Wednesday, February 11, 2015

"BROTHERS IN ARMS" dire straits

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The City of Painesville is unique. That is, it is different from most cities where the focus is on providing basic city functions/services for residents such as police, fire, and building inspection services. It's different because it preforms several utilities functions, specifically electric, water, and sewer unlike the major Lake County cities around them such as Mentor, Willoughby and Eastlake. Many people seem to feel that these utilities are like the crown jewels and should remain under city control (sacrosanct). Perhaps that is true. But shouldn't the governing body of Painesville ask whether this sacrosanct view should be investigated? Shouldn't Council ask the Administration whether these utilities add value to the city? And, should council ask whether the city has the operational expertise and logistical to run these utilities? And, do these facilities have operational economies scale  to be run more efficiently and effectively as a (non-government controlled) utility firm? Further, would the assets of these utilities (customers, plant, equipment, revenue) and liabilities (wages, pension liabilities, healthcare liabilities) be of greater value if they could be sold at a profit and the funds used for basic city functions/services?

The question on the table is whether Council has seen an independent economic study done answering what is the value and it's resident's to continue to preform the utility functions or, alternatively, sell these utilities and possibly be able to use these funds for other purposes, such as basic city functions/services? That is, could funding from a sale of these assets/liabilities be used for police, fire, road and other infrastructure improvements over a substantial ( to be determined via study) number of years? 


Great questions I've always wondered why in a county of 230,000 people one municipality with 20,000 people had to have their own electric, water, and sewer utilities? Now if the City Administration can prove we as a community are saving money be owning and operating these businesses well fine. But what I have watched over the last fifteen years I'm not so sure we have a bargain. I do believe an independent economic study should be taken. After AMPGATE, as well as funding a $9,000,000 water line with the contract with Concord Twp. up soon are these purchases wise?
I guess my question comes down to is how important are these utilities and are they being run like our roads and street's?

Oh, the word sacrosanct? meaning, to important or valuable to be interfered with. sacred, untouchable, inalienable.

8 Comments:

At February 11, 2015 at 3:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just my opinion but if the services can not be provided at less cost than others around us receive, then we should not be in the business of providing them.

Government is supposed to provide services for us, as a group, that we can not get individually. Examples are police, fire, rescue, roads, and such. The electric, water, and sewer utilities can be supplied in other ways. If those ways are less expensive, that is the way we should be heading.

We have a "power plant" that produces little or no power at all. Why??

Having our utilities is somewhat of a tradition. However a tradition might just be something that has been done for a long time without reason or logic. Maybe it is time to look at the utilities we have, in a logical manner, and see if a better method is available?

 
At February 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Goody, another study. Who's gonna pay for that? ANd why stop at just utilities lets consolidate all...streets, rec dept. police.

 
At February 11, 2015 at 6:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't need a study a fool can see how poorly everything is run around here. If the city can't even layoff nonproductive employee's at the electric plant what makes you think they have YOUR best interest at heart? This blog has opened many eyes to what takes place around here. I would out source the whole mess.

 
At February 12, 2015 at 3:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:51 Hold on there buddy....
You can't farm out Police & Fire.
History shows it's not even wise to farm out police dispatch to the county. I'll bet you didn't mean Police & fire, did you? Just Electric and maybe water?

And by the way, it TERM's opinion that Painesville is poorly run. Not everyone's.

 
At February 12, 2015 at 5:07 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw a post somewhere on your site from someone asking why the electric workers can't be put to work in other areas such as plowing sidewalks and garbage pickup. That sounds good to me. You were going to have a response for him. I don't think I caught it. Is this feasible?

 
At February 12, 2015 at 7:48 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

3:20 The last administrator dragged this city into a hole. No going out of the way for business, hospital, even other government bodies, no needed infrastructure upgrades. Sorry the city was run poorly.
6:07 Could be feasible, but would it be practical? Different unions in this city protect their turf. How much should a guy cutting grass make? Are they trained to plow snow? Brings up a fact that I witnessed someone from public works cutting grass at the power plant last summer while employee's there looked on?

 
At February 12, 2015 at 8:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry this bunch can't even take care of traffic lites as well as street repair. We let them run million dollar utilities? Madness
Give Cobblestone 25 years it will be a major slum.

 
At February 13, 2015 at 3:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you have to do is drive down state street to see how poorly run this city is. You have to swerve left and right to dodge all the potholes

 

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