"TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT" eagles
Are we at the limit?
I took a commenters advice and called our Fire Chief with some questions concerning the operation of our fire department. Chief Mlachak was very interested in the questions I was asking along with being very direct in his answers. Knowing his position he was more informative then I thought he would be.
I had some questions I had for him and also what I believed some of the answers might be. First off I believed the Fire Department was staffed by nine firefighters on all three shifts. Seems we have only 25 firefighters and when you take in vacations sick leave on the night and most times we only have six per shift. This for the busiest station in the county that does over 2,000 EMS runs a year. Remember many times the runs could overlap leaving the station empty.
When I asked the chief how many of the runs were "taxi" calls to Tri-Point ? The chief feels 25% were calls that shouldn't need an EMS unit. Many people use the emergency room as their primary care service, along with believing if they arrive in an ambulance they receive faster care.
I questioned Chief Mlachak about increasing staffing using part-time firefighters. With his budget approved by council he is only allowed one part-timer per shift. A full time firefighter cost the city approximately $100,000 a year he claims he could have three part timers for the same amount. Starting rate for a part time firefighter in Painesville is $9.85 per hr. other Lake County communities pay as much as $15.00/$16.00 an hour. So why would you even think about applying in Painesville.
Now the past levy we past last year provides the fire department with funds for equipment and upgrades only. At the same time the previous departments budget for equipment goes where?
I agree with the chief that the purchase of Tower 2319 is a useful added piece of equipment for us. Remember it's only a stop gap with a maximum life of ten years. At that time Painesville-Concord hopefully have the financial resources to purchase a new truck with the going price of $1,000,000.
Maybe the chief realizing the truck was needed and painted a prettier picture of the truck? and let's face it what was anybody expecting with a 23 year old truck. In hindsight maybe the chief could have played it safe and told the administration your asking for miracles for a piece of equipment like this at $100,000 ?
Something to remember all departments rely on mutual aid. As a fire is called in dispatching calls for automatic aid to all nearby fire stations. The fire crews are sent out to the fire and the fire department on scene can ask for mutual aid or tell responding fire departments they aren't needed. Painesville sends four firefighter and one truck at the same time our fire department calls in off duty firefighters until the situation normalizes. Fire insurance rate being kept low because with mutual aid you can get the amount of firefighters and equipment to a fire in a reasonable time.. 14 firefighters in eight minutes.
Truth be told the administration should budget the part time firefighters and raise there wage to what is reasonable in Lake County. Something tells me they will get push back on this but what is more important than the safety of our community?
Seems what I learned most of all is our fire chief is born and raised in Painesville and loves the place. But remember he answers to others. He cares, give him the proper resources.
Knowing the numbers it seems rather important that all first responder be trained in first -aid six people can't be everywhere.
24 Comments:
Maybe the chief could park a fire truck at the power plant put 6 firemen there and call them plant workers? The excuses that council has for keeping that workforce there is laughable. Money spent in all the wrong places should have been your title.
I have known the Chief for a very long time.
We do not always agree on things but I have to remember that he is just one piece of the puzzle. When his budget has no money, what can he do?
I have to thank him for taking the time to meet with you and respond to your questions. A lot of times people in his position would just hide. To me, it shows he cares about getting the story right.
I've known the Fire Chief for a long, long time and it appears that he spoke honestly, truthfully and sincerely. He's a stand up guy. I am surprised that he spoke to you at all. The "Carson gag rule" is fact not fiction. I predict Mark Mlachak will be gone by the end of the year. Too bad. we need more division head like him.
Gag rule? Look I asked for answers to any number questions any resident should be ble to ask. Not once did the chief speak ill or critized the administration or council. That said if you can't speak to a resident you have no transparency.
These facts seem should be coming from council but they seem more interested in whatever? Plaques?
Question: Did you know all this?
Remember the Putin comment? Well, that's your new CM you are so proud of. NO ONE should get fired over answering a residents questions. As for part time firemen? Just like PD not wanting AED, the firemen DONT want part time people. It takes take away their overtime. That's their bottom line...Money.
12:42 Honestly, Truthfully, Sincerely? I don't believe that will get you fired. If it does then we got bigger problems than a 23 year-old fire truck.
I will ask about the AEDs, as well as the overtime. (At a public council meeting) Your telling me the unions control all this?
I can appreciate the problems the Chief has had with the purchase of this truck. Makes me glad that it is him and not me.
Now the real purpose of this post is to ask how the City will be any closer to being in a good financial position for a truck purchase in X years?
Is money being set aside for buying a truck at that time?
We both know the answer and I would bet a years wages that the answer is NO.
The purchase of this truck bought us some time but, with that time, some decisions have to be made with regards to how to buy a new truck in the future.
These are the decisions that Council needs to address now.
One wouldnt say the unions are controlling it, but they really have ways of making things bad for the other employees. This should be a form of harassment if you work with each other. If you are harassing others it should be insubordination, either way there is no place for bullies in the union.
I dont understand 9:53 comment. Why would you park a truck and firemen there when this story is about lack of people to go around. Maybe you meant the light plant workers should be helping the fire department? That makes more sense than what you said.
I get the impression from reading here that there is a full crew of how many people at the light plant, on standby in case we need power. Am I reading correctly? And thats a big rub, right?
5:16 Best guess between 25 to 32v people work in the power plant doing God knows what? I'm not talking about linemen people producing power that Isn't being produced thank your former CM and Council-President for purchasing so much off site power. Now I have one department understaffed and running crews to death and another doing what? Now don't tell me it's comparing apples to oranges because the ratepayers of Painesville are paying for both. In the citys defense they claim a 4 million dollar check or saving. Show me the check.
No private company can run a high end welfare operation like this. Yeah it's a big rub.
3:22 Maybe 9:53 will enlighten us?
if the safety levy had passed in 2005 the city would have had the funds available for the truck purchase already. and the funds are being put aside for future purchase of truck. Electric personnel are working all over city hall and other places in city. They are not just sitting at the plant. Please stop implying that they just set around.
1:36 You mean the 3.9 Charter Amendment that would have let taxes increase every year without the vote of the people. If that had passed, thank goodness it didn't. The city has to learn to live within it's means . They want champagne on a beer budget.
Well I don't see them and whatever job,or jobs they are doing it's not at laborer's wage put at electric plant wages. That department is a total failure.
If memory serves me, a levy just recently was passed. Fire and road, not police. Fire was set for equipment not personnel, does that help 3:o7? If not, go back and find what was on the ballot residents voted Yes on. And 1:36 gets what the red truck post said. Many of you people here dont always have a clue before you shoot your mouth off and thus the potential to get city employees fired. (remember the past police chief and 2 building department employees)
6:39 Go on do tell us?
All I know is that the problems here didn't just happen overnight and the current dysfunctional council adds little to correcting the problem. Plaques, studies, data, management classes won't help until council leaves the safety of their position and starts addressing problems.
When mommy says no - go ask daddy.
"Well I don't see them", So just because YOU don't see them, does that mean they don't exist? Are you doubting this person? The only people you see are the ones doing their job and you go blow the whistle on them trying to get them in trouble. Yes, the electric guys are doing labor all around this city, cemeteries, (remember how you pitched fits about the conditions of the cemetery)painting, general repairs, all work that would not get caught up thanks to them. Just because you don't see everything doesn't mean it's fiction.
5:13 Maybe I don't see them I'm not looking in the right places? Oh, they exist and how honorable they are working in other departments in the city. Let's take cemeteries, lets cut grass/ Now if the city is following state law when they work in other departments they must be paid by that department and not by the electric department. The good workers don't mind working in another area because they keep their electric department wage scale meaning we probably have the highest paid lawnmower employees in the area?
Sorry feel bad but if the job they had is eliminated by the former city managers policies. Maybe you should go to her for relief?
We need a mayor...want to change the charter and run? You are a wealth of knowledge.
11:47 Maybe we do? I'm not qualified and it's not really any part of my bucket list. Always looking for that young soul that I could get behind. We are really in trouble!
Term, did you read this article about the wreck in Munson? A ladder truck got hit, and the article states that it is ten years old, which is about half the lifespan of that type of truck. My guess would be 23 years is past the lifespan.
http://www.news-herald.com/general-news/20150306/charges-pending-after-munson-township-fire-truck-crash
Why are we in trouble? What makes you say that? What has changed recently to put us into this trouble?
11:39 Yes the expected life of a fire truck is 20 years. Age is it relevant? How much usage in those 20 years? The main problem in a vehicle such as a fire truck is parts availability. Boardman Twp. had a rule 20 years and your replaced. That's pretty much how we ended up with this truck. What many of you might have missed that this truck is just a stop-gap for the next eight when Painesville-Concord will purchase a new replacement vehicle costing each community around $500,000. (read the minutes) We must only hope this vehicle takes up to 2023.
5:42 Really look around 20 plus years of neglect. Trouble? largest downtown employer left. Lake East. Pretty much all commercial business left the city. What really can you purchase downtown. Another big employer left Coe Mfg. never mind CORE. See any real interest in all the vacant land downtown? Interest as in money being invested. A public utility that no longer is used at what cost?" (power plant) Plus the cost of all of them isn't what it's cracked up to be. A school system making strides but not enough to entice young families to move here. Community Development? Are you kidding me. Look at the streets in town that's pretty much tells you the story. Plus the fact if you believe the overlay on the streets will last a long time ask someone who knows. Some of all this is self-inflicted by the past administration and now the State has cut funding to communities such as Painesville. So it seems to get anything done we have become a begging community. Trouble yes we have trouble. And don't anyone expect to turn this around in a few years.
No amount of Data, Process, Plaques, wishing and hoping will change that.
Congratulations 11:39 - you may be able to do Common Core math. Yes, 10+10=20 Right On bub! So does an additional 3 years really make that big of a difference? Especially when you consider just how much they get used? And how they get the best of care? Do you wash your vehicle everytime you put it away at night? Those vehicles are well cared for and sometimes one can just get a lemon. For gosh sakes, Get Over It.
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