"WASTING AWAY IN MARGARITAVILLE" jimmy buffett
Or a song title "WASTING TIME IN PAINESVILLE"
Well as you can see Painesville's administration has found who is to blame for the issue of trains and homes.
The true culprits well are Ryan Homes, the Painesville Planning Commission as well as the former administration.
First best guess? This letter will be filed in that circular filing cabinet by everyone it was sent to.
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March 10, 2014
Mr. Mark Smith
CSX Train Master
RE: Locomotives adjacent to Heisley Park Subdivision, Painesville, Ohio
On behalf of the City of Painesville and its residents, I am expressing my extreme displeasure in reference to the recent events on March 8th and 9th 2014. Three different trains have been idling and have have been using the Heisley Park residential development as a staging area over a two day period. As a result, the City has serious safety and health concerns about the wellbeing of our residents.
In the past, we have addressed this issue with CSX on at least five (5) separate occasions sine June 2013. As suggested by Mr. Stevens, we have encouraged residents to contact 877-TELL-CSX to report problems. The first response we received to the occurrence in January was that this was a weather related issue. The City of Painesville was assured that CSX wants to be a good neighbor and every effort would be made to eliminate the need to use this residential neighborhood as a staging area. We were told that if there was another emergency we would be informed in advance so that we aware of the situation.
The recent events lead me to believe that CSX is not concerned with the safety and wellbeing of the citizens of Painesville. I have instructed the City attorney to vigorously pursue all available options to ensure the safety of our residents. I have strongly urge CSX to move these trains immediately and to find an alternate site away from a residential area.
Sincerely
Anthony J. Carson Jr. MPA
City Manager
cc: U.S. Senator Brown
U.S. Senator Rob Portman
U.S. Representative David Joyce
Ohio Governor John Kasich
Thomas M. Tumbry, Federal Railroad Administration
Kurt Princic, EPA-NEDO District Chief
Frank Kellogg, LCGHD Health Commissioner
Brandon Stevens, CSX Community Affairs & Safety Manager
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Now I don't blame the city manager for sending this letter. When it reaches CSX in Indianapolis it will probably bring humor to that office. First CSX is not "staging" trains on the southbound siding by Heisley Park. Trains are in the siding to let higher priority trains pass. Railroads like every other business have priorities. UPS trains on CSX are a #1 priority, not a mixed freight. The two train I observed did no car switching in the Painesville yard. I viewed two of the trains and took numbers off the engines CSX and BNSF engines were some on the latest engines to be built by GE Erie ES44DC which meet the latest Tier III polution regulations.
Heisley Park residential area used as a staging area? I remind you those tracks were there 100 years at least before anyone dreamed of Heisley Park.
If the city manager is so concerned about the welfare of Heisley Park residents he would bring in the former city manager and administrators, the developer of Heisley Park along with the Planning Commission and ask them what was the thinking here? I was even laughed at at a council meeting when I brought up the safety issues and noise issues at a council meeting. " we have a bigger issue in Painesville with cars hitting houses not trains" I guess you can say who's laughing now?
Presently you have picked the wrong scape-goat and CSX will bite back if they have too.
posted by terminator1 @ 11:08 AM
27 Comments
27 Comments:
Never Happy are you? They are trying, doing something at least. And all you do is complain,still.
If Carson didn't live in Heisley Park, that letter would have never been written, let alone sent.
Guaranteed.
6:16 Just doing his job.
3:42 Wasting time and energy? To do something is to blame the people who caused the problem. Remember CSX didn't go to Heisley Park. Heisley Park went to CSX.
Something else I will soon be complaining about? Painesville and Concord will have a meeting to discuss there JEDD agreement. Guess who will represent Painesville at this meeting?
I find it amazing that people buy houses with RR tracks immediately north of them and then complain about train noise.
BTW, those are sidings (which allow for the passing of trains or the storage of cars), not a classification yard as Heisley Park residents seem to think.
If you want to see a yard, go to to Lexington and Stage Ave. Oh wait, the people who live there have always had a yard nearby and they don't have anyone in City Hall to fight for them.
So sad.
Term 6:30: Please, please, oh please tell me it is not the wicked queen who not only left all the honey pots empty when she made her hasty exit, but also left the kingdom owing millions of honey pots throughout the land -- so many, in fact, that it will take the kingdom 50 years to pay them back.
I'm just suffering from flashbacks, right? Please tell me it isn't so.
Sorry Heisley Park, you had to be blind not to see the train tracks there when you bought your home. This is like the people who bought homes along I90 and SR2 then complained about the noise, so the state spent millions on those noise barriers. This is a joke. I hope trains run day and night through there.
6:15 Why are you so angry to people who's only crime was not checking into something first?
7:51 That's what a Concord resident mentioned to me. It seems the Queen has not completely abandoned us? And with all the high priced help around here presently. Look I was told it concerns an electric deal. You know you just can't make this stuff up. The very last person in the world I would want to see negotiate an electric deal.
If this is true we deserve everything that happens to us.
Would a city official please move near Atwells so maybe we could get at least a letter written? Or will it take a class action lawsuit? I think it would be less expensive for them to just be a decent neighbor and add soundproofing
Some of you people are really tough on others. Look to clarify, I sympathize with the homeowners at Heisley Park as I visited last week I realized how close those railroad tracks are to the homes. Look the question shouldn't be why those trains are there, but what possessed Ryan Homes to build them and Painesville to approve them?
Those people made a hefty investment and relied on the builder as well as the city to look out for them. I guess the thinking was the builder and the city knew what was here and it wasn't something they had to worry about. Even myself although I made complaints to council on how close the homes were to the tracks until you see it after the homes were built well seeing is believing.
A present council person when I asked about how close the homes were to the tracks at Heisley and Asper Park , I was told it a free country and people should be allowed to choose where they live.
Many of you seem on many of these issues angry about some of these issues brought up here. hoping trains run 24/7, NO WALL!
Dwarf claims I'm never happy? Well in cases like this how can you be happy when people are suffering?
1:16 Ward III councilman DeLeone is well aware of the situation and is in conversation with the owner. He has expressed to me that the owner wants to correct this situation.
No one forced anyone to buy these homes close to the RXR tracks?
Who is suffering? Them or you? Again, and as others said DON'T buy a home by RR tracks. The tracks were there first. You cannot blame the builders or the city. Blame the home owners for not doing their homework first.
6:39 Nobody? But since the city wants to involve itself in zoning, planning, ordinances building permits and the like. They have some responsibility in making sure builders are reasonable in where the put house. The homeowners have accepted some of the blame. Again Painesville quantity instead of quality.
"6:16 Just doing his job."
So maybe if he lived in the area of W. Walnut and Magnolia, instead of writing stupid letters to CSX, he'd make sure the road got paved?
Painesville: the new Calcutta
ADAM I understand your position.
We have had city inspectors on our property who signed off on faulty work. It's a nightmare and we ended up in court. That was my first lesson on living in Painesville. Silly me, I thought the city inspector was there to make sure the ordinances were followed, protecting home owners and residential property. Since then I have learned a few thing about construction, electrical, plumbing, drainage etc. Its been a journey! Zoning is supposed to do the same for the city. It failed. Some of those living down there should go over to the Soil and Water Conservation District office and find out what else is on your property. I do belive it's buyer beware. CSX has been there since I have been in the city. Nobody had any business building in that allotment. But now it's done..... Sump pumps, train tracks, what next locusts? Those trains run the commerce of the country down those tracks, ask Warren Buffett. I don't believe tax payers should pay for a concrete wall. It's yours the minute you signed the deed, you are responsible for your property and your well being. Personally I would rather see a street paved for the greater good of the whole community. The wall would only serve a few wealthy home owners. I am sorry you purchased a home there. My question to you? Would you do it again? Or what would you do differently if buying a house in Painesville?
It is odd that you purchase a home on the west side your neighbor is NS and your neighbor to the north is CSX to competing railroads and THAN complain about trains. The city should have had the wisdom, if the builder and the buyers didn't possess the common sense that this wasn't a good idea. Now who's involved? The city and a third party that had no say in the matter?
It would be interesting reading to find out what you built your home on top of.
At Monday nights meeting a large quality of oil was found I believe in Shamrock Park with no idea where it came from.
It would be interesting to go back and read the minutes of the zoning committee and city council at the time this was under consideration. If they were given the information, all the information and still made the decision to allow Ryan Homes to build on the property not sure how that shakes out but it's water over the dam at this point.
You can go back and forth about the trains, residents at Heisley Park should concern themselves with not's running along side them but look what your sitting on top of?
The place is loaded with old brine wells left over from the Diamond.
Look up the Corp.of Army Engineers reports as well as the Fusrap and EPA.
Someplaces should have never been built on,sorry.
You think you have trouble with train traffic? Wait until the bridge is completed.
Heisley Park residents, ever hear of Lake Underground Storage? You are sitting on a time bomb. Literally. The trains are the least of your worries. Love Canal.
Where is Heisley Park, please.
Heisley Park was land annexed from the township west of the city. You reach it via Jackson St. just before the NS railroad crossing bounded on the north by CSX railroad and Diamond Center Drive to the east.
Where is shamrock park?
Shamrock Business Park or whatever they presently call it is bordered on the east by RT.44 on the south by the CSX track west Mentor (Home Depot) north RT.2. Now the next question will be Lake Underground Storage has a Blackbrook address yes that's where the office was.
Here is a great website for anyone who has concerns about buying a home in Painesville or the surrounding area.
http://www.homefacts.com/environmentalhazards/Ohio/Lake-County/Painesville.html
Why someone would buy a home without researching is hard to figure, but I know it happens.
It shouldn't be the duty of the people buying a home to check and see if there is toxic waste, etc. on or around the land. You would think that the builders and the city would have that duty and take it seriously, and most people assume that is the case, because it should be.
Thanks for the information on where to look it up if you want to do research before buying, however. Could be valuable information.
The Queen will do what she wants and she will take charge! she is respected in the community you are not. term if she is the Queen you are the JOKER! leave her alone and stop with the electric stuff already you are a pest!
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