"SINCE YOU GOT TO GO" moody blues
Go now.
Watching the council meeting on channel 12 last night left me remembering to things. One, a department head calling our city manager a professional, along with Councilman Fodor claiming again we must "Trust" the administration.
First off I do not agree with either statement.
Professionals don't get the city involved in some of the stupid deals that I have witnessed in the last 10 years, AMP-OHIO is a great example. Purchasing $250,000 for swamp land as you enter Fairport another. Trust? Do I believe anyone at city hall is dishonest? No, but trust also means that the people in charge have the best interests of the city. A city manager who raised no red flags a few years ago when one soon to retire firefighter received all or most of the overtime in the fiscal year close to 500 hours, wonder over the years what that will cost the city in retirement cost's in the future?
At best we have paid a city manager with no previous experience to run this city for the last 15 years or so, chosen and lead by a few people in Painesville. Look around if your happy of what you see God Bless you, if your not ,well?
Councilman Flock asked about electric rates will power produced from Prairie State Energy Campus delivered to Painesville cost presently cost close to $74.00/MWH. Please don't forget on top of this we paid $300,000 in interest charges and got nothing in return.
The plan sold to council that the purchase price will be over 15 million dollars from AMP-OHIO starting in 2015 will be 24/7 power at $62.95/MWH agreed to at the October 18,2010 council meeting.
We still have "stranded "cost of the AMPGS Meigs County of 2 million? Can we agree Mike that's a close figure? Stranded means the costs Painesville has to pay even though the plant was never built.
Now councilman's Flock question to the city manager who for some reason had no idea of the change in contract in Columbus, Ohio where starting in 2015 AMP-OHIO will supply the city municipal power with power costs of $42.00/MWH Columbus Dispatch August 1,2012 news story. What is the most amazing twist to this story is that Columbus never got involved in Meigs County, Prairie State or a host of other deals AMP-OHIO put forward yet who seems to be the winner and who seems to be the loser? Wonder if professionals or a bunch of hicks got Columbus this deal?
In other news it seems the fence at "Your Vine Or Mine" has been taken down for the season. I have heard that they were not to happy with a councilman's questions at a council meeting. I always thought that was one of the responsibilities of a councilman? When it goes up next spring I will send an email to the ADA to confirm if the fence is in compliance. Also l will ask the city law director if its even legal to sell alcohol on the city of Painesville right of way? Why can the fence in front of a home only be three feet high yet unless I shrunk that fence seems high? With the city making a ruling like this does it also give certain people the right to drink alcohol at Veterans Park? To the people a YVorM send me a letter also as a private citizen I also have the right to question. I am sure my attorney can send you one back. If we all can remember the question wasn't if you could, but who let you. This seems hardly the way for a business to act considering Painesville citizens are spending $900,000 on the two blocks surrounding your business.
posted by terminator1 @ 8:27 AM
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15 Comments:
Wow its any wonder that businesses are not clamoring to be in downtown Painesville. I am not much of a wine drinker but have been in Your Vine or Mine a few times and think that it was certainly a positive for downtown Painesville. Lets work on chasing them away too and then fondly recall their existance 10 years from now. I certainly hope there is plenty of room on those Main Street sidewalks for ????
I'm glad we have Andy..he our Saviour! I hope his friend gets the Pvll City Mng job!
1:47 You really believe that I'm trying to run business out of town?All the question was who authorized this. Now if you can fence the front of your property off like YVorM what happens if everyone does it?
I believe they will and are sucessful with or without the fenced in area. I just don't understand the logic of a fence. Why not just a few tables and chairs?
2:18 If it'sa friend of Andy's well if pig's fly. The new CM will as the old have to answer to only two Joe's. Take it to the bank.
I guess what I don't understand about all this fence stuff is why did I have to pay $100.00 to get my fence approved by zoning?
Something doesn't smell right here.
First off 2 things...the number 2 is spelled TWO not to. To/Too and Two. Like Their/There and They're.
The logic of the fence ultimately is the business owners decision as long as it does not impair on someone elses rights. I do not believ it is councils job to approve fences as that typically is a zoning issue. I really am just amazed why that fence is such a hot button for you.
As to whether a fee was paid or charged I would be surprised if the city let an opportunity to collect a buck pass them by. Keep in mind those businesses are helping pay the freight for the residents. They employ people which the city collects 2% of their income as tax revenue as well as the business itself paying 2% of its profits to the city.
6:17 Thanks I do understand I have shortcomings in spelling, also at the present time I am presntly highly medicated. Makes me feel good but hasn't added to any spelling skills.
7:01 The logic is, it isn't the businesses property. I have stated I have no objection to putting a couple tables and chairs out front. The fence as well as flower pots, ect. should not impair front people going from one end of Main St. to the other. Why did I get involved? You would be surprised at the number of people as well as other business owners that weren't that crazy about the fence. Those same people don't need the scorn of the city upon them. Me I could care how much they hate me under the golden dome or at YVorM.
Again I wish the best sucess for Your Vine or Mine, my question was only who approved the fence?
Now after many of years of the city using CCA for income tax collection. JaHada finally admits that my doing this it will save the city $50,000 a year and improve collection. What took so long? JaHada you or the Queen????
Hey Term - I'm thinking Ohio law requires a barrier around outdoor areas which will serve customers consuming alcohol. That's why Party In The Park beer area always has that portable plastic fence around it. As for standard food service - such as the former restaurant in front of the Senior bldg., and that other restaurant which used to have outside tables in the summer - those areas were also fenced so again I'm thinking state or local laws requiring it. As for the fencing which may block public access on a public walkway - I got nothing. Seems as though it may be an Americans With Disabilities Act Violation,maybe.
Kathy in the last few years I haven't seen a fence around the "beer tent" at PITP.
As well as any fence at a Taste of Painesville.
If the fence is put up next spring we will find out if it is a violation? Does that fence have to extend that far out into the public right-of-way?
The simple fact is this city has been mismanged for over 30 years by a bunch of clowns who view themselves as professionals.
The idiot Galion city manager has invited AMP executive to Tuesdays city council meeting ... this is going to be a whale of show folks.
Should be the wildest city council meeting since the city went BK years ago.
http://www.crawfordcountynow.com/AMP-reps-to-be-at-Galion-City-Council-meeting/14442507
Tar and feathers anyone ?
So a few funny things....the "interest payments" were not what you say - as has been stated in SEVERAL council meetings they were principle payments, without interest. In other words, the City was satisfying their commitment to AMP and thus lowering their payments in the future.
Second, it's also been answered several times that the fence correlated with ADA requirements with a 3 foot requirement. As for the fence height, you must have shrunk. It was not over 3 feet....
I love that you seem to have the "inside" track on a myriad of things, yet seem to be inaccurate on most. I can only guess where you get your info, since it seems someone is always playing the puppet in that pairing. If it's on here, it comes up in council...if it comes up in council, its on here. Coincidence?
6:42 Principal payments? You can then assume we received something from the $300,000? What was it?
Better reread the agrement, for one by now we should be paying the principle on unit2 right?
Coincidence are strange and wonderful things? Could it be two people just agreeing on a subject?
In the spring the fence issue will be brought up again and if the ADA agrees well fine. Now what happens to your three feet when the construction on Main
St. starts?
I can only wish that the administration was as inaccurate as I seem to be sometimes. But then in your eyes they must walk on water?
Speaking about water what are the pipes under Main St. like?
Painesville leadership does not have a clue of what they are talking about ... the SEC filings show when the interest and principle payments are due.
Painesville has only made interests payment on unit 1 of Prairie State.
Full bill .. principle and interest starts January 2013.
City leadership has lied the entire way, they have ZERO credibility.
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