"RECESSION WHAT RECESSION"
Went to Mondays council meeting, great presentation about the water system in Painesville. The Department Head explained with new equipment the department saved the city over $75,000 in electricity to run the water plant. The Dow dropped over 600 points today does the city have any plans when the cash stops coming in at the present rate? I also learned overtime is very high in the safety departments? Do we need more people? We have another plan for downtown Painesville this ones for cityscapes? A $75,000 grant plus $18,000 from the city, on top of the $85,000 spent on City Architecture already and $25,000 to the D.A.R.T. program, we do alot of planning around here. Have real concern about E.M.S. Fire, and Police response time to "Cobblestone Apartments" off of Heisley Rd. if Painesville Fire has to respond it 10 minutes to get there. Mr. Werner brought up Mentor Ave. becoming 3 lanes instead of 4. I thought we were trying to get people downtown, why not make it wider so we have a real four lane road? Watch on channel 12.
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WHAT?
Mberenis?? WOW the city manager finally answered the blog. Just add money grows on trees!
Oh my Goodness!!
Free Money, what a perpetual joke.
As we have the highest credit rating possible on our two credit cards (balances that are now below $1,000 and $1,900- with a steady payment history way above and beyond their monthly request)here is what these card companies are doing.
Send a letter that states the yearly APR will increase along with the daily % rate. If you do not choose to accept these new terms you have the right to
Opt-Out of these terms. If you so choose to do this, your card will be cancelled and you will have no rights to charge purchases nor transfer balances onto your card.
We as good credit payment folks now have to pay all of the prices for those that are in trouble with their credit purchases: I think not!
We pay more than requested and are never behind. We have not used these cards as we choose to lower our credit card debt.
Mberenis - your post sent anyone on this blog to another sight of supposed quick money/high interest scam.
Which slap-loan quickie in the city of Painesville or other community do you work and do PR for?
You picked the right city for your spam/scam. I just hope that others are smart enough to see your tactics and turn the other way.
I am going to delete the top post.
DELETE DELETE THATS ALL YOU DO.
News-Herald 12/03/08 page 2
Mentor considers $1.5M in cuts
Mentor's budget could face a $1.5million cut, including reductions in city services and employee hours. Well at least someone got the news, term your wasting your time trying to get this bunch to see the light. Highball the Von Rita Express, no problems here.
For once Ms. Becks is right, what do we need another plan for? We haven't done anything with all the ones in the past. Nice plans sorry no cash or investers $18,000 down the tube along with the fools that gave you the $75,000.
Andy Flock must have lost his mind? going after the sacred cows in town. You got a problem paying over $300,000 in overtime. Who's the damn Safety Director?
G.E.
We should be thankful that G.E. isn't running the city, we would be 10 times worse because it is clear from his generalizations that he has no clue about some of this.
1. Yes, we most definately need "Planning", This city is such a clusterf**k of buildings, uses , etc. now because the city most of you want to go back to 30 years ago had no planning. When you have planning you can control to a point what is built where.
2. Safety force overtime could very likely be the cheaper alternative to hiring more people. In todays world employee benefits in most good jobs run 35-40% of wages. For Safety Forces add in equipment, higher insurances, etc. and giving an existing employee overtime could actually be cheaper.
3. What does Mentor cutting the budget have to do with Painesville? Mentor's population is a lot higher percentage of white collar high middle class people. This is great for them in good economic times but those are exactly the types of jobs getting cut by a lot of companies. Those are the types of jobs that are gone when companies buy andd sell each other. Painesville blue collar lower income population is at an advantage right now. If the economy continues to fail we will eventually feel the pain, but we will be one of the last.
4. Becks right? Becks doesn't have a clue about 75% of the issues this city faces. I am amazed that the people of this city keep electing a person who has to have almost every piece of legislation explained to her by the city manager.
5. Andy Flock lost what mind going after sacred cows? Let me see, is this the guy that bypassed the city engineer we have and went to one in another city to find out why yards were flooding? His legacy as council person will be that in 12 years he managed to reduced the water standing in 6 yards in his ward! When is his ward going to figure out it's all fluff?, town hall meetings, a few questions get answered but what has ever been accomplished for Painesville?, nothing , in that ward its all me, me, me and Andy plays to it to keep getting elected.
6. I used to get on Term a lot, but honestly, he is starting to research more of what he sees and is by far more helpful than people like this G.E., Karen, "I wanna be council" J.T., etc.
BATMAN
"His legacy as council person will be that in 12 years he managed to reduced the water standing in 6 yards in his ward"
Has he actually even done this or just complained about it and not achieved anything? If he has then maybe he has earned those 6 votes but how does he continue to get elected by everyone else in his ward. Maybe the guy puts on a good show, but eventually they will see through it. They just need a candidate to oppose him that can show them the light.
Who would run for $6,000 a year?
Who has the time to explain stuff over and over again. You get what you pay for.
I THINK ANDY FLOCK IS DOING AS GOOD A JOB AS HE IS ALLOWED TO DO WITH THE RESTRICTIONS THAT IS IMPOSED ON HIM BY CITY COUNCIL. HE IS OUT NUMBERED BY THE 4 BOBBLEHEADS WHO SIT TO HIS RIGHT. NO MATTER HOW HE VOTES . HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE WILL HAVE A COUNCIL THAT WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER. ETHEL
"Who has the time to explain stuff over and over again. You get what you pay for."
Some people would gladly do the job for free. I would rather have people in there who want to good for the city and not just people looking for a paycheck.
"Ethel" that name is creative, good try. Andy has no more restrictions than anyone else. If you want people to vote a certain way you have to present good arguments and pursue your objective. What has he ever done? He hasn't ever convinced me of anything. If he ever says something productive or even prevents a decent argument then I might be persuaded to believe you and get on the others for not voting with him but he void of such a contribution.
Ethel,
Andy is a worthless councilman, he only helps the old people, we have been asking for help for years and get no help from him.
Friday, News-Herald page 2
Four crashes,
three people injured
Four motor vehicle crashes left three peole injured in Painesville Thursday night after snow created "slippery" conditions.
All four incidents happened about 10 p.m. on Rt. 2 near the Richmond St. exit,....
Pay me now or pay me later, a salt truck or an ambulance make up your minds.
Oh Mr Saltman You ROCK! sorry had to say it!
Thanks for posting the numbers and hope the police dept. is keeping a tally too!
MP
All it needs is a simple headline change.
"Four motor vehicle crashes left three peole injured when drivers fail to take heed in the face of slippery road conditions."
It's all a matter of perspective and who you choose to blame. Blame the city if you want but I'll take responsibility for myself if I drive recklessly under the conditions and get in a wreck. I wish the headline was "50 people are late to work due to slippery conditions"
Be careful out there, and scrape your windows.
Well I hope the city manager will go up to the hospital and explain to a father that salt went up to $70.00 a ton so we cut back and the gentleman that rear-ended your wifes car assumed there was salt on the road before he struck your wifes car that was stopped at a light,
sending her and your daughter to the hospital.
Yes her window was scraped she could brace herself for the impact.
We pay good money around here to keep our streets safe.
Who assumes the road is salted? look at it. Is it clear of snow and ice? If yes go ahead and drive like a maniac. If not clear be careful, begin to slow down in advance of the intersection, use common sense, maybe tap your brakes to test and see if your car is likely to slide...
Or sue the city and see how that works out for you. Painesville's roads have been better than the roads in other cities this year as I have seen.
You missed the point how does this help the father in the hospital?
His wife stopped but the car coming up behind her didn't.
Painesville street have less salt on them then the other areas I travel through. Maybe instead of $18,000 for streetscapes we bought something usfull like salt!
Asphalt went up to, does that mean we wpn't fill the chuckholes too?
You missed the point how does this help the father in the hospital?
No I didn't. You made the issue about blame. I won't allow you to use throw up some sob story, and use the emotion of it to through blame at the city. I don't care how sad it is, it the tragedy does not account for the liable driver's conduct. The emotion just distracts fromt eh real issue.
Finally, is it not the citys responsibility to keep the street clear and safe?
KAREN
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