Saturday, August 17, 2013

"CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT" rolling stones

Last Thursday I sat in on a Board of Zoning Appeal Meeting, I also try to make Planning Meetings also.
The people who serve on these to Boards are the ones the city should be most thankful of.
They as a group spend more time on an issue and far more discussion than even the City Council.

Last Thursday BZA meeting had one of my favorite subjects on the agenda. "A Fence". Before I tell you the story this one item fence took for over an hour to decide.

First the Fence (two ) run along the owners property line on the east and west side at the height of six feet. Now Painesville ordinance says only a fence of three foot should be allowed in the front of your house. There is no fence to connect the fence on the left to the fence on the right.

The reason for the two fences was that she cared for a rescued F.B.I dog and she wanted his 'sight' line cut down? As this dog is very possive and territorial. Now my former employer also rescued the same type of dog. Parent's should wish their children listened to them as well as that dog did. He didn't need a fence, nothing only his voice command. I watched as as many as four dogs run down the street and the dog never moved without his command.

Next the resident explained that the house to her east has been unoccupied for over two years, Also the house on her left had a neighbor that she claimed they weren't getting along with to well. That claim's her dog had bitten the neighbors dog. After I listened I felt she had not given good reasons to get a variance. It wasn't the dog, it seemed to be more about her surroundings The BZA agreed and the request was voted down 3-2. End of story let's all go home. No, next city attorney James Lyons brought up a solution that maybe if the resident agreed to some compromise of 4 feet for section one, 4 feet for section two, and 3 feet for the section nearest the sidewalk was a solution. I must question why he was giving any advise in the first place but he did.

Oh, I forgot one thing the resident never applied for a fence permit for this fence, or the one in her backyard erected fifteen years ago. Neither did the person who built the fence. He should have known better.

The moral to this story is simple. Screw getting any permit from the city, if you are caught throw yourself at the mercy of the BZA chances are if that won't work you can expect a city attorney to plead your case.

I have seen many issues such as this come up in the past couple of years. Once a garage was erected improperly, another time I watched a person taken to court for not rebuilding a torn down garage, and than another person allowed to erect a metal shed you can purchase at Sear's rather then build a new garage. I for one come away from these meetings wondering what just happened.

Now in this case the BZA did what was asked of them and even after the ruling the city attorney was looking for a solution that in my eyes confused the members of that board.

Again these people give up their time to serve on these committee's why have them at all if a city attorney or city manager can change things?

Monday's Council Meeting will be asked to define "What is a Family" anyone want to bet the planning commission spent more time and asks more questions than council will?

8 Comments:

At August 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whilst you are promoting the screwing of permits, might I suggest the garage sale permits too. There are so many garage sale signs around this town, on tree lawns, phone poles (a big NO-NO). Why is it the police can't see them and take them down? There was one on the corner of Chestnut & Cedarbrook where half of it blew off into the street and there it stayed while I made a round trip to Mentor and back. (May still be there) It is my understanding the police are to remove the signs then speak to the person responsible for hanging it. Guess there were no police patroling the Cedarbrook allotments all weekend?

 
At August 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

3:35 Is for the most part thing 'happen' after 5:00pm on Friday. ( everyones gone) I heard no mention of a fine or even if that resident needed to now get a permit? I love how some people follow the rules and seem to get screwed and others do as they please and for the most part get away with it.
Now the yard sales,really you need to get a permit for a sale of some of the things you want to get rid of? Talk about a waste of energy and time. Look I would rather the police do constructive things checking homes, speeders than playing Barney Fife over yard sale signs.If it bothers you or even me, rip it down and throw it away. Sorry My greatest wish for Painesville was that our biggest concern was yard sales.

 
At August 19, 2013 at 12:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree there's bigger problems than yard sales but it is just another example how rules are broken. There's a couple houses that I know of that have a perpetual yard sale. I'm sure that's not allowed, but for some reason there's a blind eye when it comes to any kind of warning let alone citation. I just give up. This city is beyond repair with the mentality that has been allowed to go on here for so many years.

 
At August 20, 2013 at 7:01 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

12:06 Agree. Again it must come down to who you know, I can't figure any other explaination can you?

 
At August 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our former neighbors were the kind to have a sale every weekend. They went to other sales then turned around and sold them for a higher price. For that reason I am glad they are tracked by permit. Now, whether one has sales without permits is another story as is the stinkin signs I mentioned. If there are restrictions on signs, then the police should be the ones taking them down and handing them to the offender. Perhaps even noting for when the want a permit again-NO. You can't follow a simple direction -No Sale For You.
As a kid growing up I remember a cop handing signs to my parents (can't put them on the phone poles EVER) Nor can you have the sign on your tree lawn or any part of it touching the sidewalk. The cops of way back knew what to do. Now, not so much.

 
At August 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

11:22 Yes there are exceptions to the rules, I see garage sales at the soame house's just about every week. Do you really believe anyone at city hall is tracking those permits? It's the weekend 80% of your work force isn't even in the city.

 
At August 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you issue a complaint, the next thing you know is the city will be citing you for some nonsense like a small crack in a gutter. But the complaint you filed is forgotten. It's to let us know that we better not issue any complaints.

 
At August 21, 2013 at 6:31 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

12:44 I have had whole neighborhood's tell me that. It must mean something.
Sorrta like they would go to those homes on Chatfield and ask if they got a permit to build a lake?

 

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