"LAND OF CONFUSION" genesis
Superman where are you now
When everything's gone wrong somehow
First off Councilman DeLeone is no Superman. That said he should be given credit for going to other community council meetings to see how their meetings are run.
Seems councilman DeLeone is interested in council procedures. Well so am I. maybe we view it from different sight lines?
No clapping or booing? Look I have yet to hear booing, and face it clapping for the most part is spontaneous and we clap a lot at council meetings for many good reasons. Will all clapping be stopped?
NEXT;
When addressing council in visitors time ... one subject period. You can't complement the city and then address them on another issue. One subject! Myself what difference what anyone talks about in those three minutes? This will cut down on awkward time for council members. Most would you rather address them with a phone call as to your concerns so as to keeping the situation out of the public eye.
It seems a well run government organization would want more input from citizens. More input rather than less. The Chaplin for the American Legion at the last council meeting was speaking on the issue of the Painesville Senior Center. Sorry times up! clerk of council Tara Grimm announced. (another new procedure?) In the past if you were complementing the city they might let you go on for a half hour, along with the Council-President being the timekeeper. Now by cutting this conversation off we learned very little what the American Legion proposed for the Senior Center. Is this the way to run a meeting? Of course someone could be elected to council such as a director or member of the American Legion or Senior Center who then can speak as long as they wish. Ala! Councilman Fodor speaking on the DPO! See how it's all geared to who you are?
Seems on these issues councilman DeLeone has a solution to a problem that doesn't exist!
Now from the other side of the front table. You want to talk about procedure? I have in the past witnessed council people on their cell phones texting, carrying on conversations amongst themselves, nodding off with their eyes closed and there tongue out. As others around me giggled. Constant interruption of each other, those microphones are there for a reason people. As well as viewing a council that seems at times to be out of control with leadership not halting the proceedings.
I seem to remember a time when a certain council member looked up at the camera and wished his wife a Happy Birthday! Professional?
I guess my point is it's not the residents that make you people look clueless to what your own member's are doing... It's YOURSELVES!
Here's a thought how about being a little less cavalier about excusing member's from council meetings? Look if it isn't an illness or another family crisis maybe it shouldn't be excused? You have only one meeting in July and August as to say take a vacation. Remember you signed up for the job. As well as taking your paycheck.
Hears a hint Mike, go to a Painesville School Board Meeting all of you could learn a lot about procedures. Fault them over issues but they do run as well as control a meeting if only one or one hundred people are in the room.
Trump claim that he will give up his gun "when they peel my cold dead tiny finger's from around it!"
OR 2000 Trump;
I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.
OR 2012
On the Sandy Hook Shooting: "Obama Spoke for me and every American"
Now these statements can all be categorized as a candidate evolving, so what will it be next year?
posted by terminator1 @ 6:58 AM
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When you have nothing better to do, fix a problem that doesn't exist.
In the mean time, ignore the "battery box", the workers at the light plant doing everything except what is in their job title, ignore the money being thrown in the AMP-Ohio hole, ignore the streets where the sewers are caving in.
Yep, let's worry about the idea that someone might bring up more than one issue in their three minutes before Council.
That will fix everything!
3:38 I had forgotten about the Battery Box building as well as the project. It's not hearing about the idea's it's they just not having any solutions . So as we have bath tub races to get the peoples minds off of what's happening here.
This city forgot a long time ago that it's about the citizens. Three minutes; one topic...what a load of garbage. Whose idea was this, and who approved it? Do we know? Anyone who agreed to the one topic needs to be recalled. Or fired.
So the Council continues their dictatorial ways by controlling how and what the tax payers can and can't do in their presence? Unbelievable! This bunch should consider themselves fortunate that no one lobs rotten produce at them. What's next? We'll have to back out of the room after addressing them whilst keeping our eyes lowered so as to not make accidental eye contact with their hignesses?
While we're on the subject of bad Council decisions, I would be interested to know the rationale for lifting the ban on open burn fires. Our Council apparently think it's fine to force everyone, including children with asthma and older folks with COPD, to involuntarily breathe in the fine particulates generated from wood fires which have been proven to cause lung disease, the number one cause of death in Ohio.
They have made no provision for days where ozone levels are high, nor extended periods of dry weather, nor do they care if every other house on a street decides to lights fires all day. Theoretically, you can be exposed to these pollutants for 24 hours straight, 7 days a week and not be able to do a single thing about it. The Council placed the burden on the people who like breathing smoke free air and the onus is on them to document and make a complaint against their neighbors. I wonder if the Council would object to anyone smoking in their chambers or their homes or personal vehicles.
I wish I could attend the Council meetings, however I work later hours than most people and I'm also hopeless at public speaking. Thank you again for being a burr in their collective sides.
5:15 Nothing is set in law quite yet. Council scheduled a 'work session' to discuss these changes.
If these changes are not your cup of tea, let your council person be made aware. These council procedure's were brought up by councilman DeLeone
6:57 I've been to council meeting and I don't ever remember the subject of 'open burning' ever brought up? can you point me in the right direction.
The state of Ohio made changes last year to their administrative code to allow wood fires such as barbeques and bonfires. Cities and towns have the option to continue to restrict these things, however Painesville opted to take the low road and allow them with little to no provision as to how they can control pollutants on days when air quality is already poor or in cases when people in proximity to these recreational fires suffer from lung disease. I have an appointment I have to leave for but I will update this post later tonight, if that's okay.
I have a friend who works for the City, who told me the one topic rule is referred to [off the record] as the Tony Torre Rule. Council and the Administration are annoyed at Mr. Torre showing up with a laundry list of petty complaints. He no sooner finishes one topic and responds with "and another thing"... Well shame on Council and the Administration! Mr Torre is a Painesville Treasure. We need more Tony Torre type residents!
8:34 Agreed Although they all smile at him? Humm?
8:09 I learn something new everyday!
Bonfires in the city of Painesville. That could be a problem.
Please tell us more, when you have the time.
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