"THE ANSWER IS BLOWING IN THE WIND" pp&m
For anyone interested in my communications with the Rally Team....here are the e-mails I sent them (and before anyone jumps on me about the capital letters...these were written when I first started using a computer and then I was told that writing like that was the same as shouting)
I can't say whether they blocked me but as you can see I did request to be taken off their mailing list.
On Fri, 6/8/07, angelo cimaglio
From: angelo cimaglio
Subject: RALLY IDEA
To: "RALLY TEAM"
Date: Friday, June 8, 2007, 5:09 PM
JUST A NOTE ON THE NEXT RALLY. HOW ABOUT PROTECTING OUR BORDERS RALLY? WE WON A BATTLE THIS WEEK, BUT ITS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THIS BILL WILL BE BACK. ENFORCEMENT OF CURRENT LAW IS A GOOD PLACE TO START. BUT WE MUST FIRST VERIFY THEN TRUST. A SMALL NOTE THEIR WERE MORE DEMOCRATS AT THE RALLY THAN YOU MIGHT THINK , THIS BILL COULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF THIS COUNTRY FOR ALL CITIZENS.
THANK-YOU ANGELO CIMAGLIO
RALLY
Monday, June 18, 2007 7:39 AM
From:
"angelo cimaglio"
To:
rsmith@plaind.com
READ YOUR ARTICLE ON THE RALLY SUNDAY IN PAINESVILLE SUNDAY. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION, WHO MADE HOLA, AND VERONICA DAHLBERG THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE LATINIO COMMUNITY IN LAKE COUNTY . SHE DOES NT EVEN LIVE HERE. NEXT TIME YOU COME TO PAINESVILLE AND ASK THE MEXICANS WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT WHAT SHE DOING TO THIS COMMUNITY. I ASKED AN IMMIGRANT, WHY THEY LET HER SPEAK FOR THEM. I WAS TOLD SHE LUMPS THEM ALL TOGETHER NATURAL BORN, LEGAL AT LAST AMNESTY, LEGALLY HERE, AND THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. SHE IS NOT THE LEADER YOU THINK SHE IS. ITS ALL ABOUT VERONICA.
THANK-YOU ANGELO CIMAGLIO
--- On Tue, 6/19/07, angelo cimaglio
From: angelo cimaglio
Subject: names
To: "RALLY TEAM"
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 9:08 PM
LJUST THINKING IF I WAS A NEWS REPORTER I WONT WRITE A STORY WITHOUT THE NAMES OF THE RALLY ORGANIZERS. ITS JUST GOOD JOURNALISM TO KNOW WHO YOUR TALKING TO. MAYBE WERE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS? YOU MAY USE MY NAME AS LONG AS I SEE WHAT YOU ARE WRITING,
--- On Tue, 6/19/07, angelo cimaglio
From: angelo cimaglio
Subject: OUT THERE
To: "RALLY TEAM"
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 8:52 PM
I HAVE ALREADY SENT MR. SMITH AN E MAIL ABOUT THE LATINO RALLY. {SENT COPY TO YOU]. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE READY TO PUT OUR NAMES 'OUT THERE' THIS IS TO IMPORTANT NOT TO, I SIGN MY LETTERS WITH MY FULL NAME, WHAT ARE PEOPLE AFRAID OF?
thank-you ANGELO CIMAGLIO
--- On Tue, 6/19/07, angelo cimaglio
From: angelo cimaglio
Subject: names
To: "RALLY TEAM"
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 9:08 PM
LJUST THINKING IF I WAS A NEWS REPORTER I WONT WRITE A STORY WITHOUT THE NAMES OF THE RALLY ORGANIZERS. ITS JUST GOOD JOURNALISM TO KNOW WHO YOUR TALKING TO. MAYBE WERE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS? YOU MAY USE MY NAME AS LONG AS I SEE WHAT YOU ARE WRITING,
THANK-YOU ANGELO CIMAGLIO
-- On Thu, 6/21/07, angelo cimaglio
From: angelo cimaglio
Subject: SUNDAYS MEXICAN RALLY
To: "RALLY TEAM"
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2007, 8:03 PM
I THINK ALL RALLY MEMBERS SHOULD PICK-UP A COPY OF THE LAKE COUNTY TRIBUNE JUNE 22ND EDITION THERE IS AN ARTICLE BY DEBBIE CORDES ON THE HOLA MARCH' GREAT READ IND, BALDEMAR VELASQUEZ THE HEAD OF FLOC, AND I QUOTE THEY CAN HAVE 'RETURN TO SENDER' WE WILL HAVE OPERATION TAKE BACK OUR LAND', VELASQUEZ SAID. 'IT IS A SILENT CONQUERING OF OUR LAND. WE ARE HERE TO RIGHTLY TAKE BACK WHAT IS OURS'. AT LEAST HES HONEST ABOUT HIS MOTIVES, WHERE WAS THE NEWS-HEARLD AND THE PLAINDEALERS ARTICLE ON THIS SUBJECT?
THANK-YOU ANGELO CIMAGLIO
On Thu, 7/5/07, angelo cimaglio
From: angelo cimaglio
Subject: ACCUSATIONS
To: "RALLY TEAM"
Date: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 4:47 PM
AS I SPEND MY JULY 4TH CELEBRATION I CANT HELP BUT WONDER IF THE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WOULD HAVE ONLY USED THEIR FIRST NAMES, FOR FEAR OF WHAT THE BRITISH WOULD DO TO THEM, I DO NT THINK THAT DOCUMENT WOULD HAVE HELD WATER? DO YOU? ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY BETTER OFF THAN IT WAS WHEN I WAS BORN. I AM NOT A FOLLOWER BUT WHEN I DO ITS IMPORTANT TO ME TO KNOW WHO I AM FOLLOWING. IF YOU ARE ALL SCARED YOU REALLY SHOULD NOT ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC ARENA, THE MEXICAN AT THE RALLY THE SUNDAY BEFORE YOURS DID NT GIVE HIS NAME BECAUSE HE WAS ILLEGAL. ARE WE ILLEGAL? PEOPLE AT THE RALLY EVEN QUESTIONED ME IF THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY WAS PUTTING ON THE RALLY? I SAID I DO NT THINK SO BUT I REALLY DO NT KNOW WHO IS. 'GRASSROOTS' TO ME MEANS LOCAL PEOPLE WANTING TO HELP ORGANIZE LOCAL ISSUES. THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE YOUR GROUP COULD HELP DETERMINE AND STOP IS LOCAL ILLEGAL HIRING BY PUTTING PRESSURE ON LOCAL EMPLOYERS. WHY NOT ? BELIEVE ME WE DO NT HAVE ANY POWER ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, WE CAN JUST KEEP OUR CITY, COUNTY OFFICIALS HONEST AND LET THEM KNOW OUR FEELINGS. AS OF JULY 5TH I NO LONGER WANT TO DEAL WITH WHOEVER YOU PEOPLE ARE I DECLARE MY INDEPENDENCE FROM SUPERMAN, ZORRO, THE LONE RANGER WHOEVER YOU PEOPLE ARE. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF YOUR E-MAIL LIST I AM 56 YEARS OLD NOT 9.
THANK-YOU ANGELO CIMAGLIO [SOMEONE WHO DOES NT LIVE IN FEAR]
Real Horrible ,Uh?
posted by terminator1 @ 9:06 PM
54 Comments
54 Comments:
CAPS FIT YOUR LETTERS,
NO NEED TO SAY YOUR SORRY........
Seems the Rally Team is now at bat? Whoever they are.
The main difference in what Term wants and what the rally team wants happens to be the ralliers want to eliminate the people and Term wants to eliminate the reasons the people come here. As long as there is someone willing to pay them for a job anything the rally team does will be in vain. They will keep coming because they have a reason too.
I never believed you said anything horrible to them. It seems they are afraid of being found out. I have no idea who they are and what there fears happen to be. I will never respect people who hide. Seems I heard a very interesting rumor of what you were up to this morning? Please tell me its true.
You know very well that you and your friend's e-mails were blocked, because you were calling people trying to get them to relay messages to them that you could no longer relay yourself.
That's not all the e-mails. What about the ones from your friend -- some of which you put your name on, too, and said you 100% agreed with?
Even without the rest of them, can you imagine that any organization would want all those e-mails and a full page one from someone who was so self-important that they thought that that is what they needed to do to quit an organization. Who would care? Talking about The Lone Ranger, etc. Give me a break. What adult would want all these communications from someone so childish? And by the way, it was all in caps and bold.
To 1:59: Have you read any of the posts? Nobody is hiding. That's one of the lies that Term tells people about the Rally Team. Go to their website. All the leaders are right there. Right from the very beginning everyone was right out in public doing rallies and speaking, etc. And you are completely missing the point. The point is to uphold our laws. If you don't like the Rally Team, who cares? -- do it some other way. To spend all this time (Term) cutting down the Rally Team over ridiculous and untrue things is pathetic. I never did see Term picketing a business himself, which is one the things he has maligned the Rally Team about.
Where are the rest of the e-mails and where is your sign?
3:50 I never called anyone to do anything.
As they use to say I showed you mine, now you show me yours?
Every email was in response to a Rally Team email.
Again where is your proof?
Geez, no wonder the damn Mexicans are taking over. Last non-Mexican to leave Painesville now known as Nuevo Leon turn the lights out when you leave, please.
Okay Term, 7:02: Since you keep calling me out, even though you know that you are lying, and now Alice (8:05) and Anonymous (8:11) on the "Council Meeting 7/18/11" post are doing the same thing, I guess I will print a little bit of one of the other e-mails that you and your friend sent. The one I will print from says that you 100% agree. I had decided not to waste anymore of my time on your stupidity, and that the people on this blog that followed and follow you against the Rally Team instead of fighting the illegals to try to save their country really weren't worth any more of my time, either.
For beginners, I was one of the people that you were calling trying to get me to relay messages from you to the Rally Team after they blocked your e-mails. It was quite appalling, since I was one of the ones in the Rally Team that you were telling lies about behind my back. I did not, however, tape the phone calls, so I cannot prove that. I did keep a copy of the e-mails, though, so here is part of one of them. (The punctuation is you and your friend's.)
..."I will say this one last time, I want to know your full names, what city you reside in, and how may I contact you by phone. As I (your friend's name), through all of my interactive political watch-dog efforts, have always attached my name and address; I do not understand why all of you remain so secretive/select a secretive committee/with secret meetings. Then all of you dictate the rules of the rallies and where the rallies must go from this point on. Don't you think that the remainer of us have ideas and should have some input?
If you are the John Birch Society - so be it. Just remember one thing; Grass Roots People work together, select reps. together, talk about current/future agendas together; and, they never hide their identities toghether. Stop proposing a dictating organization: then replying that all of us should not argue. You are the dictators and we do not need/nor want to be dictated to. Be up front and honest, and then just maybe we will totally believe and participate in your effort!!
We, the total Grass Roots folks of Painesville, have worked together for many causes within the city limits. We have defended many issues - with our full God Given names right up front. We have never hidden behind any society that hides for its purposes.
If you want the support of the Grass Roots Painesville Group, then we suggest that all of you COME OUT OF THE CLOSET."
Okay, this is me talking again. There is more that I could print. Can anyone imagine starting to set up a group to try to fight illegal immigration in your city/state/country and then having Term and his friend inundate you with this stupidity and jealousy. He was also on my phone repeatedly spewing his lies and jealousy. It was my opinion then and now that he and his friend thought they should have been consulted and given special positions and I believe that Term wanted to be the spokesperson, so all these conspiracy theories, etc., started spewing out to the Rally Team as the Rally Team was trying to get down to adult business. This wasn't the end of it, either, and Term knows quite well that he and his friend's e-mails were finally blocked because nobody would put up with their CRAZINESS and jealousy anymore. And he's STILL at it. It was sickening then and it is sickening now. And I will say to all his supporters that are still following his childish lead as it pertains to the Rally Group that if you do not want to join or support their efforts - fine - who cares? But why would you talk against them to hurt their cause? And I wonder if you went on to do anything on your own against the illegals, or was/is it just enough for you to tear down the one group of people in this town that are taking the time and effort to fight tirelessly on your behalf? We were busy people with a LOT of work to do, with two insane people at our heels doing everything in their power to destroy our group and our reputations and Term still is. I still find it sickening.
I can only speak for one person that's myself. If anyone has to go through all this just to find out who's running this group. Sorry, I don't want to be a part of it.
"Join us... here's what we stand for along without asking us any questions." I wish your group luck and again I am with you in your cause but not your methods.
I wish I had a copy of this I don't. I agree with what is in the the email., but I don't believe I was the one that sent it to you?
I would have signed it.
Sorry, I never wanted a position with your group only to see who thwe people were behind it. If that is what I am guilty of so be it. I don't even know for sure who you are? Angelo Cimaglio
Dear 1:54,
Just from the language of Term's friend in your post, I think I know EXACTLY who that is from the "unique" writing style. I can tell you I've had personal experiences with that individual. There is no way to work with that one. I know. I've tried. I feel for you. I don't blame you one bit for blocking emails from that person. I had to do it a long time ago. Term, I'm sure you didn't write that email. But be careful who you let your name get associated with. If people think the "crazy" has rubbed off on you, they will stop listening to you. Just sayin . . .
1:54 What a RANT! I see nothing in the the email but someone asking for an identity? While we're on the subject what is your identity?
If this is all you got YOU got nothing!
I understand why Term wouldn't back this group now.
!:54 you are the only one acting childish.
Angelo, I really don't understand you or the emails. You knew who we all were from the start, and if any of us didn't put our names out there in the beginning, after a few months we were all in the paper, with photos and our names beneath it. A few had their names in interviews in the paper and radio right from the start. I really don't understand you, and I am not angry with you any more. I just feel sorry for you because you really must have some kind of problem.
I knew afew of you. You had to finally put names out there because the press demanded it.
I am happy your not angry with me. You can feel anyway you want about me. All I'm guilty of is asking a question. As I have mentioned in the past I wish your group all the good will in the world I just don't agree with the methods you use. Please, remember you come here. I guess I'm banned from going to you?
Sorry I just think some of your leaders are afraid of the dark.
Term, first of all, your name was on that e-mail. It said you 100% agreed, and you are the one that forwarded it to the Rally Team. It was just a small part of the CRAZY you inundated us with.
Second of all, TWO WEEKS after the thought of the group came, we had it up and running and had our first rally on the square. It was in broad daylight. We were all there along with our faces, talking to all the people, talking on the microphone, talking to people in the press. That did not stop you or your friend. By one of the e-mails you can tell that we had had our second rally already, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS WITHIN ONE MONTH OF THE FIRST ONE, and that still wasn't enough for you and your friend. You continued the needling, harrassing, conspiracy theory junk by e-mail and by mouth, and your mouth is still going and still spewing lies.
To 11:05: If you see nothing wrong with these e-mails, then I don't think Term is the only one with a problem, and I agree with 11:32 that he has a problem. Following someone blindly right into that kind of ridiculousness is dangerous. You should really be able to think for yourself when your leader starts to go off the bend and then continues for years. Really, if you can't tell that normal adults would not want anything to do with that kind of barrage of craziness, then there is probably no sense in talking to you. I hope you have been fighting the illegals on your own, and not just ripping apart the Rally Team.
You can tell by the e-mail that Term posted on his own, compared to the partial one posted above, that it is all the same theory, insanity and stupidity. Then and now. Nothing has changed. Really, if people cannot see who he is in regards to the Rally Team, and continue to follow him in that regard and to stick up for him, then there are probably not enough words in the world to keep you from blindly following him in this area. I find that just as scary as his e-mails, and if these don't strike people as a little scary - who would want to be in the crosshairs of people like this - then again, there probably are not enough words. When people get that far off the beaten path one has to wonder. And he still continues it to this day.
The funniest part of the last e-mail Term posted that he sent the Rally Team is at the bottom where he says indignantly that he is 56 years old and not 9. Really? I don't know one other adult who would send such an e-mail to someone, let alone carry on that way in private even. I suspect that even 9 year olds would know it was foolish and "off."
Look at Term's 7/5/07 e-mail. He is telling a group that he has not helped one iota what to do. He wants them to picket companies. He continued those demands for years. Yet - he has two legs. Can he not make a sign? Is he not capable himself of picketing the companies that hire illegals? He must not be capable, because he criticized and criticized and criticized and never did picket one company himself. Not one. Ever.
I also have a question - who would give these crazy people (Term and his friend) all their personal information that they are DEMANDING. They want their personal phone numbers, etc., etc. Not me. He obviously had a lot of info, he certainly knew who I was at the time and my full name and phone number - a fact that I soon grew to regret. He certainly had their e-mail. And he did know their names. Also, even though this next point has been said over and over again, it apparantly is still not enough for Term. Within two weeks of the idea of the group being conceived, everyone was on the square in their full bodies making themselves known to everyone. That did not stop Term and his friend. Has not stopped him to this day!
Could I ask as a favor if you would Please ban these wing-nuts from the Rally Team from your blog.
Cleverly you have shown us how insane and stupid their arguement is. Yet I know from time to time they will be on this site making crazy claims.
Anyone that would tie in with this bunch deserves what they get.
Atleast publish their names and addresses so we will know who to avoid. If you don't they soon will be asking that you get deported?
Holdup rally team. Read your emails you seem to be bent on destroying your group not Term.
I'm another one of those poor souls that before I walk with anyone I want to know who they all are.Sorry thats just the way it is.
This was his horrible sin?
Again 5:19, the names and faces were all out there. The names and the faces were all out there. The names and the faces were all out there.
Go back and read the e-mails that Term posted, and the partial one that was posted by someone else. It is very clear what is going on. It is pure jealousy. Jealousy, jealousy, jealousy. Him and his friend thought they should have been asked to spearhead or represent or be a spokesperson or offered some capacity of leadership, and to their dismay, they were not even consulted before the group was formed. Go back and read the e-mails. It is very clear. It was all jealousy. Still is. So they started all the conspiracy theories and the lies and the carrying-on. And he still keeps it up today. And I have to say that what I am finding even more scary at this point, is the people that are sticking up for him even though the truth has been told over and over again. Read the e-mails. There was no truth to them, and nobody in their right minds would be handing out their PERSONAL phone numbers, etc. to these wacky, scary people. I think they are lucky that the e-mails were not handed over to the police. They had all the information that they needed - knew some of the names of people even before the group was official, and when some of the e-mails were going on, we had all been out in the square several times with our names and faces in the newspapers, etc., etc. It was all jealousy. Still is. Go back and read the e-mails.
To 5:13: You say that everyone who ties in with the Rally Team deserves what they get. If you are doing nothing about the illegal immigration problem except complain about the Rally Team like Term is doing, then we will all get a country taken over by illegals. Hope you like tacos, slums, loud music, drug cartels, beheadings, a bankrupt country. This will be another Mexico soon enough and then how proud you will be of yourself and Term. Yeah! WE didn't join the Rally Team, and we spent so much time maligning THEM, that we didn't do anything to fight ourselves. What? What do mean America is collapsing? What do you mean there is nobody left in power except for Hispanics? And what, they opened up our borders to anyone who wants to come, and they ran our country into the ground? OH. Oh. THAT'S what it was all about. I should have done something, I guess.
5:19pm, who are you? What is your name? Is there a valid reason for not posting your real name?
I think I know who Term's friend is, and I know how that person operates and how truly irrational, demanding, pushy, intrusive, and harassing that individual can be. I cannot blame the members of the Rally Team one bit for not wanting that person to have ANY information about them. It doesn't mean they on the Team were trying to be secretive or sneaky. It means they were trying to protect themselves from someone who truly could have made their lives miserable. This person desperately craves attention, is overemotional and high strung, and will not respect personal boundaries. I am sure there are plenty of even wackier emails out there that could be posted to prove my point.
I'm with the Rally Team on this one.
Sorry but you Rally Group people are the ones that are wacky, or maybe forlorn because no sane person should want to be involved with your group. If a person can't even ask who you are why would anyone take you seriously?
Again tell us your accomplishments?
Besides complaining about people who stand up to you?
Do us all a favor and be civil enough to take your rants somewhere else.
9:00 AM brings up an interesting point I haven't thought of. The group has been around since 2007 how many members did you have then and how many do you have now? Do you have reasonable growth? It not ask yourselves why not.
Illegal Immigration is in a big serious problem this area, and country has yet you seem not to be able to explain the lack of citizen support. The friend of mine you keep mentioning would have been a positive to your group and I believe she has accomplished more behind the scene then your group has screaming at me!
Jezz, All this because I mentioned that the Rally Team didn't have a booth at Party in the Park????
TERM, be specific. What has she done behind the scenes? Do you know for sure she has done anything. The rally team has done lots and you have been told in detail what that is and yet you keep saying they have done nothing. editing the news.
Okay, here's the first half of the e-mail that I posted previously. As you can see from the e-mail that Term posted himself, he is telling us that if we are afraid, we shouldn't be in the public arena, and are we the Lone Ranger, etc., etc. By the second half of the e-mail I posted before, you can see that he and his friend are screaming at us to come out of the closet, etc., etc. By the part of the e-mail I am going to post now, you will see that we have already had at least two rallies, but they are still screaming about conspiracy theories, as Term is to this day. (Again, the punctuation is theirs.) Judge for yourselves if Term and friend were being a positive to our group as Term says above.
"It was nice that you informed me and others in reference to the "nine core" individuals involved in the rallies that had a meeting. Why weren't the rest of us advised as to the time and place of this meeting? Do you think that the rest of us would not want to attend?? Many of us were a part of the rallies - wouldn't a ompromising meeting date and time, to allow all of us to attend, be a much stronger and interacting group of voices??? In this e-mail you ask for more volunteers for many subjects: if you had bothered to inform others (than the nine) you would have accomplished a major portion of a volunteer crew.
It appears again, that many of you have an agenda buy you only choose to inform a selective group in regards to your current and future activities..."
This is me again. As you can see, we have already had at least two rallies, as I said. Everyone knew exactly who we were, but that has not stopped Term, in all these years, knock off the conspiracy theories. You are one scary, immature individual, Term. If I were you, I would be very embarrassed. I remember quite vividly the lies you were telling about me at the time, too. I really do find you, and anyone who would still be following you on this issue worrisome.
And don't try to change the subject. Accomplishments of the Rally Team have been posted already on this blog. Go back and find them. That is not at issue here. And by the way, what have you and your friend accomplished? Really, what have you and your friend accomplished? I would urge Term and anyone else who does not like the Rally Team to stop the jealous/baby crap and do something on your own, or form your own group. Listen to the satisfaction he has when he is cutting down the group. He doesn't care if the country is saved or not, he is jealous of the group, he is jealous of the leaders of the group, as is his friend, and he would rather the country fail than for the group to succeed.
Keep it up, Term, I have more e-mails.
Term 9:12. In response to your "...I believe she has accomplished more than your group has screaming at me!"
Just trying to stop the lies finally. Just trying to stop the lies finally. Just trying to stop the lies finally.
Term will be so pleased if the illegals are left alone in our country to take it over. When they have accomplished their goal, he'll go around and tell everyone how HE didn't align himself with the Rally Team. He won't have any other stories to tell them how HE fought, but he'll be so proud that he didn't help the Rally Team. He can brag about all the lies he told about them, too. A real piece of work, Term. You are a real piece of work. Get out that pinata - it will be sooner than you think.
Thanks for the grin, Sean 9:42.
You know I'm just so done with you rally people. If your little group harrassed the illegals as much as you seem to want to bug me. There probably wouldn't be an illegal within 50 miles of Painesville.
I will let your posts still be on the blog. To show people how crazy you have become. Just trying to stop the lies over and over and over. I think some of you need a shrink.
TERM, 4:45PM, just to set the record straight, rally posts were only in response to your attacks on us. If you stop your attacks, we will have no reason to respond.
Term 4:45: You stop the lying, and I'll stop the posts showing the truth.
If Term's friend has accomplished anything, and maybe she has, it would HAVE to have been behind the scenes. As her hostile, accusatory, and demanding emails demonstrate, she is very lacking in people skills. Sometimes her attempts at communication are impossible to understand when she tries to make herself look smart with what she thinks is clever use of language.
One thing I'm sure she's accomplished over the years is to alienate just about everybody she comes into contact with . . . the Rally Team is better off without her. Her intentions might be good, but until she learns to get her emotions and her temper under control, she's not going to accomplish much of anything positive.
You know what, Term? On second thought, since you want to call US crazy and say some of US need a shrink, I'll go ahead and post a few lines from another one the emails. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. (The punctuation belongs to the email.)
"Will be back in a short time, on a subject that none of the nine of you will like.
Keep trucking and crying how you just desecrate your lives for the cause. We here in Painesville have already been there and done this!!!
If all of you think that you are the only individuals that have changed the Senate vote, you are mistaken. High Horse - It is called being informed and educated: of which the majority of you have not accomplished! Paranoid: Yes, all 9 or more of you have become this." ...
This is me talking again. I don't think that it is US that sounds crazy.
You just don't know when to quit, do you? Your lies have been completely and properly disputed over and over and over again, but still your mouth just keeps right on going. I'm not stopping until you do.
2:45 What's crazy is your blaming me for an email I didn't sendnyou.
I know for sure I didn't send it.
4:45 Your attack was in response to a comment that you didn't have a booth at PITP? It wasn't my comment.
Grow-up and please direct your anger somewhere else.
The reason they weren't at Party in the Park is simple. Their broke! No money, no morals!
Sorry Term, when you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas. When you say you agree with crazy, then you get painted with the same crazy brush. Perhaps you should distance yourself from your friend's nuttiness if you haven't already. Might be too late, though. Your friend has done what she does so well, scare people, harass them, and piss them off, and you're getting the blowback.
That email is most definitely one of the ones in the barrage of emails you and your friend sent. It is all the same themes and all very recognizable, as you can tell, and as you very well know. This has nothing to do with a comment about us not having a booth, and you know it. This is to stop you from continuing to tell your lies about certain people in the Rally Team and the Rally Team.
If I am to understand this someone sent the rally team an email and also forwarded it to term? How does that make him part of the email?
Gee, since Term's friend was so rabid about names and contact info, perhaps someone ought to put HERS out there, so WE know who to avoid. She sounds nuts to me.
The only names that will ever be posted of private citizens are thoses that want them here,sorry.
You want to start a group like the POC once you get organized the names are in the public domain.
To 2:45...time to give the mouse back to your mommy and daddy. When they find out that you've been playing with their computer again you will probably get grounded. Now...that's a good little kid...go take your nap.
Watch out, 9:02. I'll print more of the emails, and if those emails sound like kid games to you, you had better go back and read them all again.
I want Term's friend, since she was so arrogant about always using her "God-given name," to come on here, tell us that name, and defend the garbage she spewed. Has she got the guts to do that? I doubt it.
Why don't we leave it alone. She or no one else will give their names and addresses here and fine that's their business. They know who I am that's why we get these comment's here. I have posted all my emails between myself and this group, please feel free to judge. I no longer have contact with them and I wish they would do the same.
Angelo Cimaglio TERM>>
The number one thing for all council should be the illegal immigration problem in Painesville, it is out of control you will not get the landlords to help. They need the illegals. Anonymous
This was left on the Paul Hach letter site. It was moved over to this post by me.
Term you do know your driving these rally people crazy? They are obsessed with your blog. I know. You must be having a ball.
Term 12:55: I think what you have there with the comment you moved to this site has nothing to do with the Rally Team. The whole city is upset over the illegal problem, and this sounds like an innocent citizen asking a councilperson about the problem. Sounds like someone who is living next door to them maybe and having trouble. Even though many other issues are coming up on the site you moved it from, besides the AMP plant deal, you took this comment as yet another way to trash the Rally Team. And again, I don't think that question had anything to do with the Rally Team. I feel sorry for whomever posted that comment. It was an honest question. Again, there is a whole town here that is being taken over, and that person probably is not even a member of the Rally Team. I feel sorry for the person who asked the question, and I would have liked to hear Mr. Hach's answer to it. He was on council when they started welcoming them with open arms and he has been sitting on his thumbs while our city has been taken over. You have such a vendetta going that you denied this person their question to Mr. Hach.
Maybe instead of chastising some poor person who has a legitimate question about the illegals in this city, displaying more of your obsession over the Rally Team (that post probably has nothing to do with anyone from the Rally Team) and making immature statements about cheese and wine, you could start a new post where people in this city can voice their concerns about the illegals to those in office and those who want to be in office. People want to know why the ones in office did what they did, and they want to know what the people who are running for office are going to do about it. Since you have opened this up to candidates, and we are losing our city, people have questions - important, legitimate questions. It's not ALL about the Rally Team, Term. It's about the fact that they are taking down our city - that IS the main issue. You have this forum, so it would be good if you would use it for that also. In the end you could stop hampering the effort, and you could actually be a catalyst for saving our city. That seems like a much better way to go to me. So how about starting a new section for the illegal questions and invite the citizens and candidates to discuss the issue there.
O.K. the next post will ask candidates about illegal immigration.
Before I do here is the stock answer you will get. "Even the courts believe this is a Federal problem not a local one please contact your Federal officals for an answer."
What have they, or even our state leaders done?
Also... "Painesville would face legal challenges along with a possible civil lawsuit." [wonder if we could use some of that 10 million?]
Maybe you could make some suggestions? Also 1:52, 2:47 thank-you for posting your comment here.
How about some code enforcement? How about making it difficult for them to cram so many people into their houses? How about citing them for garbage strewn yards, loud music, and cars parked all over the place? Just enforcing existing ordinances would make it uncomfortable for a lot of them, don't you think? How about it, candidates? You are NEVER going to turn Painesville around if you don't take some aggressive action to keep it from being turned into one big barrio, which is not far off if something's not done SOON.
This is 4:10. Yes, I DO have suggestions. My first one would be to institute "Secure Communities." I'll elaborate on the "illegals" post you are going to start, unless somebody else gets to it first. As far as I know, we do not have this, and if we do not, that would be one good thing to look at.
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