Saturday, June 11, 2011

'"BROTHER LOVES TRAVELING SAL.. neil diamond

Now comes the deception? Monday night, June 13, 2011, council will hold an open-to-the-public work session with the likes of the AMP-OHIO Brother Marc S. Gerkens traveling salvation show. Pack up the babies and grab the the old ladies...let everyone go....
Painesville will again learn the only way you can cook those turkeys on Thanksgiving... or not have to do homework by candle light... is to listen to this new sales pitch. How much did the old pitch cost... 2.7 million... 2 million? Hey, it's only dead presidents burning a hole in your pocket.
I remember at a previous meeting attended by Mr. Gerkens that councilman Flock asked "what if we never get power from Meigs County?" Mr. Gerkens treated that question as if Andy had asked what if the world was flat? Hindsight? I don't even believe that question was addressed seriously. It should have been.
We need props? Like a crystal ball so we can see 25, 35 years in the future as to our electric needs, and the people who can't even predict five years ahead about a Mega-Watt coal plant will bring us answers to these questions Monday night. Lest we forget all this is still going through litagation yet AMP-OHIO still knows Painesvilles "stranded" costs?

This blog. is read in places that I didn't think even cared. Some resident in Oberlin, Ohio sent me an ordinance from their May 16, 2011 council meeting about something called 'The Northern Power Pool Participation Schedule' with AMP-OHIO.
Seems 9 members are elected and one spot was appointed, want to guess who?
When will we in Painesville be informed of all this? Are any council people aware of this? What is it? Is someone getting paid by this?
Painesville has operated too long in the shadows... it's time we be transparent on ALL city business. Painesville's administration is like an onion... you must keep peeling away layer after layer to get to the facts.
During the last council meeting it was brought up that over $200,000.00 was taken out of the water fund for legal expenses. The next question should have been was any money taken out of the electric fund or the waste water treatment fund for legal purposes as well? Someone has to ask.

Council-President Hada mentioned that council had no intention of moving the venue to the Harvey media center along with changing the format back to the old way where citizens spoke first. I would like to see a show of hands by council on a vote on this issue.

13 Comments:

At June 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

TERM, PLEASE KEEP THIS PROBLEM GOING IN YOUR BLOG, WE JUST CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE.

People have the right to enjoy whatever music they like but they don't have the right to impose it on their neighbors and I'm glad that our city understands that. I've been a pest about the noise this spring, but the dispatchers are always friendly and courteous and I appreciate them, too!

EVERYONE PLEASE KEEP CALLING THE POLICE ON LOUD NOISE, IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT CITY WIDE, AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO TELL THEM YOUR NAME.
THANK YOU

time to call the police for the
5th time this weekend......

 
At June 12, 2011 at 9:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the cost of buying power through Amp-Ohio? What ever it is add 2 million dollars to the figure. The main point should be made is that they didn't know the cost would be on a 50 year coal plant, yet the city council takes them at their word on Painesville's future 35 year electric needs?

 
At June 12, 2011 at 9:42 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

9:14 could you give a general area? Major streets ect.
I believe you mentioned the police were taking the problem seriously. Have you called your councilperson?

 
At June 12, 2011 at 5:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of it being a work session, maybe council should make it a listen to session?

 
At June 12, 2011 at 6:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term! So who is it that was appointed to the AMP-OHIO Northern Power Pool?

 
At June 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

6:16 Well, Painesville

 
At June 13, 2011 at 12:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have so many electric and budget experts on this blog I think we should just let all of them make the decisions, run the city and then the rest of us can sit back and second guess them with hind site next year.

 
At June 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 5:40...Sounds good but council already listens too much...to the administration. How about an actually think for yourselves meeting?

 
At June 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

12:22 Really, how hard would it be to lose 2 million dollars? The present "experts" have managed that, along with knowing about 91 year old water lines and who knows what next? A lot of their decisions are no-brainers this administration is very easy to second guess.
1:39 You make a good point. Think if this was their money for an expenditure on their property and home, would they buy into a contract like this?

 
At June 14, 2011 at 1:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, this is 6:16. Didn't mean to be stupid. Thought it was an individual, not the city. There has always seemed to be some kind of unholy alliance between Painesville leaders and AMP-OHIO, so the fact that we know nothing of this is just icing on the cake. McMahon and Hada and their little private tidbits. Last one cost 2 million.

 
At June 15, 2011 at 1:20 PM , Anonymous ChChChChanges -D. Bowie said...

I didn't know you had a brother named Mark. Gerken is not a very common name. May explain why you are always in a pickle with PC and PC schools.
Anyone in the Cedarbrook area know about a petition going around? Was leaving the house and missed them. Can anyone shed any light?
Preach it Joe Hada. Please keep the meetings at city hall that way the city won't be lumped with the schools bad rap. Hopefully he will continue to keep the format the same, three minutes is plenty of time to state your case. Still don't think so, write a script for your family and friends for their 3minutes too. It's clear you are not for changes, good, bad or indifferent.

 
At June 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1:20...in case you missed this too...the schools' bad rap is ALREADY a big problem for the city. A city and its schools are inextricably linked...property values, tax dollars for everyone, attracting and retaining committed residents etc. And you don't have to tell Hada to 'preach it'...he already has that mastered.

 
At June 16, 2011 at 7:33 PM , Anonymous Changes, part 2-the end said...

Amen My Brothas and Sistas. But I didn't miss a thing. I am speaking of linking HHS bad reputation with the city. Keep the negatives apart.

 

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