses one for just Females becauce woman complained that they were being Groped when they rode public transportation. I think Karen must have had to put up with some of this and that might be why shes angry. can't blame her.
TERM>>

 
At August 20, 2008 at 3:34 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harvey -Riverside? This might just be the year.
Harvey seems to have alot of speed.
TERM>>

 
At August 20, 2008 at 4:45 AM , Blogger Rachael M. said...

anybody watch channel 12 last night??????????

I guess I need to start showing up at council if I ever want to hear what is going on in this city.
MP

 
At August 20, 2008 at 5:24 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is attributing the acts of a few people to their entire culture. Don't try to stick up for her, she said what she said. If you want to maintain any credibility you probably shouldn't associate with people like that. Regardless of how much we don't want it to a person's choice of associates does reflect upon them.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone must remind all council to adjust there mics. this is un called for and they should be made to do a voice over so we can hear what was going on.
This must be stoped.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 9:32 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't deny facts, and the fact is that a woman cannot walk through the streets of Painesville any more without being harassed by mexicans. Karen is right.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 9:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, they can read over the minutes and dub in there voices, this will teach them to adjust there microphones in the future.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 10:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You can't deny facts, and the fact is that a woman cannot walk through the streets of Painesville any more without being harassed by mexicans. Karen is right."

Karen did you write this just so it looks like more people are agreeing with you?

This is not a fact. Maybe that is the problem with this site. People don't know what facts really are. A fact is something that has actual existence or a piece of information presented as having objective reality.
A woman CAN walk the street in Painesville without getting "harassed by mexicans". People of other races may "harass" women as well as hispanics. Men have an equal propensity to "harass" women regardless of the color of their skin. Racism - a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. This claim is not in actual existence nor is it presented as having objective reality. The people who post things like this disgust me. I can only hope that by disclaiming and denouncing a statement like this may I be able to be distinguished from these people. The people who espouse her views or defend her or to some extent fail to renouce her views may want to consider the reflection her companionship has on them.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will the City adjust the traffic signals, so you don't have to wait (seems like) an eternity, to change?

 
At August 20, 2008 at 1:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not Karen, and it is a FACT that I, my daughters, and my women neighbors, CANNOT walk down the streets of Painesville without being harassed by mexicans. And we are not dressed as ladies of the night. Just ordinary mothers and daughters! That is a FACT in the Painesville I live in!

 
At August 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This site along with providing information gives people a forum to express what has happened to them. If your happy about all the illegals living here ,fine. Some people around town are having problems and the community should be made aware of them. White, Black, Hispanic.
TERM>>

 
At August 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This site along with providing information gives people a forum to express what has happened to them."
She didn't say me and my daughters. She said "a woman" and this is false a woman can walk down the street without getting harassed. My female neighbors do it all the time without harrassment. She by saying this implied all women. Maybe this was her mistake. It may be a fact that her and/or her daughters may have been harrassed. However her propensity to exaggerate forces me to doubt that EVERY time they go out they get harrassed. I just can't put much weight in her stories.
"If your happy about all the illegals living here ,fine."
Again there you go assuming they were all illegals. You are generalizing. You are assuming they were breaking the law because of the color of their skin or the language they spoke. This speaks volumes about you. I may post here and even agree with some of your ideas, but I refuse to assume something about someone based on the color of their skin.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 4:35 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You use the term "information" quite loosely.

 
At August 20, 2008 at 7:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You just hit the nail on the head. We dont know how many illegals are living here. How many people fleeing charges in Mexico.Child Sex Offenders,General Healthconditions No one knows. and if you ask your a racist. give me a break.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 5:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"if you ask your a racist" This is not true. You must not read and comprehend too well. Only when you ASSUME someone is illegal or partakes in a certain activity, in this case harrassment of women, BASED ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN or the language they speak. I don't care if you ask those questions, that is fine, may even be helpful, but don't tell me someone is not attributing the acts of a few people to everyone of that race when saying things like "CANNOT walk down the streets of Painesville without being harassed by mexicans" and Term's assumption that those mexicans were also illegal.

You, sir, should give us all a break.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 5:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term was the one that used the word "information" and used it loosely.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 11:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have several city ordiances lets all all council tell tell the city manager TO ENFORCE ALL ALL OF THEM. SKILLET...

 
At August 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE CITY COUNCIL IS HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING TODAY THUR.AUG 21 2008. ADEGENA TO AGREE AND SIGN A CONTRACT WITH CONCORD FOR THE TAXITION OF CERTAIN EMPLOYEES WORKING IN THE NEW JEDD DISTRICT NOTE THE EXECUTIVIES ARE NOT INCLUDED. NOT FAIR TAXIATION.. PLEASE ATTEND.. skillet...

 
At August 21, 2008 at 11:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Joint Economic Development District (JEDD) Agreement is just an attempt to raise the income taxes on workers in Concord Township. This is a back door initiative to eventually tax all the employees in Concord Township!

 
At August 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

great job ?????RITA AND HADA good luck conviencing city council on this tax process ... WILL BE WATCHING...

 
At August 21, 2008 at 11:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only reason for this (JEDD) Agreement is to tax the employees in the JEDD District area. Why is this a concern of the city of Painesville?

 
At August 21, 2008 at 11:53 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone in the city of Painesville talking in the Spanish language should have to prove they are a US citizen!

 
At August 21, 2008 at 2:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you must have the idea these are all my posts. I never used the word "racist" in any of my posts. I am not the only one posting here.I will not answer questions about make believe comic book character. Maybe Robin beat Batman in a game of "cornhole" I don't know.
I'm starting to believe alot of you live in a make believe world.
TERM>>

 
At August 21, 2008 at 2:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The JEDD agreement with Concord Twp. gives the Tonship thru an agreement with Painesville to collect income taxes. By State Law Townships are not allowed to collect income taxes. Painesville gets well rewarded for being the vehicle in this process. When Concord drew up the area it include the building where the exectives of Hospital worked, now this area has been penciled out.
The Nurses, Cleaning staff, cafeteria workers, Doctors, but not the big wigs. Joe and Rita will sell this to council tonight.
City Worker II.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 5:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term if you had an answer you would answer. copout.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 5:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my God. Joe and Rita are doing it. It must be awful for the city of Painesville. We should probably avoid it at all cost.

The JEDD is wonderful for Painesville. Once again you are assuming the worst. I hope you all oppose it, but please go public with your opposition so we know who you are for the next election.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 5:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anyone in the city of Painesville talking in the Spanish language should have to prove they are a US citizen!"

I agree round them all up and don't let them out til they prove it. Maybe Painesville's next construction project should be an internment camp.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 5:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term nobody said you used the word racist. But you did stick up for one. You assume all responses are to your posts. The post was in response to the one directly above it. I thought that was obvious, the post was even quoted. Sure it mentioned you but only in reference to an assumption you made or at least implied.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 6:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term. there you go again with your gay remarks about Batman & Robin,
Don't tell me you don't know what cornhole means ?

 
At August 21, 2008 at 7:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

When Concord drew up the area it include the building where the exectives of Hospital worked, now this area has been penciled out.
The Nurses, Cleaning staff, cafeteria workers, Doctors, but not the big wigs.>>

Is this true?

 
At August 21, 2008 at 7:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above "idiot" should have gone to the meeting at City Hall tonight. Someone who knows would have found out, "They don't Know".
The Hospital Administation Building was cut out of the JEDD agreement so those people working in that building will not be taxed. Only staff that works in the Hospital will be charged the JEDD tax. Please before you call people names get your facts. I am sure Concord or City Hall can verify this fact. This fact was also mentioned at the County Commissioners Meeting Thursday.
Talk about fair taxation?
TERM>>

 
At August 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My post was meant for the post second one up that started "you idiots". Sorry for any confusion.
TERM>>

 
At August 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of who is beig taxed, we should try and tax whoever we can because if not we will see no money. Last I checked doctors still make alot more than I do and have a higher average income than our tax base as it exists now. Before you go assumming wrongdoing, maybe you should find out why the one building is not included. Maybe there is a good reason. The only thing I see on this blog is that nobody knows enough to say anything of substance. Furthermore, whatever you do know you use to accuse the city manager or council of some devious acts or big conspiracy. You are the one that is in a make believe world. When you figure out the truth about why this happened the way it did and there is a good reason are you going to post it here? I doubt it, it might not reflect positively upon you.

 
At August 21, 2008 at 8:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand what you are implying. What is not fair about the taxation?

 
At August 22, 2008 at 2:08 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have not talked to anyone officially but I did study the JEDD quite a bit when it was first proposed and approved. Here are a few "facts".
1. The JEDD was already advertised for its public hearing and anyone it effects that doesn't like it should have spoken up at that time.
2. Written into the original document was the rights and procedure for either city or township to add or subtract property parcels with the others agreement. ....so this probably won't be the last change we see, as the area develops it will be adjusted.

Now, just some possible scenarios why it was changed.In the original agreement besides the wording for Painesville to supply water and electric (yes, for all you complainers, gee, the city is going to make money off this!)the original document also included wording that the city would conduct a feasibility study for extending the electric. In the final document that wording was eliminated and now both entities have voted to eliminate a parcel.

IS IT POSSIBLE? we need to ask more questions, but maybe it had nothing to do with the parcel being the hospital admin building but instead it might be it required too much cost, or required a substation, etc. and the feasibility study determined it would not work in the JEDD agreement for pricing structure.

In either case the residents of the city should be pleased because our council and administration by working to pass this have at least recouped a portion of what we will loose when the hospital leaves.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 2:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops again, I keep forgeting my signature, sign above BATMAN

 
At August 22, 2008 at 3:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Batman, look at the map as proposed and again as passed. I'm all for Painesville recouping lost tax dollars but why exclude the big fish? Fair? The City of Painesville is going to supply the Hospital with electricity? First Energy is going to say go ahead we welcome you to come in and steal this business from us. I hear attorneys briefcases clicking already. How can you on the same campus charge a Nurse this JEDD tax and an Administrator making $200,000 a pass? Justification, explain it to me please? Somes tax money better than None? If the Hospital Leaders thought this was a bad deal for them , why was it a good deal for their employees?
I'm really looking forward how this will be explained in the media.
TERM>>

 
At August 22, 2008 at 5:14 AM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

A note on salaries ...........

$115,000 a year and an assistant is a bit steep even in the corporate world. If this city were thriving and folks were standing in line to buy houses and open businesses I would not begrudge a 6 figure salary.

I suggest you drive around Painesville and open your eyes; I don't see much thriving here except the store selling; "For Rent" and "For Sale" signs.

I have watched the City Managers salary go up but a city go down. What happened to the days when you were awarded on merit not longevity.

I have been waiting 25 years for this town to "come around".
As my visiting brother-in-law said.......... the square looks nice but beyond the center of town it's dead. Kind of like putting lipstick on a prostitute....
This is an observation from a visitor who had never been here before, it was unsolicited. He is an investor in Boston.
MP

 
At August 22, 2008 at 5:39 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the wrongdoing is on the part of the hospital sticking their employees and not on the part of Painesville administration. Should we not do the JEDD because they are abusing their employees?

 
At August 22, 2008 at 9:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madpotter with her comments again, why don't you just move over a street and be done with this prostitute of a town.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 9:53 AM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

Anonymous, you must be sitting in an ivory tower up there at city hall.........

Hmmmm shall we count the businesses exiting, shall we count the for rent signs....... how about the for sale signs that are in the same places for months; no make that years.

Still no channel 12, still no composting facitlities and so it goes........
MP

 
At August 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madpotter,
I'm just a person like you, not someone at city hall, and if you think they would waste there time putting a post here about you, you are living in your own mind.

Yep a composting facitlitie would fix everything, you are so full of it, what a joke.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 10:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think many for sale signs are a reflection of the nationwide real estate market, not just Painesville. Some might be but to use this as a reflection on Painesville alone is misleading.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 11:06 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"First Energy is going to say go ahead we welcome you to come in and steal this business from us. I hear attorneys briefcases clicking already."

What are you talking about? Why does Frist Energy have a say in this? Why would they be able to sue? I don't see it maybe we should forego this JEDD altogether because someone might bring a frivolous lawsuit.

Keep fishing.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"$115,000 a year and an assistant is a bit steep even in the corporate world."
What corporate world do you live in? This is light. Thank God its not a business, have you seen CEO salaries these days?

"This is an observation from a visitor who had never been here before, it was unsolicited."
Spending his time in Painesville with you and even related to you and no doubt hearing your opinion on EVERYTHING. Sure it was unsolicited and unbiased and I'm sure he had differing points of view to pull from before making this statement. Riiiight.
Its like Fox news, you can say "fair and balanced" all you want but that does not make it true.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 12:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madpotter could take all the BS her, Term, and Karen spout and start a very nice composting pile.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 2:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder how her brother-in-law, knows what a prostitute looks like with or without lipstick.

After hearing how much MP dislikes Painesville, anyone would say it is bad.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 4:05 PM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

LOL you guys are sure filled with vinegar and spit today! Good on ya!

Let's see council hasn't had a raise in how long? but the City Manger has nice package......... maybe council won't give themselves a raise because they are afraid somebody else will run............

See ya in 2009 boys and girls.......

 
At August 22, 2008 at 4:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

City Manger works full time and then some.

Council works let's see around ?

They complain about haveing to read there packet over the weekend, the rest of the week they don't do any council work.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 5:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need money to motivate you to run for council? Caring about what happens in your community is not enough? I am sure some would do the job for free.

 
At August 22, 2008 at 7:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not Becks she want's more money, she asked for it as soon as she was voted in, she knew how much was made when she ran.

3 hours of council work per. week times 52 weeks = 156 hours
$ 7000.00 per year
156 hours in to 7000.00 = $45.00 @ hour

Some weeks more and some weeks less then 3 hours but that is about what they make.

If you make it 5 hours @ week it would be $27.00 @ hr.

Don't think they put in 5 hrs per week.

DO YOU ?

 
At August 22, 2008 at 7:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There you go Arlene, This person just gave you a $1000.00 raise. I guess you may have a valid point. Painesville Councilperson A. Becks makes $6000.00 a year along with 5 other ones.Council President makes a few bucks more but not much.
Arlene and the rest of you could make more money as school crossing guards.
TERM>>

 
At August 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK,
Well lets see change it to $ 6000.00 @ year
3 hours @ week
156 hours @ year

= $ 38.50 @ hr
(still not bad)

5 hours @ week = $ 24.00 hr
(I bet there are a lot of people that would like that)

She would make a good crossing gaurd

 
At August 23, 2008 at 7:58 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, who ever you are you have no credibility you start with numbers that are false and then you change them because someone gave you different numbers. Then you insult someone who spends time trying to do the right things.
Instead of hiding in anonymous and giving facts that dont make any sense.
KAREN

 
At August 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah like your name is Karen, oh wait your on the list, don't care what you say.

I don't think the first numbers were false, I think they were wrong, so they changed them to the right numbers.

And why do you think it was an insult, don't you think she would make a good crossing gaurd ?

 
At August 23, 2008 at 3:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The poster above Karen, may have solved all of our problems. They have stated the they think councilpeople only spend between 3 and 5 hours a week doing council business. Ask anyone of them how much time they spend on city business, and anyone that says "3 to 5 hours" we vote out. All councilpeople spend alot more time than that, at least I hope so, maybe some don't.
TERM>>

 
At August 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term,
You have to be kidding, right.
I bet not one of them will say they put in more hours then that.

 
At August 24, 2008 at 5:43 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should! theres the problem!
ROBIN

 
At August 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there are people who would spend whatever time is necessary and do it for free because they care about the city that much.

 
At August 24, 2008 at 12:31 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

buy a vowel and get a clue..........

 
At August 24, 2008 at 8:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

the administration must be worried about john murphy winning' because of the lies they told before and during the last election. SKILLET

 
At August 24, 2008 at 9:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Skillet,
Your just like greese in a skillet, you just pop up and say some anything.

No one is worried about John Murphy winning.

No one told any lies about him, he told lies, and those lies will be why he will not win.

Right John ?

 
At August 25, 2008 at 3:34 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one seemed to have been worried about Hal winning either, you have no idea how fed up some people are with some of the thing going on in the city. People shouldnt be so sure of the results next year.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 5:56 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody needs to lie to beat John Murphy. The truth is damaging enough.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 5:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the post above. in politics anything can and does happen. that is the nature of the beast. mr. murphy is a honest man and only wants to help the citizens of this city that we all call HOME.and i agreee. 09 will be a happening year. no one wants change. change is good if it is done right.i'm all for change if it helps the people in painesville.and we desparately need a change in our city council. RUTH

 
At August 25, 2008 at 6:27 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"mr. murphy is a honest man"
I have seen him lie. You can say this all you want, it does not make it true.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 7:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

you ever hear of slander, mr. anonymous?

 
At August 25, 2008 at 7:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

really? what was slanderous?
Assuming you know slander too, maybe you also know that the defense to slander is TRUTH.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 9:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly! I repeat, "you ever hear of slander"?

 
At August 25, 2008 at 1:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

ASK JOE HADA OR RITA OR FOUNTAIN AND KEVIN LYNCH about slander toward MR. JOHN MURPHY. SKILLET.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Skillet,
We were there,we have nothing to do with the city, and we saw what happend.
John Murphy lied about what happend.

Just wish we had the camera pointing that way.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

a camera would have been a good idea. THEN WE WOUID HAVE ALREADY RECALLED JOE HADA AND THE MAN YOU CAN TRUST HA HA. you could also do a INVESTAGATION councilman FLOCK asked for at three separate council meetings. HOWEVER,council doesn't want the truth to come out. why? CITY HALL EMPLOYEE.

 
At August 25, 2008 at 10:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We were there and we would love to be called in to court to tell what we saw, it would be the end to all of the lies that John Murphy has said, I think he might not remember what he did, he was acting weird ?

 
At August 26, 2008 at 5:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was he drunk?

 
At August 26, 2008 at 5:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Council would be happy if the truth came out. Murphy should not want it invstigated. He got his headline and he probably doesn't want another telling the electorate he is a liar.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 5:39 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

he brought his complaints against fountain and lost. he doesn't have a leg to stand on. or was that some big conspiracy too...

 
At August 26, 2008 at 11:03 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ATTENDED THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN MR. MURPHY ALONG WITH COUNCILMAN FLOCK ASKED FOR AN INVESTAGITON. HOWEVER THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH. THE SAD PART IS///THE FAMILY'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LUCILLE AVE ARE STILL WAITING FOR HELP. MURPHY ATTENDED AND ASK AGAIN AT THE LAST SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. CHECK CHANNEL 96 CURRENTLY. murphy rock's SKILLET.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 11:07 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ATTENDED THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN MR. MURPHY ALONG WITH COUNCILMAN FLOCK ASKED FOR AN INVESTAGITON. HOWEVER THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH. THE SAD PART IS///THE FAMILY'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LUCILLE AVE ARE STILL WAITING FOR HELP. MURPHY ATTENDED AND ASK AGAIN AT THE LAST SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. CHECK CHANNEL 96 CURRENTLY. murphy rock's SKILLET.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 11:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

SKILLET FOR COUNCIL......HE/SHE ALONG WITH THE LEFT WILL GET RID OF THE GYPSY'S. RECALL RECALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE RESIDENT'S CANNOT WAIT 16 MONTH'S [GET'ER DONE..] city employee 1.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

good post city employee 1 IT WORKED IN EASTLAKE OHIO. lake county election board will give guidance. CONCERN RESIDENT.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 11:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

this sound's like something GOOD for the city RESIDENT'S /BUSINESS'S recall good idea I WOULD DONATE THE ELECTION COST, [6,OOO.OO OR SO. BUFORDMGRTF

 
At August 26, 2008 at 12:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

they would get rid of the "gypsy's"? just how would they do that? Please tell me.

Recall really? For what? We have an election coming up soon anyway.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 12:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is going on on lucile?

 
At August 26, 2008 at 12:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am going to call my council people today and apologize for what my fellow residents are putting them through. You are an embarassment to my Painesville. They could be working on things to move the city forward and they have to deal with you three. Move along with your conspiracy theories. I am sure they have more important things to do other than shovel out the crap you are throwing around. I congratulate them for not letting you impede them.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so Murph, fill me in. Air it. What really happened? Give us the whole story - set us right oh righteous one

 
At August 26, 2008 at 2:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me if John had done something wrong he would have been arrested..... end of story end of his council run...

 
At August 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He could have been arrested but Rita did not press charges, lucky for him.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 3:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah I saw John Murphy on ch 96, he wants to waste around $ 10,000 of tax payers money to put up a fence behind there garages, I would love the schools to put a fence in my yard.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 4:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well he is running for council not school board right? So this shouldn't mean much to his race, but what garages are we talking about. I might agree with that. Maybe he should run for school board instead.
-NN

 
At August 26, 2008 at 4:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think he was accused of a crime, but it is possible to do something wrong that is not worthy of arrest. Depends on your standards of right and wrong. I personally think there is an overuse of the legal system but also an underappreciation for what is socially acceptable behavior, so maybe they go hand in hand.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 7:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why call them? just tell them a dinner tonight.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 9:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

NN,
You might agree to use around $ 10,000 of school money to put up a fence along the back of some grages on Lucille just becuse they don't like the way it looks.

 
At August 26, 2008 at 9:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He put his hand on someone, and maybe he was drinking.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 3:27 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at Lights on night in Painesville. I watch the altecation from about 30 feet away and to be truthful I know none of the people involved. It got loud ,the lady came over to see what the commotion was but no one touch anyone and the people just walked away. Alot todo abut nothing.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 5:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why call them? just tell them a dinner tonight."

?? Never been invited to dinner with a council member. Would be nice though I'd be willing to eat with any of the 7.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 5:53 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It got loud ,the lady came over to see what the commotion was but no one touch anyone and the people just walked away. Alot todo abut nothing."

There may be differing stories and I'm willing to listen to both sides with knowledge there may be 3 sides to every story as there often are. I ask though what it all was about though and what was being said when it got loud. Mostly I agree with "Alot todo abut nothing."

 
At August 27, 2008 at 6:03 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If guy above doesn't know the people he may be that important neutral party that provides that third side. That's a big "if" though.
-NN

 
At August 27, 2008 at 6:21 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I congratulate them for not letting you impede them."

Discussion and dissent are the hallmarks of progress.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:07 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He grabed her arm and turned her around, how did you did not see that ?

My wife and I did, and we did not know who they were then.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:28 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the case is closed then. Anonymous saw this event. Thank goodness someone impartial saw it happen. Thank you, anonymous. You have given us all we need to know. Now, tell us, who are you? Joe, maybe? Paul? Maybe even Rita? Let us know.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 9:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks as though we have two anonymouses who saw it. Both claiming to be impartial. This is getting fun.

-NN

 
At August 27, 2008 at 2:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

See, this is why a lot of citizens don't care for that little click of TERM, Karen, Murphy, etc., Honestly you people might be very well meaning, nice people but you complain and stir up crap that really means nothing in the bigger picture of trying to solve this cities problems.

What Murphy did means nothing, no one pressed charges, he lost the race honestly, it means nothing to the real problems of this city, DROP IT ALREADY!

 
At August 27, 2008 at 2:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love too drop it........... and will.

I watched Joe Hada squirm in his council chair when this came up at council. I lost respect for J. Hada when he said he was the one who signed out the affidavide against Murphy. And not that I would have voted for Murphy just think the whole thing was handled very poorly by Mr Hada and don't think I would trust anybody who sits up there.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 3:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your so called click didnt bring up the subject. Term, Karen, Murphy never asked.
Scarecrow

 
At August 27, 2008 at 3:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

all of this that is being metioned about mr. murphy at the event last summer, was mr. murphy was asking mr. fountain for some support for the people on lucille street you had their back yards taken away by the new school being built. he was speaking to mr, fountain, only, noone else. but, he had also talked to mr.hada, and mr. horvath and the school board previous to talking to mr. fountain, to try and get some help for the people on lucille ave. WE ARE ALL STILL WAITING, CHECK CHANNEL 96, MURPHY IS STILL TRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LUCILLE.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole thing with murphy came out after the election not during and at Murphy's prompting. I won't trust hada either if he lied at all. Maybe the truth should come out. But to be honest I have not been able to ascertain it from this blog. Murphy - What happened? Those who saw it - Can you give us a detailed account of it? What does Rita say about it?

 
At August 27, 2008 at 4:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree, it should be in the past. This next election should be about who can do the best for the city and that doesn't seem to be those in office. I think the focus should be on the land bought for 250,000 or other decisions that weigh on issues important to all of Painesville not just some personal thing between a couple people.

I agree with JT and admire his posts. Lets turn this thing back into the positive.

 
At August 27, 2008 at 7:46 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goto a Council Meeting and ask why that land was purchased, just maybe if they were questioned they would think more before they asked.$84,000 for an assistant? Whats that 2 more policemen? We realy have to start asking.

 
At August 28, 2008 at 10:01 AM , Blogger Big John said...

"I agree with JT and admire his posts. Lets turn this thing back into the positive"

Now that's a good post! Lets...

 

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