Saturday, May 20, 2017

" 25 OR 6 TO 4" chicago

Wondering how much I can take
Should have tried to do some more

Recently someone asked how does a $25.00 fee become a $3,000 fine?

Now although I sat and listened to the conversation it's seem's I thought I must be the only one here that doesn't know? So I asked the city for a short explanation I  could understand.


The City of Painesville implemented the Rental Registration Ordinance in 2009 as a result of recommendations from the Housing Task Force.

Now a person purchases 12 of the 21 condominiums. As such they, they also become the majority owner and control the Homeowner's Association (HOA) Because each condominium is parceled out and its own separate building/structure, each is considered a separate dwelling.  When the owner purchased the dwelling they registered them with the City of Painesville within 60 days of taking ownership as required in the  ordinance. They also attended the Rental Training which teaches best practices for landlords. All property owners are required to renew their rental registration.

The Ordinance requires any property that was previously registered to register within a timely manner (by 02/15/17) as stated in the letter. If timely renewal of the previous registration didn't occur, it would be $250.00. This is per dwelling charge. Since 12 separate condominiums, the charge was 12 X $250 = $3,000 =$25 (initial registration fee) =$3,025.00.

Now the Housing Task Force felt that it should only be a $100.00 per dwelling for someone who was not aware of the program and requirements of registering every 3 years on 02/15/17.

For any property that was previously registered but timely renewal of the previous registration did not occur, ($250.00)

Hey everyone hates the landlord good bad no different.  It's easy to go after them.

Problem here is the city being shortsighted?  Going back to the most important question;

"How does this make Painesville a better place?"

If they are made to pay the fine that's probably $3,000 that won't go into improvements of say surveillance camera's? or just sprucing the location up.

And where goes this $3,000 dollars?

I sat in listened to the Housing Task Force meeting and never did I get the impression the any of this was to enrich the city. I know of at least two landlords on that Task Force who would have never approved of this.

I guess the question remains is, is this the recommendation of the Task Force OR is it the recommendation of the administration under the guise of the Task Force?
That's a big difference.

You think this may seem a little bazaar ? Wait until you hear the facts of how our beloved City and it's treatment of Mr. Rock a 90 year-old WWII veteran.



At May 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, there are actually owners of rental properties on the Housing Task Force??
Are the members of the Task Force named on the City web site (like the members of other Boards are named)?
I can not imagine, in any sort of scenario, that they would think the fines levied by the City are good for anything.
This comes across more like the Administration making up the rules AFTER the Task Force gave them general guidelines.

At May 21, 2017 at 9:27 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

11:30 I must apologize I haven't been to one of their meetings for awhile at the time Richard Tibbits as well as Randi Turner sat on the Task Force.
Presently the Task Force consists of
Abby Delamotte
Carol Fleck
Randi Turner *
Father Vellenga

Administration Support
Lynn White

Doug Lewis
Monica Irelan

Council Liaisons
Jim Fodor
Katie Jenkins

At May 21, 2017 at 10:53 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, with one exception, the answer is apparently "no".
How is there a board that makes rules concerning rentals without having people who are landlords on said board?
How is Carol Fleck on two boards (Planning Commission and Housing) at all??
Why are the CM and asst CM on a Board? Isn't that a role filled by Ms White? Sounds like the rules would get steered where they want them to go.

At May 21, 2017 at 11:07 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

10:53 As mentioned Randi Turner is a landlord. I agree administrative support could be viewed as a 'steering committee'.

At May 21, 2017 at 1:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

With Fr. Steve and Jim Fodor on this committee, may just forget about this town. They will give it away to the Mexicans - legal or illegal. Fr. Steve hid those law-breaking illegal aliens in the church basement. Fodor is a Democratic, former city school administrator, liberal. All in favor of giving the city up to the illegals - Say aye.

At May 21, 2017 at 8:31 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Housing Task Force consists of a past council woman and "support" is from administration heads. Well this committee doesn't have a prayer of being fair for landlords or tenants.

Interesting as at the last council meeting they want a utilities committee and seems to be a problem finding a resilient quailed to sit on the committee. Here we go again and no one stands up for residents ....... again.

Anybody else paying attention?

At May 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real problem is that the Utilities Committee will have absolutely no power over anything. They would be strictly an advisory board to Council who can then twist things the way they want them and blame the committee.

At May 22, 2017 at 9:48 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

8:31 I agree I am waiting for the study that the city is presently doing on our electric department? Somehow it must be a part of this Electrical Committee.
My spy's under the Golden Dome tell me the city would like a minimum electric charge even if you dwelling is not getting electric service, kinda like the water department surcharge that we are all billed, maybe charging all dwelling owners even if they presently not receiving water service. Somehow under an umbrella charge to maintain the system. Think it's crazy? Look at our other recent ordinances. If resident's don't complain more will come.

At May 22, 2017 at 9:56 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is just plain NUTS!

Throw the bums out, drain the swamp, run them out of town!

At May 24, 2017 at 8:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My vote is to bring back members of the hip hop group Whyte Trash to run for city council. Can't stop the head shot from the Village of Paine.

Actually.. seriously I was going to write on here just bring the water in and flood the place.. then I read the comment from 9 56 am , right on!!

Regarding P ville and St. Mary's. Just what happens when have infrastructure and no one to support it.It is not in their culture to give tithes to the church..

So the school went away..

Whatever happened to VD and party machine across the street from the Church??

At May 25, 2017 at 3:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

FRONT PAGE NEWS-Painesville Again ---I just do not get the mentality of people. Painesville is not actively seeking illegals and not profiling illegals. How does one consider it spending taxpayer dollars? They are doing their job BUT if in fact they stumble upon someone that falls into the criteria to contact ICE They will and They should. Keep on following the law.

At May 25, 2017 at 3:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's going on under the Golden Dome tonight? Council having a meeting of what they don't want us to know?


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