Monday, May 16, 2011

"ALL SUMMER LONG" kid rock

Well, at Monday night's council meeting the water situation was tabled. So it might be resolved at next Monday's work session. The administration proposed six scenarios on how to raise 1.2 million dollars a year. ranging from a $4.50 resident fee to (I guess) a ten dollar per meter charge. Everyone should have had a calculator. With not enough to think about, I asked if a house is unoccupied will they be charged the flat fee also?
Will pay for and build the steel building for the Vadadium Redox battery out of the electric fund. It's Painesville's contribution to the grant project. Also, after the tests, the battery will be ours.
Parking fines will escalate: $5.00 to 10.00 to $25.00 and the next step is a court date with the Judge.
Soon Windmill Estates will be a new development....wait, it was but then left on second reading.
All 5 Valedictorians were honored in a resolution. Just a thought... if a student at Riverside High lived in Heisley Park, Cobblestone, or Liberty Greens shouldn't we also honor them? They are Painesville residents as well.

9 Comments:

At May 16, 2011 at 8:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

no,they shouldn't receive special honor from us. Their parent's tax money doesn't go to our school. They may be city residents but they are not Painesville City School Students. That thought and you should honor any valedictorian from Notre Dame who lives in the city, or Lake Catholic's Valedictorian or even Fairport. Also, I saw the gpa's of each of the valedictorian. It's not like it was a tie. The highest gpa should have been the lone valedictorian. That's the way it was when I was in schol. You could be a tenth of a point apart and the top gpa was valedictorian.

 
At May 17, 2011 at 8:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At May 17, 2011 at 9:07 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

8:11 Your arguement has enough holes in it . Lake Catholic, Notre Dame. First if they live in Painesville the parents PAY Painesville school taxes.Second is Heisley Park or Liberty Greens part of Painesville or do you believe they are a suburbs of Painesville. You should HONOR all students that live in Painesville period. Or don't we have separation of schools and city?
Then the parents of the students should be honored for saving their child from presently attending the worse failed system in the county.

 
At May 17, 2011 at 9:26 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

After attending last night council meeting it was very interesting when councilman Flock showed the pictures of all the water on the site. My question is where will that water go?
I presently don't have a clue where the water rates will go. I got the impression that it would be sooo much easier if we charged a flat $10 fee per meter?
Seems are parking woo's downtown are being blamed on county workers?
Some I guess are willing to pay the $5.00 ticket daily for a certain spot?
I am doing some research to see how much the city will receive in taxes from Windmill Estates, not counting utilities, or city income tax for those figures are unknown and can't be used outside the department that collects it. How many of those 144 homeowners will work or pay city income taxes is unknown. So out of the tax base of 144 homes at $170,000 selling price what does Painesville receive for police,fire, road maintence[including snowplowing] and any other city service the city provides. I believe you will soon learn that this city cannot survive on developments such as this one. We seem to be digging a bigger hole for ourselves. The city manager must know this?

 
At May 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is an explanation of why those types of developments are important to a city like Painesville, They raise our published average and median annual income levels. Those are two important numbers that retail businesses look at when deciding where to locate new stores, etc.

Currently as an 80% Democratic city that fully embraces all the low income that Lake County wants to put here our income levels are so low that no respectable business except a dollar store, internet cafe, or check cashing business would want to locate here.

 
At May 17, 2011 at 11:04 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

I agree but it seems with the current demographics the businesses seem to be locating in the township or Mentor? How do we get those residents downtown if hardly any business are located in the city?
It amazes me that with a college in town we don't even have a Starbuck's or even a local coffee shop downtown[I've been told one is coming] These could act as hubs.

 
At May 17, 2011 at 7:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the extra water money needed, I think they need to start out by clearly explaining to us how much they have already generated with the 2007 raise in water rates that was for this old-pipe problem. Then tell us exactly where and how it was spent, letting people look at the books to verify the figures and expenditures. Next they can tell us how much that raise in rates is generating so far this year. Then they can tell us how much money on these improvements they think they will have time to spend in any one year (an estimate of how many miles of pipes can our workers replace in any one year). Then we will have some idea of what we have coming in from the current raise in rates, and how much we may need in any given year of additional money, after the current raise in rates is figured in. Then calculate if they charge every household, business and apartment building 1.00, how much would we be lacking? I would charge the apartment buildings 1.00 for each unit, but only charge them for maybe 3/4 or 4/5 of the units. That way, they get a little break, and nobody has to worry about refiguring it every time a unit gets occupied or someone moves out. Anyway, I would start with those basic questions and calculations, and see how it needs to be tweaked from there. (And I DID mean to say ONE dollar, not ten.)

 
At May 18, 2011 at 12:41 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just finished reading the article about Painesville in Tuesday's News-Herald. The city is saying that the reason that the increase for water infrastructure improvements, that we still have on since 2008, is not enough is because people quit using as much water because of the increase. I am just not buying this. Not one little bit. Sounds like another whole pile of B.S. to me. Sounds like one more stupid thing that they think up to tell the people so the people will go along with them.

I say we start with a small increase to add to the increase we already have, and we fix them over a few years. Not everything will be or can be fixed in the next year or two. They underestimated a little on the current increase, and all of a sudden we need a whole new big increase? Not buying it.

 
At June 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

For anyone that knows, Heisley Park was originally zoned as Painesville Township. It was rezoned to provide a larger development. That is why they are in the school district. All the students should be honored no matter what.

 

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