"COUNCIL MEETING 10/02/09"
Council will hold a meeting Monday night a 7:30p.m. all are invited.
Not to much going on a resolution about the Matricla Identification Card, and support and partnering in the 2010 census. A report from the water department is also on the agenda.
Someone told me a cute story last night I will share with you . Please do not think these a individuals are an one you know.
The Queens Egg Business
The Queen in this kingdom had a very successful fertilized egg business. She had several hundred young layers [hens] also called pullets, and around seven roosters whose job it was to fertilize the eggs. The Queen kept records and any rooster who did not perform up to her standards went into the soup pot and were replaced.
That took an awful lot of time so she bought set's of tiny bells and attached them to her roosters, each bell with its own different tone, so the Queen could tell from a distance which rooster was performing and now could sit on her porch and fill out efficiency reports simply by listening to the bells.
The Queens favorite rooster "Old Joe" a very fine specimen., but on one morning Old Joe's bell hadn't rung at all.
The Queen went to investigate. The other roosters were chasing pullets with bells ringing, but to the Queens amazement Old Joe had his bell in his beak so it couldn't ring and he kept sneaking up on the pullets one after an other.
The Queen was so proud she entered him into the county fair and he became an overnight sensation with the Judges. The Judges awarded Old Joe the No Bell Piece Prize and the Pullet Surprise as well.
Clearly Old Joe was the politician in the hen house who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most coveted awards by being the best at sneaking up on the populous and screwing them when they weren't paying attention?
Vote carefully! The bells are not always audible.
posted by terminator1 @ 5:08 AM
57 Comments
57 Comments:
If the fraudulent Matricula Card will be discussed Veronica Dahlberg will be there.
VD, we will be ready to counteract any misinformation and the "tear jerker" stories you care to throw. have at it!
It's about time Painesville stops accepting these cards.. Thanks Hall for bringing this to councils attention... Know all the Mexicans will leave.
Thanks
The city was not using the cards long before Hal brought it up, don't give him credit for it.
The commissioners have passed a resolution accepting the card. This affects all of Lake County. If the city would pass a resolution it would be a little more ammunition to use against the commissioners. That is what this is all about. Plus a firmer stance from the city against the matricula card that VD so overwhelmingly supports.
Remember what someone said about what you hear in the last days of a campaign?
Well a little bird told me the News-Heard is going negative on John Murphy in tommorrows paper.
Just a reminder where it comes from and pay attention who was in conversation with this person at the Lake Health Gala on Saturday Night what position this person holds in the community.
Please is this the best you got?
I would imagine that most people would have voted by the time they see anything in the New-Herald tomorrow. That is really despicable campaigning.
Well a little bird told me the News-Heard is going negative on John Murphy in tommorrows paper.
Well first we will see if they do.
Second we will see if it is true.
Third, if it is news, whenever it is printed, good for them.
More information for the voters is a good thing.
What is he trying to hide?
John Murphy Campaigns at the funeral of dead marines.
DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM.
The commissioners have passed a resolution accepting the card. This affects all of Lake County.
Liar. Why do you guys lie all the time about this. The county does not accept these cards either. Even if they did, the city does not. Maybe this fact should be used in the Commissioners campaign, if it even exists. It is a waste of the city's time.
Why do we need to battle the county of the Matricula cards. We have home rule and we don't take them. How much money do you want to waste in litigation? We can't tell them what to do and they can't tell us what to do. So what if the county takes them.
I certainly hope the comment about the News-Herald saying something bad about John Murphy is not true. If so, I can't imagine what anyone could think of to say that is detrimental.
For years now, Murphy has watched over this city and the people in it. His knowledge of this city and all it's problems and issues is vast.
Many residents already go to John when they cannot get anyone on council to help them.
I turned to John myself in the last year after well over a decade of not being able to get any relief for my neighborhood from the odors from The Water Treatment (sewage) Plant. Previously to John getting involved, we couldn't even get treated with respect, let alone get help with the odors.
John has been a strong, amiable presence with this issue. He methodically set out to get completely informed on the issue. He studied all the facts, found out what was possible and what was not. He toured the plant with us and started a dialogue with the person in charge there.
Odor control is now an on-going concern at the plant. Many improvements have been made, and many more are in the works. They are doing fantastic work over there. We couldn't be more pleased.
Please do not think that John is an old friend of mine and I am plugging my friend.
I started to pay attention to John a couple of years ago because I was so impressed with his civic activities. When I could not get help from anyone else, I turned to him because there was nobody else in sight.
I do consider Murphy a friend now, but I would not be asking for your vote for that reason.
He is a calm fact-finder. He studies all the angles of an issue from beginning to end. John is also a free-thinker, which I think is one of the reasons "they" don't want him to get elected.
Please don't be swayed by any political garbage. My neighborhood needs John Murphy, and so does yours.
All I will say is whats the connection with the city by this person. and who in the city is his buddy? Its a last minute attack.
Susan your so right about John a real genuine concern for Painesville and its residents and he is attacked for campaigning at a heroes funeral? I say Thank-You to Lori, Tony, and John.
He should be attacked for campaigning at a funeral. That is awful. His concern for the mourners in attendance was certainly not genuine. What else about him is not genuine?
4:11 pm, you are the one that needs to get your facts straight. The commissioners most certainly passed a resolution in 2005 to accept the matricula card. It is now accepted by realtors and banks for illegals to purchase homes and get other lines of credit. This is detrimental to all of us when these loans are defaulted on. Also, if they are illegal they have absolutely no business getting anything. Only illegals need the matricula. It is unverifiable. Mexico issues it to anyone strictly for the purpose of their people getting benefits in the U.S. Mexico will not even accept it. FACTS!
"I certainly hope the comment about the News-Herald saying something bad about John Murphy is not true."
What if what they say about him is absolutely true?
Are you in favor of hiding something about him from the voters?
JLammers@News-Herald.com
On the eve of the election, Ohio Elections Commission officials are reviewing a complaint against a Painesville City Council at-large candidate.
The OEC received the complaint Monday and were in the midst of reviewing it, a spokesperson said.
The complaint was lodged against John R. Murphy, who is one of five candidates seeking three seats on council.
Robert G. Schiebli, president of the Lake County AFL-CIO Central Labor Council, contends that some of Murphy's literature he has passed out contains false information.
In one piece, Murphy states that from 1984-1988 he served as project director for the Lake County AFL-CIO.
"I can definitely state that Mr. Murphy was never employed by the Lake County AFL-CIO," Schiebli wrote in his complaint.
Murphy explained that there might have been some confusion over which agency he served.
"It wasn't technically the AFL-CIO. It was the United Labor Agency. It was all the same thing. It's just confusing," Murphy said.
"I was just trying to give the community some of my background."
In his literature, Murphy also states that while serving the Lake County Community Service Block Grant, he allocated federal government dollars for Lake County Agencies.
Schiebli said that Murphy's claims are false.
"Mr. Murphy had no power (zero) to allocate any federal or state funds — that was not his job," Schiebli stated.
Murphy said he thinks Schiebli has an agenda.
"I don't think Mr. Schiebli can derail the election," Murphy said.
Newly elected members will begin their term Jan. 1.
7:42
So waht are you going to do? Sue the county? Don't waste my tax dollars.
Complaint filed against John Murphy and he didn't deny the charges. He apparently wrote that he worked for the AFL-CIO and he never did. He also said he was allcoating funds for where he did work, but he did not such thing.
He also claims to have degrees which he does not. He is the one trying to put one over on the voters. How can you vote for such a man?
But angelo will probably not post this until after the polls close so...
To 4:11, the Commissioners did pass a resolution endorsing the Matricula Card.
2005 LAKE CTY MATRICULA CONSULAR CARD RESOLUTION
Commissioners' Office, Lake County
Painesville, OH, October 13, 2005
Commissioner Troy presented the following resolution and moved its adoption.
RESOLUTION ENDORSING USE OF THE MATRICULA CONSULAR ISSUED BY THE MEXICAN CONSULATE FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES
WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners hereby finds and determines that all formal actions relative to the adoption of this resolution were taken in an open meeting of this Board of County Commissioners, and that all the deliberations of this Board of County Commissioners and of its committees, if any, which resulted in formal actions, were taken in meetings open to the public, in full compliance with applicable legal requirements, including Section 121.22 of the Revised Code, and
WHEREAS, The Matrícula Consular or Consular ID Card is the official record issued by the Mexican Government to any Mexican individual living abroad. The High Security Consular Registration Document is issued to the petitioner as a proof of citizenship; and
WHEREAS, the purpose of consular registration is to enable consular officers to provide protection and access to consular services, as well as to help relatives and authorities locate Mexican nationals abroad. Consular registration is recognized by international law and consular posts of every country around the world exercise the service to enable consular and diplomatic officers to furnish inherent rights and privileges of citizenship, and
WHEREAS, throughout the country, the consular ID has gained recognition by government and law enforcement officials for the visitors and residents working in its communities.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of County Commissioners, in and for Lake County, Ohio, hereby endorses the benefits to be derived to Mexican nationals of obtaining and using the Matrícula Consular.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Clerk of the Board is hereby directed to forward certified copies of this resolution to the Lake County Auditor; Lake County Sheriff Daniel A. Dunlap; and to Oscar Antonio de la Torre Amezcua, Consulate of Mexico, 645 Griswold Ave., Suite 830, Detroit, MI 48226.
Commissioner Sines seconded the resolution and the roll being called upon its adoption, the vote resulted as follows:
"AYES": Commissioners: Aufuldish, Sines and Troy
"NAYS": None
Resolution adopted,
Amy Elszasz, Clerk
CLERK'S CERTIFICATION
I, Amy Elszasz, duly appointed Clerk of the Board of County Commissioners, do hereby certify that this is a true and accurate copy of a resolution adopted by said Board on October 13, 2005 and recorded in the Commissioners' Journal, Volume 2005.
WITNESS my hand this thirteenth of October, 2005, in Painesville, Ohio.
_________________________________
Amy Elszasz, Clerk
Board of Commissioners, in and
for Lake County, Ohio
I knew you would not put the truth on here
Hmm..Last minute attacks..read today's News Herald..false information in his campaign literature. And I was at the funeral on Saturday as he drove slowly up and down Mentor Ave with his live-in right behind him..both cars plastered with their campaign signs. Plenty of parking at the church..college..he never even turned in to either to check.
Sorry, Murphy is not what this city needs...
Hers a last minute attack you can think about. Joe and Mary Hada although couldn't find time to go to a Marines funeral did find the time to attend a $125.00 a plate Gala at LaMafia to celebrate the new hospital. Wonder who bought those tickets? In the same room I watched a councilman and a Hospital Board member in a conversation. That board member is the person has now filed a complaint against John Murphy? My reason is very simplw for mr vote for Mr. Murphy why are certain people so worried about him being on council? Maybe they have things to hid?
Going to a Gala beats standing in the rain, and isn'y this the same hospital board that stuck it to Painesville with there move? Whats Joe doing begging for income taxes?
Mr. Rellik
Did they know the marine? Do you go to funerals of people you don't know when it is not a campaign stop?
Maybe they paid for their own tickets. If you have the guts to make an accusation then make it.
Hey Mr Killer,
You do not know if and how Joe & Mary mourned for David, what you need to know is they did send there condolences.
Yes a union offical going against a candidate, got to wonder if Murph paid him. Its like an endorsement.
Mr. Rellik = Mr. Rellik unless you know its just a guess?
8:46 Actions speak louder than words, Was I the only one that noticed the extra Hada signs by the church once it was announced where the funeral was?
Who bought the tickets to the Gala? funny no denial there? Will you ask whoever you know why they would even attend a funtion hosted by people that put a dagger in Painesvilles heart?
Mr. Rellik
so you aren't denying that Mr. Rellik is Murphy, you are just asking me to prove it?
I'm not denying anything. Mr. Rellik could be him, could be me, could be Joe Hada, could be you? I have no way of knowing who he or she is and for you to assume its John Murphy is just a wild guess.
The only one person who knows for sure. Right?
Me, I'm more concerned who KAREN is? KAREN= ?????
Me I'll be glad when this election is over, debating issues and disagreeing about policy is more interesting and informative then to talk about peoples motives in an election. I can only hope for Painesville sake the right people are elected. We must make the right moves.
Campaign 09' Guess which candidate that has served at least 7 terms decided to park his sons car in front of a Morley Library and plaster signs all over it. Well I guess they didn't know or aren't impressed with you. It got towed.
You are liar sir. He did not park his son's car there. AND it DID NOT GET TOWED. Ask your own Murphy poll worker. He was there the whole day. You just can't stop lying. Lying about work experience, lying about degrees you supposedly got, lying about cars getting towed.
Extra signs by the church before the funeral? I'm sure you are lyin about that too.
"Who bought the tickets to the Gala? funny no denial there?"
I'm sure if the council people read this sad little blog full of murphy people they would deny having the city pay for the tickets. But for know I'll deny it for them.
Will you ask whoever you know why they would even attend a funtion hosted by people that put a dagger in Painesvilles heart?
Why was Arlene there then? She endorsed Murphy.
so funny!
Have a request for a whatever happened to: John Gatti, teacher, coach at Harvey High School left around 1965. Anybody know?
Nice job editing that post out Angelo. Can't handle posting the truth if your buddy's are wrong huh?
The car wasn't towed but you won't post that.
One of the many lies. Man up Angelo. Don't be a coward.
If your people are liars let someone call them out. Your editing just makes this blog more disgusting.
You and your cohorts lie all the time and can't face the truth. You all tried to lie to get Murphy elected and now have even resorted to lying about a car getting towed.
If the residents only knew...
It would be a true relief if I could read the posts on this blog that contain complete sentences and proper spelling.
Maybe all of these posting people graduated from Harvey High and were exposed to the 50% rule long before anyone in this city (last two years) exposed this policy.
Big deal about the car with a sign on it, Richard Tibbets parked his truck with a John Murphy sign on it in Chase Banks parking lot, I called and asked if the Bank was supporting him they said no, and his truck should not be there, but it was not towed.
the results are in!! the people have spoken! So the rest of you please stop...
THANK YOU PAINESVILLE
SORRY TONY,
PLEASE TRY AGAIN.
3:48pm, I don't know who TERM is, so I am not one of his cohorts. I don't know if he has lied about anything. what I do know is I follow what is happening in the city and I have followed each council member and how they vote and what they have said. I can think for myself and it is obvious that with this administration we are and will continue to be in trouble.
8:24am, yes I go to funerals of people I don't know when that person gave his life for me and my rights. 8:46am, it is easy to sign a name to a card and send condolences. The real tribute is to give of your time to show respect and give thanks to someone who gave their life for me and you. Hadas, you lost a lot of respect with your actions and inaction and now defending what you did. You should have been at the funeral. You were able to go and show respect to the hospital system that screwed the city, but not the marine who gave his life for you, his city, his country! We will not forget him, and we will not forget your actions.
It's about time Painesville stops accepting these cards.. Thanks Hall for bringing this to councils attention... Know all the Mexicans will leave.
Names HAL and the city does not accept these cards but the township does. Isn't that where most of the people are that complain about Painesville are? You know those protestesters who can't keep their nose in their own community. Maybe they should spend more time in their own communtity finding out why it is accepted there!
8:00am, the commissioners office is located in Painesville so our noses are in our own community. Lake County. The commissioners endorse the matricular, so Lake County endorses the matricular. There is a lot of Lake County business located in Painesville. So Painesville City itself doesn't accept it, but everything else in Painesville does. It is only lip service for the city to say they don't accept it. They need to take steps to remove Painesville's sanctuary city status.
What is so difficult to understand?? There is no data base for U.S. law enforcement to verify the Matricula Card. The Lake County Sheriff's Department does not accept this as ID. And yet Dahlberg continues to cry and complain when an Illegal Alien is stopped and the only ID they are carrying is a Matricula Card. When anyone else is stopped, they are expected to show valid ID! Dahlberg needs to stop expecting our law enforcement to look the other way when an illegal alien is stopped/arrested. And how was Dahlberg able to persuade the Lake County Comissioners to pass such a resolution endorsing the Matricula Card??
6:01am, that is a good question. Who is paying the commissioner's salary. You and I, not Dahlberg. She lives in Ashtabula County. Contact the commissioners, each and every one of them, and tell them what you think of their resolution and ask them to rescind it. For the good of Lake County CITIZENS. Who else should they have allegiance to?
The questions about the Matricula Card is valid. Inform your coucilpeople you want this legislation passed. If you don't it will get railroaded by the council president as unneeded or a usless ordinance. Beware if they try to water it down, three months ago I watched a young man go into a Beverage store in Painesville and purchase beer with the card. We in Painesville have a reputation of being a "Sanctury City" the way laws and ordinances are ignored it is a well founded claim. Ms. Dahlberg worked hard in the shadows to bring this upon us and shes not going to give up without a fight.
As far as the County Commissioners if they go this hard headed approach this may end the career of Dan Troy in the next election cycle. Wonder who the Republicans will run in 2010 and 2012?
You have to wonder who besides V.D. is behind all this.
Question. Does anyone know why the charges have been dropped against the hispanic who committed the alleged rape against the 17 year old high school student? It looks like all charges have been dropped as of last Monday. What the heck is going on?
Question. How do you know the charges were dropped? I have not seen that reported anywhere if its true then someone should furnish an explanation.
TERM, go to pmcourt.com and look up the name of the alleged rapist or just look under November 2 and it is all there. Under each and every charge for this guy it says charges dropped. What is that about?
This is a rally cry for all Americans
The Grassroots Rally Team of Ohio, the Cleveland Tea Party
Patriots and the Geauga County Tea Party Patriots are hosting
A Tea Party Against Amnesty for Illegal Immigration, to
debate the overwhelming frequency of amnesty, to be held at
the Painesville city Square on Saturday November 14, 2009
from 12:00 PM to 2:00 PM to coincide with other rallies
throughout the country.
AMNESTY According to Webster Third World Dictionary
1. Voluntary overlooking of an offense by the one
offended.
2. The act of an authority (as a government) by
which general pardon of an offense is granted
often before trial or conviction esp. to a large
group of individuals.
HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE
Might have been turned over to grand jury ?
Might have not been true, you never know ?
CNN News - Not Fox - You Won't Believe This!I have seen this one before, but
it needs to be resent..
Obama wasn't lying when he said illegals would not be able to get medical
coverage under his ObamaCare plan. His simple fix is to make them all legal
first.
EVERYONE--PLEASE TAKE TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS--IT TELLS ABOUT THE BILL
GOING THRU CONGRESS RIGHT NOW REGARDING IMMIGRATION.
EVEN CNN IS GETTING UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!
Pass this on after you watch it. NOTICE THAT THIS IS FROM CNN, NOT
FOX!!!
This from CNN news:
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
This 2-minute video should be mandatory viewing for every US citizen.
If you have never passed anything on before, pass this on! Every
American should be outraged!
I watch it and to be honest if the people of this country, Democrats and Republican along with Independents, don't get a handle on this you won't have a country.
If I didn't know better I would guess this was a parody, its not.
American spend to much time watching American Idol, and bragging about "Party in the Park"
to give a damn whats going on .
I think your comment about Party in the Park was uncalled for. As probably the best thing that happens in this city we should all be bragging about it.
It is comments like this that encourage people to not take you seriously.
If "Party in the Park" is the best we got. You have to wonder how seriously anyone should take us.
Its a great venue but don't hang your citys future on it.
Safety, education, all the things that would make people want to live here the other 51 weekends.
the hispanic male accused of raping the 17 year old high school student has been bound over to the grand jury. the pm records have been updated to indicate this. At least for the rape charge. It still looks like kidnapping and gross sexual imposition have been dismissed. I checked the Common Pleas site and it is listed there.
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