Friday, August 29, 2008

QUICKIE! ENJOY YOUR WEEKEND

Alot has been said about John Murphy and the "FENCE". Its seems that in the past that all school property that abutted residential property had a fence. I believe this was for both the good of the resident and the school. Look at Huntington, Lathrop, State ST. even Hobart had a fence behind the houses on Walnut St. John was campaigning in Ward 3 when someone on Lucille Ave. asked why there was no fence behind his house and school property. John took that persons concerns to the School Board and they seemed to think a fence was not warranted. John then then took his concerns to Mr, Fountain who told John it was a School Board issue. John told Mr. Fountain The people on Lucille were not residents of the School Board but Residents of the City of Painesville who you sir are supposed to represent. The rest is History. I asked John why he thought this was important. Johns reply was the people on Lucille deserve there privacy, and it backs more sense to have One type of fencing instead of a hogpoge of colors and styles of fence. The School Board has over $150,000 left for Landscaping which could include fences. HAPPY LABOR DAY ENJOY!!!!

23 Comments:

At August 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is so much bull

 
At August 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can we have a great weekend when Term. post this crap on his blog, we do not need to pay for a fence behind those yards, it is Term. running John's campaign for council, we do not need to waste money on a fence over there.

 
At August 29, 2008 at 10:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm wondering, when the new hospital is built, will patients still have to take a helicopter ride to Cleveland; for treatment? If so, what is the point?

 
At August 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares, what a stupid question.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 4:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is just another example of why TERM. and Murphy need to be as far away as possible from running our city.

When the school board builds something they must follow the same building codes as everyone else. Painesville uses the Ohio State building codes, and if those codes do not require a fence in that situation the city has no right to demand one from the school board.

Sure, the city could offer to pay for a fence, but why should they? then they establish a precedent that they could be forced to follow for every new building if the owners took them to court.

Ohio State building codes are pretty much modeled like the majority of codes across the country, if the code doesn't call for a fence the school board has every right in the world to say no.

If those owners want a fence they need to build it themselves.

The sad part is, Term and Murphy are very good politicians, pick a subject and use it to play with the minds of innocent uninformed people.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Politcians? They answered a neighbors problem,Building Codes? How about being a good neighbor I thought about the post and all the old schools have the fences. If I.m right 75% of the fence would be paid by the State. I dont live by any of the schools but if I did I would demand a fence.This is why I want change its seems its always pass the buck.,AND some of the complainers ae right by being tired of My Hands Are Tied, get a knife.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

so a couple weeks ago we had a blog post about the schools better not come to the public for more money but now its OK to build fences around all the schools to satisfy 2 or 3 people who complained?

Is that kind of contradictory? Sorry, but I don't want my money to go there, its better used trying to improve the education we give our kids.

I most certainly don't want the city to build it. 3/4 of the people on this blog site complain about how the city spends money and now it's OK to build fences to be nice? If any of you talk them into this let me know please, I want them to build one in my back yard too!

 
At August 30, 2008 at 1:35 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until you all get to see the electronic signs at all the new school buildings. Yes the School Administration went to the zoning commission to get moveable electric signs. Is that a waste of money? it depends, I guess on your idea of wasteful spending.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

A sign to inform the people, no it is not a waste of money, putting up a $ 10,000 fence to block the view, is a waste of money.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, The same people that tell you the fence is a waste of money will the you the signs are a great idea. Thank John for trying.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 2:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

John is trying to look good he does not care one bit about the fence

 
At August 30, 2008 at 3:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Electronic Signs? What do we need that for? This town is like an episode from the Twilight Zone.
Now thats a WASTE.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 3:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the last post, you don't john murphy. HE WILL HELP THOSE PEOPLE ON LUCILLE STREET. YEA, OF SO LITTLE FAITH. WHAT IF THAT WAS YOUR YARD THAT WAS UP ROOTED? YOU WOULD BE BELLOWING SO LOUD. AND YOU KNOW THAT IS TRUE. HE IS ONLY TRYING TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY, IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? IF I LIVED THERE I WOULD FEEL APPRECIATIVE THAT SOMEONE TOOK A INTEREST IN MY STREET TO LOOK OUT FOR US. GROW UP.MAYBE YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 5:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about an electric fence?
or maybe razor wire?

 
At August 30, 2008 at 5:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The School Board has over $150,000 left for Landscaping which could include fences."

Looks like you are making the case that this IS for the school to do and not the city. It is for the school to put up the fence, so Mr. Fountain appears to be correct. Nice you still tried to trash him. Go to the school and bug them to put up the fence. As you point out there hands are not tied. They have the funds, not the city. Their hands are not tied.

You would provide me with a good laugh if I was not scared someone would buy into your "information".

 
At August 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What your saying if you dont like what the School Administration tells you you have no recourse thru the City Government? The City Administration could stand up for the residents right? Or are the two one of the same? The people deserve a fence.

 
At August 30, 2008 at 6:15 PM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

I was anti fence and so I asked the resident engineer here ........ as he is working on a school in a city south of Cleveland.
He poses a good argument....... If there were woods in the backyards of the people on Lucille and now there is a school there should be a fence. It doesn't matter that the schools in the past had fences or not.
It is a matter of disrupting a persons lifestyle. (take a drive over there, you can see what they are cooking for dinner) They had privacy and now they don't. He said it's a zoning issue. The electric signs will also add to problem once they are plugged in as it is assumed they will be flashing their messages all night long. This could get ugly folks and a fence might be the cheapest way to go for the school board. (my two cents, not the engineer)
Time for a sit down with home owners/school board and zoning.
Good Luck everybody ......
MP

 
At August 31, 2008 at 8:25 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What your saying if you dont like what the School Administration tells you you have no recourse thru the City Government?"
Quite possibly no.
The school and city have separate governments for a reason. You complain about the efficiency of our city government but you ask that they police the actions of the schools also. Maybe the city if they had some leverage over the schools but I fail to see it. If you have a problem with the school administration run for school board and change it or vote out the people on the school board. The school board members are the only people with leverage over the school administration.

You, sir, may have an excellent argument for the school board and how they are screwing up here, but you sabotage your own argument by trying to bring Mr. Fountain and council into it. If you really care you will go to the people who can fix it. By going to Fountain I believe you are not really trying to fix it but rather create an attack on a council member that does not exist. Maybe you have some animosity with him, I don't know, but it leads me to believe your efforts are not sincere.

 
At August 31, 2008 at 1:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me understand this you give millions of dollars to people who dont have the common sense to have the proper flood insurance,but someone who just had 400 kids put behind their house they cant have a fence? I Love this Town!
The first message on that sign should be screw the people and there fence.
Mr.Rellik

 
At August 31, 2008 at 1:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The School Administration has to follow the same rules as everyone else. Building codes, Health Dept. issues. Yes I beleive a City Councilman can get involved to come to a satisfactory conclusion.
Its called being a good and responsible neighbor. I remember reading in the Citys Comprehensive Plan that any new Constrution Projects should not have an adverse action on existing property owners.

 
At August 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the second poster, If you can't have a great weekend because of the crap I post here, why do you look? I'm just running a blog.site

 
At August 31, 2008 at 7:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's afraid he will miss something to B---- about. Sorry complain about.

 
At August 31, 2008 at 8:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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