"IT TO LATE BABY,"
Thought I'd clean up a few ends today.
Last week Asst. City Manager e-mailed me with some information about the lawnmowing of properties. There is no bids but the city puts out for "quotes" This year J.D. Skytta Construction, and Yardmaster had the best quotes. If next year you would like to enter a quote e-mail nsivetsen@painesville.com or call 392-5922. Just a reminder you need more equipment than a 20' Toro, but I see possibilities of a student home from college, or someone needing income to give a quote.
Lake Hospital Systems sent me a letter, plus T.V.ads, full page in the News-Herald. Why? Ask a business person what it costs to change your name, everything from letterheads, signs, you name it. Someone should ask the Hospital Board how this name change has improved healthcare in Lake County this bunch knows how to spend money. If it looks like your area might use another hospital they build emergency rooms at 5 million dollars to keep them from using Geneva Hospital {UHS} but if you have been in a community for a 100 years they ask you to help find 2.5 million to clean up their fogotten site. I'd like to tell them "tear it down yourself" and tell city residents go to University Hospital maybe they might build an emergency room in town?
Anybody read the Cobblestone article in the Lake County Tribune 06/12/09/ I will ask to reprint it. but if you get a chance read it then tell me who "dropped the ball" That article tells alot on how the City of Painesville is run.
Got an e-mail back from Cleveland Magazine, for $30.00 they will send me the figures and facts I asked for. $30.00 to be called retarded or willfully ignorant by some on this blog? Nah, I'll spend that money at the Depot for dinner.
Watch the school board meeting on Ch.96 Dr. Hanlon was asked if the school property sites could be sold? The district Treasurer stated the schools could sell the land sites for as little as a dollar, if they choose to. Thats what I think I heard. My apology to Dr. Hanlon. Well Dr. Hanlon if you payed one-third of the cost of tearing down the building doesn't it make sense that you should at least get your money back for what the taxpayers of Painesville spent to tear it down?
Something I just was sent
http://www.downtownpainesville.org/map.html.
Just to throw in a trvia here in the Meatloaf video "Rock and Roll Dreams Come True" who is the female star of the video?
posted by terminator1 @ 7:27 AM
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51 Comments:
Money seems nothing to some of these people changing the name to Lake Health so what? your right it doesnt provide any better services and I pray another Hospital system moves into the area. Sell that land for a dollar and watch how fast I file a lawsuit. I havent seen proof that the board has even payed their share of expenses for the traffic lights at Cedarbook, and Kennsington.
Mary Poppins
I spotted Alpagirl doing yard work in "Big Bobs" yard? Did they kiss and make-up?
Just read the Cobblestone article, We didn't have a contract just an agreement? What was Grand River to receive out of this agreement? Grand River, and Painesville Township wanted a sitdown with Painesville and they were ignored? Painesville could use a fire chief like the townships, what you say he's the former Painesville fire chief. Probably had had enough. Joe Hada it was your resposibility to inform the rest of council when you found out. Quit hiding behind that ladys apron its unbecoming.
The CM LIED.......Period What did she expect a small village like Grand River to do for free? Go back to the council meeting minutes a read what she said about Grand River as first responders when ir was first proposed. When she assured council it was presented as some contract. This Lady is in so far over her head she can'r keep the story straight.
A little correction Mr. Term it was Treasurer Andy Taylor that said the land could be sold for a dollar Dr. Hanlon just let that srarement stand. Another resident first complains about all the money the residents have spent on the city schools, then he wants the Huntington property for a dollar also? Two school sites two dollars and then they said they could reject the highest bidder. This is what happens when you give control of property which they have no monetary stake in.
I stand corrected I know I heard someone say the land could be sold for as little as a dollar.
looks like it's going to be a long hot summer in Painesville. Anyone else see the situation over on East Erie Street about 11pm Saturday night. Over 100 mexicans and blacks, 6 police cars, and a couple sheriff cars. What happened? Rumble in the city? I'm sure we won't read about this in the paper.
Its our diversity whats wrong with you? We import Blacks from the Cleveland and illegals from Mexico and they battle over turf that ain't worth zilch. The city has lost all control thanks to Rita.
Craig
As for Lake Hospital..sorry to see you leave..maybe someone could coax the Cleveland Clinic or University Hospitals to build here.
Township Fire Chief Frank Whittaker.. Good man and you're right.. he left for greener pastures and better working environment. Now he runs three exceptional fire stations, vs being micro-managed by Rita at one station.
Not sure about the police response the other night, contact the pd as they should have record of it. But I do know the gangs and fighting between different groups has worsened in the last year.
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"Over 100 mexicans and blacks, 6 police cars, and a couple sheriff cars. What happened? Rumble in the city?"
This points to one of Painesville's biggest problems, in my opinion. I hate to say this, but I think that Painesville is perceived as a crime ridden town full of low income minorities who cause trouble.
That perception existed in the 70's when I was in high school in Chardon. Then, it was fear of blacks. I'm ashamed to say that our teams were afraid to come here to play Harvey. It was prejudice, pure and simple.
Now maybe we still have the same problem only we have fear and dislike of Mexicans added to the mix as well.
When I first moved to the North End I received several phone calls from my ex-husband, who was afraid I was putting our son in danger by moving to such a 'dangerous' neighborhood. (I've never had any problems, by the way, and I've learned to really like my neighborhood.)
I don't think that white people from out of town know or care much about the political workings of the City. I doubt that anyone says to his or her spouse "Oh, no, dear, we can't move to PAINESVILLE, their City Manager is a liar."
But when they hear people saying things like "Oh there were over 100 Mexicans and blacks causing trouble" you better believe that makes them think twice.
Racism exists. Prejudice exists.
Don't try to tell me it doesn't; when I have contractors here to work on the house and they say things like "Oh, how is it living next to them" meaning the Mexican family next door. Or "Oh, you've got a Rottweiler, yeah, the blacks don't like them". Or there's a report of kids trespassing and the remark is made "Well, at least they were white", like that even matters. Or someone buys a house on the street and we're told, in a relieved tone, "Oh, and they're WHITE" of the buyers. And I think it's behind some of the problems that we have here.
Don't ask me what the answer is, I have no idea. I wish I did. It's one of the hardest things to talk about. And I'm not holding myself out as some sort of superior person either; sometimes I wish I could move somewhere where I'd never have to hear booming rap or loud Mexican music again - maybe that makes me racist too. We can't talk about this issue if we aren't honest, though.
I think it would be interesting to do a survey and ask people, residents as well as non -residents, whites and minorities, "What's the first thing you think of when you think of Painesville?"
To the landscaper that lives in Painesville I didnt post your comment about "kickbacks" because there is no proof of that. I can see why your scratching your head.
Video I know nothing about a video with Karen in it.
so, hatetosayit, tell me. If it was 100 blacks and mexicans involved what should be said. Should someone lie? It should be told like it is. Don't hide the facts. If it was a black mexican problem, then that is what it was.
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Racism exists. Prejudice exists.
Yes it does.
So does Fear.
Fear of a perceived danger. Nothing happened in the 70's to justify that fear you had did it. Still the fear was there.
The different ethnic groups stay to themselves. Go to Rec park. How many hispanics are playing Little League? How many white or blacks play soccer? There are a group of hispanics who play baseball on Harvey's JV field. It can't be that any one group hates this sport or that sport. Racism, Prejudice and Fear exists. Everyone just sticks to there own. The fears will never disappear this way.
Now about fear and how it spreads to other communities and people.
One or two police cars at a traffic stop is no big deal anywhere. On a domestic disturbance, 2, 3, or more are needed for everyone's safety including the officers. Still no one thinks twice and they don't draw a big crowd.
The police need to back each other up at these calls for their own safety.
Now, what did happen Saturday night for that many cars to respond? Did the sheriff's department dispatch cars too? Why did the police need to call in that much backup? What made all those people (100?) leave their house and walk down the street to see what happened? Just how many were white, black or hispanic?
Something happened that's for sure. Since this happened on a major street heading into/out of Painesville, what do you think people who drove by and saw this thought. Who were the people involved? All these unanswered questions will only add fuel to the rumors.
Without any answers we only get more Racism, Prejudice and Fear.
Tell me could you name another community that would get the [76/54] rating and still keep electing the same people over and over? I think not, you like where you are keep voting for the same people, me I want a change.
For the bonus points: Angelina Jolie was the star of the Meat Loaf video.
Who is Zaremba Inc. bet we'll find out soon.
They manage apartment complexes. Why?
Zaremba is a builder who specializes in the "New Urbanism", similar to what is planned for the old hospital site. They build family oriented, walkable living neighborhoods.
Good post, Badger. And you are absolutely right - nothing happened back in high school to justify the fear.
Once I learned an interesting way to think about Fear. Fear is:
False Evidence Appearing Real
Worth thinking about.
That said, you're right again when you observe that people tend to stick with their own. I've noticed that too. Though it warms my heart sometimes when I'm out and about in town and I see a group of kids playing together - white, Hispanic, black, all together, having a good time. THAT is one of the things I love about Painesville. What happens to us as we become adults, I wonder. . .
And when I say "us" I include myself, painful as it is to realize that.
Angelina Jolie, was never in a Meatloaf video? You must be partying with the madpotter?
So here come the apartments for the hospital site. Well one plus there close to the fire station.
Oh my friemd you are so wrong she was.view the video.
Special finance meeting before tonights council meeting? What have the brains of the outfit finally figured out we are going to be a million dollars lest to play with next year? They just haven't been paying attention I guess?
Mary Poppins
Now after she has given every Tom,Dick,and Harry a raise. She will tell us we have to tighten our belts better yet how about a levy?
KAREN
Summer help for the city? All doing the same job with parks and recreation yet a $2.00 difference in pay?
explain please. A $2 difference in pay between who?
The city hired part-time help for the summer at $7.10 am hour but the city also hired some part-timers through the summer jobs program located in the old Telegraph building these workers are payed $9.10.
I let this post up because I have heard something like this> Does anyone know whos paying the $9.10?
who's paying the $9.10 and who are the ones qualifying for those jobs? I can see a real problem here if a certain nationality are getting the $9.10 and my white son is getting the $7.10. Someone please answer this.
Term,
I can't belive you posted the comment about the white son ?
The person that posted it is a bigot.
Why think it is a race thing ?
Obama stimulus is paying it.
Bigot? The question is why are some making $2.00 more an hour? Would it be a bigot question if an hispanic asked why is son makimg $2.00 less? How do you run a summer work program with a two dollar differencial? Isn't it more important that they fix this? I don't think it had anything to do with race, just who hired you.
term..Since when was "proof" required to substantiate a posting on this website..most of the information posted on this blog is simply hatred and despisal of certain people to support your obvious politcal goals...but obviously the person mentioned must be on your "I Like" list.. I have seen other folks comment on this person and you seem to go out of your way to tone done their issues, while letting others run out of control.
As for proof..hmmm..I've known JD Skytta for years..big talker..owes money to everyone..and he keeps a horse at the building inspector's barn..imagine that.
A Painesville Landscaper.
Race has nothing to do with it. No mention of race was necessary in any post. It really shows the brain trust of those who contribute to this site. This blog disgusts me.
Term you need to listen to some new music. Updated, more modern stuff. Need to get with the times.
it is a race thing and the whites are the discriminated race. That's a fact in Painesville. I am so sick of being jumped on when we say whites don't get treated fairly.
Yes, if a mexican was getting paid $2 less the ACLU and HOLA and the big Veronica would be all over the issue. But the other way around, and we are just complainers. That is what is wrong in Painesville and what will cause this city to blow one day soon.
NO ONE should be getting two dollars less period just fix it.
The white son, would do $2.00 less work then any other race, you all know that.....
No, I don't know that. In fact, I know that is not so. You are a racist. If a white person made a comment that the non white didn't do as much work there would be an outcry. As someone said earlier, the whites are the descriminated race. But we just don't complain. We work and work and work. You people are a bunch of mooching bellyachers!
Please a white guy doing as much outside summer work as a latino, you must be loco
Not loco. Just realistic. My white son works doubly hard to pay your bills. We are not part of the gimme gimme gimme society you belong to.
Bull,
My sons all work hard as well as my daughters and myself, we all do the work your white sons do not want to do, 12-14 hrs a day in the fields
Bull, yourself. Are you here legally? Are you receiving endless benefits? If you work 12-14 hours you get to keep all that money. I have to pay for my house, my insurance, my food, and your house, your free medical, your free, free, free. that is not bull. It is total BS that I have to support you and your daughters.
You do not support me , we support ourself's
You are one loco Bigot
I don't believe you. I am sure you are getting free medical! If, for some reason, you are not, you are definitely the exception to the rule. I am not a bigot! That is a tired slam you throw at people who question why illegals should be getting benefits that legal citizens pay for and do not receive. that is getting old. Try some facts. I have them. but all you have is a word -- bigot! Meaningless and untrue!
Anonymous freebie, if you work so many hours in the field (I hear the violins now), then how is it you are able to post so frequently during the day?
I was sent an interesting email about employing illegals I will post it, might open afew eyes.
If you go by the time line on this blog it is not right most of the time.
no, but if you check frequently you know that if the blog is updated a few times during the day, if our hard worker had posted at night it would be showing up on the blog in the first batch, not throughout the day.
TERM, when will you post your eye opener about employing illegals?
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