Tuesday, October 8, 2013

" COUNCIL MEETING 10/07/13

Pretty interesting meeting it seems that the city manager wants to add another administrator to the Economic Development Department? Passed 7-0. So much for austerity.

The people from Maryland  Sandy Point Consultants presented there goals to be reached in dealing with our storm water problem. Councilman Fodor asked if they were doing this 'out of the goodness of their heart?' The answer was yes as long as we get paid. Now where and when was the resolution to fund this brought to council? Someone in the audience mentioned to me that maybe it was done in Executive Session? No if it had been done there why was Mr. Fodor asking that question now? I don't care if these to are from Siberia as long as we solve our flooding issues. That said we have local institutions such as Case Western Reserve that the administration might of asked first.  My belief is this study will be at least in the $30,000 range. So much for shopping local Mr. Fodor.

We are going to demolish  seven homes in Painesville funded by the Lake County Landbank. I believe the county received this money as part of the revenue from Casino gambling revenue.

Councilman Flock made a presentation on the cost of power from Prairie State Energy Campus. Along with some history about Painesvilles involvement in the deal such as our former city manager  statement that cost of power from Prairie State would be $48.06 in 2013.  He took us step by step through PSEC bill for July and guess what! With levelization /stabilization costs we paid $104.04 per kW in that month. That Mr. Hada is the 'True Fact' no one mentioned that figure was wrong this month. Now Councilman. DeLeone and Councilman. Fodor questioned Councilman Flock as if they were prosecution attorneys? My question to them what research did you two do?  Please send these facts to our Attorney General.that's all Councilman Flock wants. Councilwoman Lori DiNallo proposed a resolution written asking for the letter to be sent. Now we will see who's looking out for residents on this 'toxic asset'.
Mr. Flock asked if a representative from AMP-OHIO could come to Painesville an explain this situation. Someone who knows the 'facts'.
Council-President Hada I am more concerned now more than ever is in AMP-OHIO pocket. As I mention to the council I'm not against coal,gas wind but I am against $104.04 kW, the question begs why he isn't? Mr. Fodor talked about twenty or so years out. I believe twenty years out homes will all have solar panel's bringing down the need for coal plants. Remember what the cost of a Hi-Def TV was ten years ago? Look at the price today. Solar panels will go the same way. He also mentioned we didn't know what natural gas would do to the energy market. Yes many people mentioned natural gas as coming on line but no one took the warning seriously.

A resident complained of neighbors and 'scrapper' leaving their yard a mess. Now I have a scrapper go through my stuff and he has never left a mess. I guess it all comes down to who's doing it. The city has an ordinance against this practice.

The definition of a family came up again. Look I have no law degree, no college education. I know what a family is and isn't. Six men living in a house each paying separately for a short stay of two months or so is not a family. Period. What don't these people understand? Tony Torre brought up an interesting thought are relatives family?

12 Comments:

At October 8, 2013 at 8:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone should mention to councilman Hada the reason his buddy Gene Snow is looking for a job is mainly caused by the anger city residents felt about city government deal over Pairie State.
Yes we had a city offical embezzelment and went to a Mayor form of government. Now Prairie State is robbing us blind for the next 30 years. A city offical in Galion after getting the city to sign the contract went to work for Amp.

 
At October 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM , Blogger Sandy Miller said...

One other thing left out by Mr Hada when responded to Mr Flock's report; how many businesses left town since this contract was signed? Are we now contracted for too much power?

I also was alarmed at Joe Hada's information on Moddy's rating of AMP. The day Enron went down, Moody's had rated them the highest rating possible. AMP has their A+ rating because we all own it, it's a co-op. it's our money they are rating to AMP's.

 
At October 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I recall, we also entered into a $10,000.00/month (or thereabouts) contract with AMP-OHIO for some sort of landfill project that seemed suspect to me at the time. I voiced many concerns, but nobody on council listened, and they voted for it anyway. I have never heard anything more about that or how it turned out -- if it ended up to be a good or bad deal.

 
At October 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

1:28 Landfill (Erie County) -Sched @ATI
122,680kWh $8,010.61
$0.065297 Cheaper than PSEC

We purchaced PSEC power @
$0.076662 kWh.

Bought power as low as $0.031734

 
At October 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bet Paul Hach had kittens when he found out all those houses needed to go?

 
At October 8, 2013 at 5:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, 2:22: Was it a take-or-pay contract?

 
At October 9, 2013 at 5:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another department head???
7-0???
Where does the funding come from? The General Fund?
How did we get by, without this position, in the past?
Proof that with enough money and enough people, anyone can do the job.

 
At October 9, 2013 at 7:23 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

2:42 Paul did mention he visited all the sites? Draw your own conclusion.
2:22 No, We are obligated to purchase the landfill power until the landfill cannot produce anymore gas.
5:01 Not a department head an administrative assistant. Either we need more help setting up the Farmers Market or some township resident needs a job?
Doesn't sound like a place needing money? They do what they want and tell you we need more money?

 
At October 9, 2013 at 7:43 AM , Anonymous HADAENOUGH said...

Iwatched the council meeting and was very impressed with councilmans Flock's presentation. Mr. Hada's rebuttal included no numbers why? It seems the price we are paying for electric power from Prairie State seems of no concern to him. Odd how July's number matched up to your numbers at the last meeting when you were all but called a liar. Now Mr. Hada's claim he talks to many Amp communities ? Well maybe he should discuss this situation with his own council and get to the bottom of this. If Mr. Hada isn't on prairie state's payrol he should be.

 
At October 9, 2013 at 8:13 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

7:43 I don't get it either. Look he as well as the rest on council at that time we're sold a bill of goods that wern't true. Why now he feels the need to defend these people now makes no sense to me. He was lied to as well as the rest of us. Yet the numbers don't bother him? Look if it's the fact he can't admit a mistake was made the rest of council should be aware this situation is bad for Painesville. To not do anything seems to not make much sense either.
I knew the numbers I gave at the September meeting were right, I now have to wonder what numbers presented by the finance department are real?
He should think this over. He will be out of office in less than three months and these AMP-OHIO deals leave a poor legacy.

 
At October 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where are the houses located that will be demolished? Is there a list somewhere?

 
At October 9, 2013 at 2:53 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

11:36
28 Axtell St.
183 Sterling Ave.
87 Nebraska St.
260 Richmond St.
335 E. Main St.
434 E. Erie St.
804 E. Erie St.

Hope this helps.

 

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