'SAY YOU SAY ME" lionel richie
Now we hear that Mr. DeLeone is against S.B. 5.
Interesting, is there a Republican office holder in the area besides Ron Young publicly supporting this Bill?
Back to signs, I have noticed many Vote NO ISSUE 2 Signs around town but only three or four Vote YES ISSUE 2 signs. Now before you jump to any conclusion as to what this post is about, let me tell you the amount of respect I have for those YES signs. Those people believe in something. They do not care if it goes against the grain of any public employee.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with the 15% of health care or the amount of contribution to their retirement fund. That being said, why is this Bill over 300 pages long? The devil is in the details.
This also could be one of those issues where the signs do not even add up to the amount of votes. People don't always do what you expect behind a curtain.
Someone mentioned to me that over 60% of firefighters in Ohio are volunteer and those rural counties and areas might care less about professional safety forces.
The urban areas might all be voting NO but what about the Jefferson’s or Rome’s, in Ohio?
Why I bring this up now is that I believe Painesville will be facing some tough economic decisions in the next two or three years. Heck, anyone can sit on council when there’s plenty of money flowing in. [money can hide a multitude of sins, ask Paul Hach]
Where will the cuts be made, how much will any department face?
I may have been at fault to bring up the sign issue. Maybe we should be asking questions like ‘will the city allow the construction of 50 new homes behind Cedarbrook between Hickory and Chestnut St?’ What kind of answer can I expect from a lawyer or a city council member?
After a city council meeting a couple of months ago I mentioned to Mr. DeLeone that the cities non- compliant zoning issues should be addressed and that those residents must somehow be protected in case of a misfortune. Mr. DeLeone mentioned to me "the city must follow the law". That is when I decided to back Mr. Tibbits instead of Mr. DeLeone.. he just seems to care more about the "City" then the residents.
Council President Hada stated that Goldberg could build in that area right now. I'm looking for a council member who will put residents before the Goldbergs of the city and demand certain things be done before even an outhouse can be built back there. I’d like to see the current residents’ flooding problems be taken care of before we start adding new residents to the mix and making a bad situation worse. We can't possibly think that we need revenue so badly that we can afford a short-sighted view again.
Tibbits and Murphy, along with Flock, have told me that the earliest and biggest cuts in city wages must come from under the "Golden Dome" FIRST… not our safety forces or employees on Storrs St. Will the other candidates also agree with this?
posted by terminator1 @ 7:07 AM
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74 Comments:
Term again you give half the truth. DeLeone's first flyer, first issue is to protect police, firefighters, and EMS. While Tibbets may also support this, it was nowhere to be found on his first flyer. DeLeone once again took the lead and now Tibbets follows. Big surprise since DeLeone has shown leadership throughout by walking the ward and knocking on doors himself (including mine) while Tibbets was nowhere to be found when someone came to my door on his behalf. I have seen DeLeone out for the last 3 months walking and talking to people. DeLeone hit that issue straight on while Tibbets is playing catch up again. DeLeone cares about us. Shame on you Term for saying otherwise.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON ISSUE 2
A YES VOTE, MEANS THAT NO CITY, STATE, COUNTY WORKER, TEACHER, NON TEACHING WORKER, WILL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THERE WAGES, INSURANCE, EQUIPMENT, CLASS ROOM SIZES, OR ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO THE JOBS THEY DO, IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT MONEY OR INSURANCE, IT IS ABOUT OTHER THINGS, TO MANY THINGS ARE IN THIS ISSUE, IT IS TO VAGUE, AND IT WILL HURT ALL OF US NOT JUST THE WORKERS.
AND I HOPE THAT MIKE KNOWS THAT THE GUYS THAT KEEP HIS HEAT, AIR CONDITIONING, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING WORKING IN HIS OFFICE AND THE COURT ROOMS HE WORKS IN, WILL BE BLOCKED FROM DOING SOME OF THE WORK AND/OR NOT HAVE ENOUGH MANPOWER TO DO IT ALL.
P.S. DON'T FORGET THE POLICE THAT GUARD HIS WORK AND THE CUSTODIANS THAT CLEAN HIS OFFICE AND
THE LANDSCAPERS THAT KEEP THE SNOW AND ICE FROM HIS DOOR.
P.S.S THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST MIKE, THINK ABOUT IT.
Term,
I know DeLeone's stance on the issue. I still do not know Tibbets' or Murphy's. Can you enlighten me? I am not asking to be sarcastic but really do not know. If you tell me to go ask them, I tried with that kid who came to my door for Tibbets. It seems your my last hope to find out Tibbets position. Thanks.
DeLeone is a prosecutor who cares about making this county, including this city, better unlike Tibbets who dedicated his career to making himself richer off this city and county.
I have talked to Mr. DeLeone too. Sorry Term but I got a different vibe. He can work within the law to fight for us. He showed he cared with his ideas. He was the first person to put it in writing about protecting painesvilles cops and firefighters. The first and only one that I know of. That was at least 2 months ago, if not longer. Why not tell us what Tibbets actually stands for instead of this mudslinging?
the yes campaign is trying to lead people into beleiveing this is about healthcare and retirement, but it cant be, I'll admit I haven't read the whole printing of the issue because there are alot of pages and I have more things to do with my time, I am a former public employee and I paid at lest that amount and thensome for healthcare, this has to be about something else in small print, and I will not vote to pass something that extensively written, hope many others will either read the whole issue or don't pass something they will not read based on tv commercials, as far as new building in Painesville how can they even concider it with all the empty homes we already have, and with all the flooding issues especially up by cedarbrook and heisley park and newell creek watershed
It would be ill advised to make any cuts to the saftey forces. From what I was told they are on pace to run approx. 4,000 calls out of one station. It would be interesting to see what other depts run out of one station? I also would like to know how many times the the city is empty on a given day due to the hospital being now in Concord and the Fire Dept respnding to so many calls?
Just because you, murphy and Tibbets don't like the administration of this city doesn't mean that is the best and first place that we should cut.
I have watched our street crews work and often wonder why it takes 4 people to cold patch holes when I can do the same thing in my driveway alone. I watched some 4 city guys putting up fence for Party In The Park this year and was ready to call City Hall and ask why it took that many people.
Any candidate that makes a statement like that before they even get the details of a job description just makes themselves sound like a loose cannon to me.
Did you ever think it isn't the job that needs cut but rather the person doing it?
9:55 It's not a matter of liking or not liking we don't presently have the funds to carry this top heavye weight at city hall. Not only Murphy and Tibbits but also Flock these three I know will hold the city managers feet to the fire. Again the half statement was made. Still looking for the answer of will make cuts at Mr. DeL city hall or Storrs St. first? Simple question. I have a feeling he cares more for the "city" then the residents.
So, TERM,has a "feeling". Well, by all means, let us lemmings just vote on TERM's "feeling".
I do not see why people keep targeting deleone on this issue. Deleone is endorsed by the AFL-CIO, one of the biggest unions in the county. He has been straight forward about his stance from the beginning that even Term knew where he stood. Someone asked about tibbets and murphy but no one is stating where they stand on this issue. Their silence says it all. Also, why isn't anyone on tibbets for having other people leave flyers without knocking that makes it look like tibbets was there. How dumb does he think us voters are? We might not answer the door but we look out to see who was there and it was not him! Again, that says a lot about tibbets, trying to trik us into voting for him...
People who support NO on issue 2 don't seem to realize that they are voting for either a tax increase or a cut in services, there is no third choice if this bill is defeated. The fact is that the county and cities have a limited amount of money to spend and if they can't manage their costs by reducing fringe costs then they will have to lay off employees and reduce services or raise taxes. The argument of those for the repeal seems to be that there are unlimited funds and that repeal will protect jobs of the safety forces. This is just not true.
Is Andy Flock alright? I drove past his house and there were 6 police cars in front?
Andy and Marge are fine. It seems neither were home and their home suffered a breaking and entering. I guess were just lucky we don't live in Mentor or Chardon?
If the people in town knew how many of these there are they would be outraged.
to anon 456am there will be cuts anyways as money dries up due to foreclosures and businesses leaving and/or closing, I'm betting yes people will say I told you so but I think it will happen either way
This again brings up a great debate issue. Tell us does Mike Deleone really believe it is safer in Painesville then Mentor or Chardon? Now to me that is a loose cannon who has no commonn sense?
Do we have any idea who is doing the break-ins? White? Black? Hispanic? Or a pretty even mix?
Hey smart a, have you seen all of the breaking and entering in Mentor
Don't look now but your 99%ers are about to be overruled by the 53%ers
The stupidity is about to end my fried!
Actually Mentor has a higher crime rate than Painesville does, maybe you should try looking up the fact before you start shooting your mouths off.
Well, Term likes stories.
Here's mine. Next Tuesday we will be shopping for another car/cars for the city. In other words, voting.
Do we buy a new car with no repair record to back it up or one that has a bumper to bumper warranty? Wish we could get one with a bumper to bumper warranty.
Or, we could decide if the old one is just serving us well and not costing us too much in repairs, to keep our old one. AMP contract comes to mind.
A third choice if you read this blog, is to buy a used car from Term's Used Cars. Will we get, as is or no warranty. No one can be certain but Term. The one problem here is that you can only buy, or vote, for the car on his lot. (His choices mentioned here.)
Let's hope the voters in Painesville at least check out the new car lots and more than one used car lot when they choose who to vote for on Nov. 8th.
I suggest you look under the hood? Will the repairs on that used car cost you more then 2.7 million dollars? There is no warranty on any of your cars mentioned above. My point is if the car you have has a bad service record why keep putting your trust in it?[ward 4]
Along with the thought if your last purchase recommended by a dealer was a bust why go back to the same manufacturer or dealer?
[ward 3]
Buy what you chose to just remember you picked it?
Hey Term, did you do a new inspection of the County Republican Headquarters? DeLeone's sign is gone, and there are just two large signs for candidates.
Term, I just drove by and his sign is still there. Good for him running his campaign his way. Leading.
Term, Yesterday I received two flyers from the candidates in ward 2. The first Hal Werner information on what he has and hasn't done. The second from Katie Jenkins telling about herself and her family. Yet no idea what to do with 'old' Painesville and "new" Painesville? Then under her picture she mentioned she is endorsed by former ward 2 Councilman Bill Horvath, Lake County AFL-CIO and the LAKE COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!
Now with all the crap you have dished out to Mike DeLeone do you have anything left for you "Katie"?
Well I don't know if your the goose or the gander? To answer your question I am deeply disapointed in her flyer.
First I will agree she comes from a great family. Will that what be what will guide her on council?
Not only will she be able to see the wonderful attributes, will she see the pitfalls already and ahead for our city?
The Endorsement Bill Horvath? It did say former.
AFL-CIO I could care. Will she be beholden to the unions for this endorsement?
Lake County Democratic Party? Really, Katie You believe you need them in this non-partisan race?
It was wrong for Mike and it is wrong for Katie. I believe Painesville council has seen it's last non-partisan race. Maybe these young guns have a point? Maybe it's time?
Reading the two flyers and if I didn't know both parties I'm sorry I would vote for Werner. Most people would be more concerned with accomplishments and goals. Not who you know.
I only hope Katie hasn't shot herself in the foot.
I noticed a sign stating Mike DeLeone claiming experience? Was he ever been elected before. What experience as a councilman is he alluding to?
Oh, my gosh. Katie Jenkins is putting former councilman Bill Horvath on her campaign literature as an endorsement?! I certainly hope that that convinces everyone that she is on Hada/McMahon/Hach's side, and nothing will be changed if she gets into office. Horvath/Hada/McMahon/Hach had such a stronghold on this city for many, many years. He was also the one that sent the letter saying that we loved our illegals here, and that we didn't want anything done about them, and then he lied and lied and lied about the letter. He used to verbally abuse the citizens and he used to turn Law Director Gurley on the citizens during the meetings to shut them up. When he was confronted over that at a "Meet the Candidates Night," he laughed and thought it was funny but, of course, we should have already known that. He was a very bad councilman, and he was very bad for this city in every way possible. He was an automatic "yes" vote for all of McMahon's terrible mistakes, and he was horrible for the morale of the citizens.
Jenkins and DeLeone are in with Hada/McMahon/Hach. There is just no doubt about that. We just cannot have that. Horvath always crawls out from under his rock in time for the elections. It was a HUGE deal when we finally got him out of office. We cannot put someone in office that these people endorse. We just cannot.
Katie...I'm about over the party endorsements in this 'non-partisan' race but really...."Wild Bill"?
And Term..you should be ashamed of yourself...how many legitimate accomplishments could you list at 30 years old? I can't hold her youth against her....how else is she going to get experience except by running.
And just what experience does Tibbets, Murphy or Jenkins have. For that matter, what experience did our President have. Didn't he get elected only to move on to a higher office. So your point about Mike is the same for all your buddies, too.
Please explain how these people have experience and Mike doesn't. Just because they are your choices? Each candidate has his own personal experience from education to job experience. Until one is elected to an office, how can anyone say they have that experience?
What makes you the experienced political commentator? Democrats are always right? Do you have a degree in Political Science? Do you know how any one of these people will vote on any issue for sure?
This all Republicans are no good thing is getting very old. Why not just say it. Your problem with Mike is that he is a Republican. Guess you think only Democrats deserve to serve on council. Eliminate choice and we will end up with no choice on any issue.
If you support someone, why not just stand by their side and explain their strong points. Don't think you could do that by the way. You would rather just just run a stealth campaign by attacking the other guy. It's funny that Rita and Joe get bad mouthed here for doing just what you do all the time. I see no difference. Don't like lies spread about your candidate, better stop with the lies yourself.
Now, jump in and claim innocent. Just because you tell a half truth doesn't make it the whole truth. Can't tell the whole story, don't just tell or insinuate things to attack someone else.
As a lake county dem I have to interject. Katie did not ask for our endorsement. While at a meeting she was introduced and someone put a vote on the floor to back her. It passed unanimously. Not because we want her to owe us, but because we want to see strong capable individuals in public office. She has run a strong campaign and has behaved in a professional manner. And she has done it with absolutely no help from us.
5:58 Katie has accomplishments and the fact that she and her husband choose to buy a home here and make a life here is worth more then 100 Bill Horvath endorsements I agree with you. Now here comes the comments directed at Katie, are you going to write fraudulent letters to Washington for the illegals also Katie? Why in Gods name she thinks that will help along with the LCDP, AFL-CIO. If you need them then maybe your not strong enough to run on your own? LakeDem Who are you? Why are you goofs giving endorsements in non-partisan races? Oh she will owe you, the AFL-CIO and probably Bill Horvath to.
8:04 No more or less then Mr. DeLeone as far as I know he has ZERO experience as an elected offical. Yet the sign gives the impression he does. Here comes the Mike clan to explain how many ways I'm wrong. Just show me where and how he has experience as an ELECT offical? More lawyer talk I guess.
Term, I don't get that he has been an elected official from his sign at all , where you do is beyond me... just more crap for to complain about I guess. Considering the fact that with what he does for a living he works with elected officials on a daily basis gives him WAY more experience than Richard Tibbetts.
I'm a Democrat, and I, too, do not understand the Democratic Party endorsing Katie Jenkins, or anyone else for that matter, in this city non-partisan race. I don't like it, and I think everyone should know better.
Katie could write that she's endorsed by Painesville PD, fire, city hall and businesses. Katie could have written that because it's true but so many people are concerned that there would be backlash from her opponent. She couldn't have named names without them possibly being attacked the way Hals neighbor has been for 20 years.
Hal will only help to drive out business
Term, again with the half truths? DeLeone has government experience. DeLeone is a prosecutor for Lake County! He works with issues at a county wide level that Painesville faces every day. His experience with government and the law is not attorney talk but just plain fact. I agree with an earlier post, instead of attacking DeLeone try talking about his accomplishments for Lake County vs what positive things (if any) that his opponent has done. A quick google search got me a lot of cases that DeLeone worked on including representing judges. If he is who judges let represent him he must be good at what he does! He works with and for elected officials every day. That is government experience! But since you are just going to post half truths I do not really expect this to get posted.
LakeDem 9:47, the fact is Katie was at the meeting to seek the Democrat support and allowed an endorsement vote. And most of all she used this endorsement on her flyer. She probably thought that in such a Democrat heavy town that this would help her. Now no matter what TERM says, this is ok, because it is the Democrats endorsing her. Different standards for Republicans and Democrats in his eyes. I am disgusted how this whole situation of DeLeone and Katie has evolved. You want Katie because she's a Democrat and the Democrats have endorsed her. And you hate DeLeone because he is a Republican and the Republicans endorsed him.
DeLeones the guy with the half truths. What position has he ever been elected to?
He works with and for elected officals?
Here's your post and again, experienced in what elected post? He made the claim not me.
It doesn't mean he's not good at what he does.
6:29 Did you even read my comment?
Same standards. I guess we are to believe Katie just happened by Democratic Headquarters?
She didn't need there endorsement period. Then how many at EITHER party headquarters are Painesville residents and voters. 6:29 People like yourself give Republicans a bad name. Please read the comments.
1:44 Are you really serious?
The fear of Hal's vendeda oooh!
WOW! I happened to be informede about this site yesterday. All over telling my neighbor about the ad in the Painesville Pride about two guys who at least tell me what they plan to do.
All I've heard is fluff from most candidates or how smart they are . Yet Hach and Delone have not expressed an idea what they plan to do. Why this city was never informed of losing money on Amp whatever is a sin. Paul I never had a reason to vote for you. Now I have one not to!
What position has Katie been elected to? Again, Term, back to the old Democrat OK and Republican BAD. Why the double standard? It's ok for you to support Katie, but why the need to hold them to different standards?
Yeah, poor, poor Katie. One poster said that Katie (sweetly) did not put her campaign sign on the person's lawn because the house was for sale, and she didn't want to keep any potential buyers from looking at the house.
And now 1:44 says that she couldn't name the names of some of her endorsements for fear of them being attacked by Hal. Is that how she intends to win this election?...by being SOOOOOO sweet that she PROTECTS people from Hal and, therefore, makes him look bad and herself look oh so good? Give me a break.
6:51 None as far as I know of. Then again her signs don't mention experience do they? Hach don't even mention it either.
To 1:44pm I'm only aware of Hal trying to get some resolution to that loud, belligerent dis respectful Jackie's bar. I think your facts are off.
Really Term? Tibbets must be in a lot of trouble with all the mud slinging you are doing against DeLeone. He has government experience- prosecutor, lakeland teacher, painesville bza board member, etc. Where is your letter to the registered republicans in ward 2 regarding Jenkins? Oh that is right, you support her so your feigned anger at party involvement does not apply. She is not running against your buddy. Your double standard is transparent! The choice is clear DeLeone (Prosecutor) vs. Tibbets (Landlord). I would much rather have someone who upholds the law over someone who make themselves rich at the expense of Painesville!
4-4-4 Really? Tibbets with an idea??? When where??? He is promising to fix everything without raising taxes or fees to us citizens. If you believe he can do that I have a bridge in brooklyn for sale!
Term you and others called the painesville pride a rag full of lies. I think you are right after reading Tibbets and Murphy's adds!
4:42 There are many ideas about wasted expense in the city. You would be surprised but then if you elect the ones you seem to be following it will be BAU.
4:33 How many stamps do you want me to purchase? If a Republican in Ward 2 wants to make an issue of that endorsement I'm behind them 100%!
4:42 Just so you know those ads in the Painesville Pride were paid for by the candidates. It was not an editorial by the paper.
I guess it might have been the first time the words written by the candidates were ever seen on those pages in the paper?
Term ???????????????????
What the hell does your 7:35 AM post mean ??????????????
3:58 Mentioned that I didn't care to much of what was written in the Painesville Pride. I never said it was a rag full of lies only that the city controled most of the articles not the advertisment. I only mentioned that those ads were paid by Tibbits and Murphy.
So wait a minute, Jenkins chooses to move back here and you gush over it, but DeLeone chooses to move back here when his wife is pregnant with their first child and you attack him relentlessly...Term, I am just starting to see what people are complaining about our double standard. Seems the worst thing DeLeone has done is run against your buddy. After seeing all the blind hatred towards him on here, I only question why he would keep going after all the half truths lies and spin up here. He must really care about this city to keep going. And I hope he does! I agree with some others on here that he is the best choice even though he is not your buddy. DeLeone's experience as a prosecutor alone better qualifies him for council over his opponent, and that does not even take into account all the experience DeLeone has.
I talked with DeLeone and his wife who were out flyering (or whatever you call it) yesterday. That was at least the third time he has been to my home and on my street. He has walked the entire ward himself and now is still talking to people and walking himself. I have never met his opponent. There was some kid who came to my door while an older gentleman with a white beard sat in a pick up truck leisurely reading the paper. I have always wondered if that was DeLeone's opponent. I guess I am one of the many voters who will never know or meet DeLeone's opponent. Maybe my vote just doesn't matter enough to DeLeone's opponent. But my thoughts mattered to DeLeone. That's what I want in someone on council, someone like DeLeone that cares about what I have to say, not some new four member voting block who could not even take the time to talk with me.
What is with all these Hal signs going up the week before? Did he just realize it was time to start campaigning? Jenkins has hit the streets since day one talking to people. She has consistently been out there walking the ward. That drive should count for something. Maybe Hal just realized Jenkins can beat him and decided it was time to get out there. Is that the effort we really want? I personally want the effort Jenkins gives because it will be the same type of effort when she gets elected. And I have been reading for a while Term, I am aware that people will start taking shots at me over this. But this four vote block nonsense about Hal and the others is just that, nonsense. I am tired of the scare tactics and just want somebody that will actually do something. That is why Jenkins is our best hope.
3:09 I never realized he moved back here? his flyler never mentioned he gre wup in Painesville.[It really doesn't matter] Katie explained her background Mike's only goes back 6 years?
3:32 I checked many people in the ward have spoken to Mr. Tibbits and Mr. DeLeone.
A resident mentioned to me that they asked Mr. DeLeone if he was for Issue 2 and he told them No but couldn't then explain his sign in GOP headquarters, along with no answer on how to balance Painesvilles budget?
Mr. DeLeone is a well respected attorney that does not mean he will be a good or bad councilman, again will the city administration or the residences come first?
The answer I received from him makes me believe the administration.
3:38: The voting bloc we are trying to stop is the Hada/Hach, etc. voting bloc, and if you think it is just "scare tactics" then you must not have been paying attention the last 20 years, or so.
2 Of Hal's big lit signs are in yards where the people don't vote, and yes Hal has been moving signs all around to make it look like a lot of people want him back.
Flames just down in flames, Ha Ha
Term,It is now time for you to close down your blog, it is worthless, just like you.
11/7/11 6:29pm Your completely blind like your voting probably was today. If that is true then he caught my eye on the corner of several streets no matter if that house voted or not. Seems like good campaign strategy to me. You must of been one of Jenkins groupies going from house to house with your registered voters list. Your comment holds no value! And 11/7/11 3:38am Hal has been on Council 4 years and was volunteering every year for events like Party in the Park and many more. Stop taking his hard earned efforts away blogger!
8:22 Hal did not one thing he said he would, thank god he lost.....
The only reason anyone wanted Hal Werner back in office was to hopefully help stop the four-vote bloc that Hada and his gang have had for decades in this city. We can see where Hada and his bunch and McMahon have gotten us. But based on Werner's performance, and who he is as a person, if not for the situation in this city, I would have helped kick him to the curb myself. He's a real creep, who lied to people to get them to help him get into office. As SOON as he was in office, he threw them aside, and did not do one thing he said he would do. It's a tragedy that Hada still has his four-vote block, and I cannot personally believe that the citizens of Painesville allowed that to happen. BUT, since they did, and there is nothing I can do about it now, I say SEE YA, HAL. WOULDN'T WANT TO BE YA, AND THANK GOODNESS, AND ALL THE STARS ABOVE, YOU ARE GGGGGGOOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! And don't even THINK about trying to come back again. And that goes for you, too, Arlene Becks. (Has anyone besides me noticed that Arlene Becks is still calling herself a councilwoman, even though she is no longer on council?)
Yes! I have noticed that she still calls herself councilwoman and it drives me nuts.
6:52PM, I found myself reading your post and I can tell you're a real quality person with class. I'm sure Hal's supporters greatly would like to take you out to the curbside were you belong trash! You had very little to do with Hal's loss as a weakling that can only talk bad about him amongst your friends. I'm sure you embrace the cities crooked connections and evil forces that were responsible for now making Rita's job a little easier with a victory of well fought for new friends on council.
5:22, this is 6:52. Yes, thank you, I AM a real quality person with class. Thank you so much for noticing.
And if you read my post at all, you can tell I think Rita McMahon/Hada/Hach and their gang are very dangerous people to have running a city.
And thank you so much for calling me trash, too. Shows just how much class YOU have.
Let me just repeat myself in saying that under the circumstances, I am very glad to see Hal the Creep gone. He must be very upset now that he has lost his direct line to making ridiculous (to say the least) police reports.
I've got news for you, 5:22: I'm sure most of the votes that Hal got were from people who were trying to stop the McMahon/Hada/Hach, etc four-vote-bloc disaster that has been going on this city forever. Without needing his help for that, there was no other reason to vote for him, and I doubt very many would have. Whatever...it's over and he's out. Thank goodness.
I first want to apoligize for letting the comments go up that mention ANYONE as a Creep. Not here sorry, I missed it completely.
Hal served on council in to the best of his abilities and should be thanked.
I must do a better job. Presently I am only looking for profanity. I will be looking closer. Sorry to all.
Term,
Thank you for noticing DeLeone's hard work in this campaign without making any digs. From previous blogs and comments it was clear you supported his opponent, but DeLeone's hard work was noticed by many of us voters. He was at my house on three separate occasions. Had great timing as he seemed to get there about ten or fifteen minutes before lunch or dinner. He must have some super sniffer or something, haha. But seriously this young guy just worked to get elected. My wife and I always saw him out walking in all weather. While others may jump all over me on here, I am happy with the results from ward 3. Good to see hard work and even better to see hard work paying off!
To 4:40: I'm not feeling too congratulatory. DeLeone may be good for the city in general, I don't know, but not now. I think the fact that he and Jenkins got in means that McMahon's job is more secure than ever, and Hada still has his four-vote bloc. In case you didn't notice, that is what has gotten this city into trouble and has kept it in trouble for decades now. I personally am pretty shocked that the citizens didn't choose to stop them. Voting for these two did just the opposite. I kind of feel it's like the AMP Ohio deal. The citizens said it and said it, and nobody listened.
I have never seen so many winers in one place. The voters put then into office at least give them a year to see what they are agoing to do instead of making uneducated guesses.
1:23: DeLeone and Jenkins were backed by the likes of Horvath, Hada, Hach, etc. You don't honestly think that they will have anything to do with trying to remove McMahon and get us a better and more honest city manager, do you? Answer: No. Where have you BEEN for the last 20 years? Answer: If you were here, you must not have been paying attention.
Well, it's difficult for some people to look at and see the whole, big picture. Now we have more of McMahon. Gee, thanks.
5:52 Don't we honestly have to wait and see if your theory is true?
Give the new council people a chance. Within a short time we will learn whatb their purpose is.
Can anyone really believe Lori DiNallo ran for council for Painesville or what her personal goals are?
Is it wrong to believe anyone would be a foolish enough to follow blindly what two people may want them to do?
Term, this is 5:52: No, I don't think we have to wait. I can tell you right now. It's just like DiNallo and Fodor. Backed by Hada, Hach, etc., and have backed everything McMahon/Hada have said/done with every yes vote they could hurry up and get out of their mouths.
Getting DeLeone and Jenkins in office has just guaranteed McMahon's job for at least...what?...another four years? Great, I was hoping for some investigations by someone outside the city to see just what in the world has gone on here since McMahon took office, and I was hoping for some internal investigations into what in the world is going on with my electric bill, etc. (For one thing, prices going up and up and up, and now we find out there are millions in the account that none of us knew about.)
So, no, I won't personally be holding my breath. I've seen it all before. I don't know what the people were thinking. There was a much bigger picture that needed to be looked at, and it was ignored. I guess people like to lose hospitals, and millions and millions of dollars, while Hada and McMahon try to cover up the truth over and over and over.
Oh well, this is how all this keeps happening. We keep telling people, and they keep not listening and they keep voting Hada's buddies in. More of the same. I no longer think there is a chance of getting McMahon/Hada/Hach, etc. out of office, so congratulations to them. I think a lot of people who are so pleased with their votes really have no idea what they just did.
It is a shame that no one ran for the old Flock ward, he would have lost to anyone.
To 5:52/2:07, get off of your high horse....all this internal stuff no one knew about is ALL public record. Go make a public records request and you will be able to see exactly what has gone on with your own eyes. Everything Rita does is PUBLIC record, along with the money. There is no private money no one knows about. Before you speak why don't you try and educate yourself on the subject you are trying to sound knowledgeable about.
And you, 7:37, are one of the reasons that all this shifty, terrible stuff that McMahon/Hada, etc. pull will continue on for at least another four years.
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