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Full house at Painesville School Board Meeting. Seems odd the only thing able to bring out a crowd is a crisis. Even FOX8 NEWS showed up.
First off David Klingenberg turned in his resignation. One board member voted to terminate him. His resignation was approved by the BOE.
A David Klingenberg sold a home on Big Rock Dr. in Painesville Township according to Friday's News-Herald.
During the visitor time of the meeting a resident asked for the resignation of Dr. Hanlon? This person claimed it was not due to this latest crisis, but the overall performance of the district. First off there is no way he will resign and I don't see the BOE firing him presently. I keep my thoughts to myself but after hearing a conversation in the parking lot I don't believe this request was due to the low test scores in the district or the latest crisis? This request over school performance could have been made anytime over the last five years. why tonight?
I never though I would say this but the asking for resignation of Dr. Hanlon seem's a little premature. I would rather wait and see how this whole investigation shakes out before anyone ask for that.
My remark which wasn't appreciated at the meeting that firing Dr. Hanlon right now won't solve anything. That firing thinking ranks up there with if we build all new school building test score will dramatically improve.
I will end this post on a very positive note.
Ms. Wendy Camper made a presentation on a new innovated teaching method she is using a Elm St. Elementary. Her 5th grade class consists of 24 boys only boys, they have specific rules and standards. She has Tie Tuesday, school service with helping Kindergarten students at lunch. She is teaching young men to take pride in themselves and learning how to gain respect from others. I do not know this teacher but something tells me the system is loaded with great idea teachers.
She even has a Blog.
I will call the school and post the site here.
posted by terminator1 @ 6:10 PM
51 Comments
51 Comments:
Term,
What you heard in the parking lot was citizens finally taking a stand and this latest issue was the tipping point. What selective hearing you have. People finally stepped up and it's still not good enough for you.
The person who asked for Hanlon's resignation should be congratulated for her courage. When you stand up and ask for the city managers job it's ok but when someone else does it they don't know what their talking about.
Who made you GOD....
Term, now you say don't fire Hanlon.premature. Maybe for this incident but there is a whole career worth of reasons. Why your change of heart? What are you getting out of this. This waffle makes me doubt your motive in your other stances. just sayin. There's something going on here.
I have to commend Steve for wanting the assistant principal fired. The State needs to be contacted and made ware of the problems and ask for an investigation. The other teacher has ended up selling cars at Honda of Mentor. Maybe they have a position for this person. Has this principal even apologize for what he has done to our school system? In Mentor when one of their teachers had an inappropriate relationship with a student she ended up in jail. What's up here in Painesville?
Monday, September 10, 2012
By Caitlin Fertal
CFertal@News-Herald.com
@NHCaitlin
The Painesville City Local School District accepted the resignation of Harvey High School Assistant Principal David Klingenberg on Monday night.
The resignation, effective immediately, comes as the result of the district realization that Klingenberg had been under police investigation since May of last year.
The board voted 4-1 to accept the resignation, while board member Steve Costell stated that his vote of “no” represented his desire to terminate Klingenberg rather than allowing him to resign.
Klingenberg was placed on paid administrative leave Aug. 30, the day after the district learned of the police investigation.
Superintendent Michael P. Hanlon said in a previous media release that Painesville Police and the district are investigating whether Klingenberg “violated the policy we have in place regarding the maintenance of proper boundaries with our students.”
Hanlon issued a written statement after the meeting but would not comment further on the decision to approve Klingenberg’s resignation instead of opting for termination.
“Nothing is more important than the safety and security of the students in our care. We will not tolerate behavior that jeopardizes the trust the community and our students place in us. We continue to cooperate with the police on their investigation of this,” Hanlon said in the statement.
Specific details of what type of misconduct may have taken place have not been released.
The News-Herald submitted a public records request for Klingenberg’s personnel file, which has not yet been provided by the district.
Several community members also spoke at the meeting, which had few empty seats.
6:28 People stepping up by the community it's about time and for the good. The question is how many will show up next month? Here's why this is premature? I want everything brought into the light everything. Here's a news flash he wasn't going to resign last night.
I might have selective hearing but I did hear the remarks made in the parking lot. That doesn't make those remarks right do they?
My motive is to go by the book. If heads will roll it will be everyones head. Who knew what and when and why did they stay silent?
I'm waiting for facts.
Heard the same dialoge you did after the meeting. It's all about the football!
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Term 5:40 I understand that you want all facts to come to light. I do as well. However, I didn't see anything wrong with asking for Hanlon's resignation. Of course he wasn't going to resign! I believe like Mr. Costell's vote it was a symbollic gesture to show the board we want some transparency as well as some accountability. I do believe "heads will roll" when everything comes to light. Dr. Hanlon may be able to claim ignorance when it comes to the police investigation but I believe he knew about the community's concerns regarding Klingenberg.
On a side note, I will admit that yesterday was my first council meeting and as a parent in this district I have no excuse for that. Going forward, I will definitely attend more council meetings and try to become a voice in the community.
10:07 Many informative things are discussed at the BOE meeting. Just think how the board as well as the administration will do business with 25 or more people in the audience?
General feeling are if no one comes everyone must be satisfied?
Steve was a very positive addition to the board, and I like his reasoning.
Yes there was nothing wrong with asking for Dr. Hanlon's resignation. I just knew it wouldn't happen. It's out there now
I have always believed one of Dr. Hanlon's greatest faults was that he viewed himself as the "Rug Doctor" Well time has come. No more rugs.
Wait until it ALL comes out.
to anonymous 9:54 will you please quit reposting the News Herald articles word for word, if we are ont this blog than we are on the internet and we can read the articles ourselves, if you want to qoute an article than just put a link and state your opinion, I'm betting you're the person who frequently does this and it is annoying
11:22 cut a little slack here. You would be surprised at the number of people who don't read the News-Herald.
I read it only because someone brings it to work.
Witnessed this at the board meeting yesterday. Should I read anything into the large number of African-Americans who attended?
2:19 Really? Do I have to explain that to you? Think about it.
6:28 I have never attended any council, or board meeting asking for anyone resignation.
I may have made my feelings known here on the Blog. But that's it.
When all the information is released and we know the what, where and when and everybody who knew I might be asking for his resignation also. I want all the facts. Who else knew of something and buried facts or just stayed quiet?
One question that really bothers me is how could the administration not know of the police investigation? What if a party didn't trust the administration and took the concerns directly to the police?
I believe the African American population is there because we are fed up. Your socioeconomic status should not dictate your quality of education. Painesville does not look for the best candidate, but the cheapest. The entire administration at the high school is unqualified. The positions require masters degrees and they don't have theirs. It's in progress. I could understand one, but everyone but the principal only holds a bachelors. And as of yesterday. The building substitute who is a gym teacher from Lamuth equip was laid off, is in Klingenbergs role in the interim, and he has no prior experience. You would think that with everything going on, they would attempt to get some experienced people who are not in the middle of the situation in there. Kinda feel sorry for the new principal. He has his hands full. Our entire school system is in a state of diaorganization and turmoil. The bad thing is that we may lose another administrator at the high school as everything unfolds. The children are speaking, both current and past and to be honest it sickened me to my view the way these individuals conducted themselves.
Dave Klingenberg was a wonderful teacher and an even better administrator. Shame on all of you for jumping to conclusions before you know the facts. From what I can tell, nobody even knows what this is all about... you all are jumping on the witch hunt wagon. He was an advocate for our immigrant population; lobbying for justice on their behalf. He was a friend to everyone he worked with and would go to no ends if someone was in need. Harvey is loosing a great asset...
This is only speculation, but...
Maybe the African American Community was there because:
- Kaleb Coffee transferred to Maple as a high school free agent, along with a Head Coach, an Assistant Coach and a couple of draft picks to be named later.
- When the OHSAA asked both the AP and hanlon if the move was athletically motivated, they had to tell the truth.
- Pastor Coffee and his congregation were not happy about this, so it was time to take action.
- Pastor Coffee has a relative do his speaking for him at the BOE meeting, asking for Hanlon's resignation.
- He can't speak himself because he is no longer a resident since he had to legally move to Maple to make the transfer "legit".
- Usually the OHSAA considers moves legitimate if the guardian has a change of work place.
Still waiting for FACTS also.
Term, why wouldn't/shouldn't the board fire Hanlon? What allegiance
does he have to this district? How many times did he apply for other superintendents jobs before? That speaks volumes there.
AND, of course there is a large number of black people. What are the percentages in this district?
I would like to know where to find these numbers, of all the students, black, Hispanic, Asian, Caucasian, etc.
2:51 While I agree with the tone of your comment, I don't believe now is the time to pick a fight with every administrator at Harvey. If we do that who will run the school?
We can't fall victim to criticizing the present administration without offering solutions. I believe we all can agree that we have the right person for the job in Mr. McWreath. Let's allow him time to take control of things as they are now, before we "change the game" on him.
In the Navy, the captain is ultimately responsible for everything that happens on his ship. When all is said and done "Captain" Hanlon will find himself without a ship or port!
I have faith that the present culture of deceit, indifference, and neglect will soon be coming to an end. I hope you do too.
6:07 The Coffee family has the right as an American to move anywhere they want. They also can move for any reason they want.
It's O.K. to question motive.
This was a sidebar in Saturday's Plain Dealer.
Myself I'm just alittle disappointed in a coach accepting a job and resigning from it to participate in a better program. If you think about many coaches
at all levels have and still do this. I guess I used to the Beelers, Skullins and even as far back as the Britts and Wetzels that stayed with one program the whole time.
Its a different world today.
I wish Kaleb Coffee all the sucess He can attain.
I think many of you are missing the Elwephant in the room?
2:51 - check your facts, the entire high school administration has at least a masters. Good try though. (only one I'm not sure about is AD. The state doesn't require ADs to have admin cert)
The Elwephant, aka elephant
Am I to believe that the inappopriate bahavior was with a Black child?
Half-n-Half
Looks like we're in this together, my brother and sisters....:)
Pastor Coffee yet lives in Painesville/Lake County, to funny
The inappropriate behavior was with more than one child. They were of different races. Yes McWreath is doing a great job, but he has to do it by himself. Every administrator under him at Harvey has zero experience. Let's hope he does not tuck tail and leave from the stress. There is no plan to replace any of the inexperienced individuals. They come cheaper that someone who is experienced. Behavior may change at Harvey, but don't expect miracles because of a new principal. Remember he has a boss who provides direction that he had to follow. A bad report card for the schools does not look good on Hanlon's resume.
I forgot the (s), my Brother(s).......that includes you Term!!!
Hanlon's resume is already shot. He has bid on at least 6 jobs in the last 2 years and has been rejected for every last one. We are stuck with someone that no one else wants. I hope the community stands strong in their quest for termination.
11:42 - There was an administrator at Harvey with experience, but was run out based on rumors and gossip. Any charges filed yet against Mr. Klingenberg? What did the board have on him? The police obviously don't have much or he would have been arrested...witch hunt?
It was come to my attention that a BOE member meet with a church group, and a special BOE meeting was held Dr. Hanlon was not present.
3:02 I hope your right but I believe something is coming down the track.
On 10/01/2007
I would like to know what happened during a staff meeting where Ms. DiNallo shared Deescalate and Return Data,
Would she care to share what happened at that meeting?
Good luck asking the board for public records. I needed just a little info so I contacted the secretary at the BOE by sending an email request, I was questioned about it, answered questions, repeated request, was told I did not need that information. I replied I did, asked again and was told again I did not need the information for the project I was working on. I'm not sure they are aware that by not following such request they can be charged with violating such request and can be charged a hefty, daily fine.
Next time I need something, I won't be so patient or nice.
Wonder if this case gos forward Kim Martin will be asked to come back and testify.
What kind of professional does a weight loss commercial in a bra and panties?
I just wish all the people hand picked by Klingenberg were not in the positions they are because they are friends of his...I am questioning his ability to make wise choices. As far as helping the Latino immigrants...he was helping himself to their daughters and intimidating them with fear of deportation. It is really unwise to have 3 caucasion men in charge at the high school and saying but we have guidance counselors that are women just doesn't cut it in my book. The administration should mirror the population that it serves. Just saying... How will we get a levy to pass with all this turmoil? Who is in charge of all the hiring? Who does Klingenberg's evaluations? I can not fathom that Martin or DeAngelis had no idea of what was going on in Klingenberg's office. Shame on him! He should have been placed on unpaid leave or forced to use his sick days!
The meeting wasn't with a church group or even affiliated with a church. Yes, it was held at a church.
It was a rapidly growing concerned group of community members meeting to discuss issues.
Finally, people have had enough.
So everyone missed the part about Wendy Camper's class and her try at teaching just boys in the 5th grade. I applaud her doing whatever is necessary to try to help our kids!
7:23 It didn't go unnoticed by the people sitting around me. This is the kind of "outside the box" PCLS needs.
7:23 Finally, people have had enough. That is a good thing.
7:21 If you have any proof of this accusation please bring it forward.
The Levy? Dead in the water at this point. The BOE has financing until August 2013 by then things will have been cleared up.
6:12 Yes I don't understand it either.
5:53 Freedom of information. They have the right and responsibility to black out student names.
Mr. Know it all So you think the levy is dead? What proof do you have? What are Hanlons chances of retaining his job?
6:10 Just conversations with people I have spoken with around town. PHD? Slim to None gone by Christmas.
7:21- Who did Klingenberg hire? Other than coaches, what hitting authority does an assistant principal/AD have?
Are these men incompetent because of the color of their skin? Not completely sure, but I don't believe you are allowed to discriminate against the hiring of someone based solely on their skin color.
The information needed was not about students. 2 Different stories. 1) I'd like to know the percentages of the ethnic groups. PCLS used to have that information on their calendars. All information is on a web site, so where can I find this on the site?
2) Public record request was on the staff and their years in the position. It is against the law to deny this to one who asks. Next time I won't be so polite and turn them over if necessary.
Stop it right there, everyone!!!!!
We all choose to live in this diverse community. If we want to change what this city and school system has become we have to stick together as one.
Leaders...Lead no mater the color of their skin. Let's not make race an issue because it is not.
The issue is we have a leader (Hanlon) who is not much of a leader. He has ruined our schools!!!
1:00 PHD ruined our schools? Yes but it seems he had a lot of help from parent's who didn't explain the purpose of school, along with bailing them out of trouble all the time. As well as a community who seem more proud of the buildings than the finished product that comes out of those buildings.
What do you tell your children 10 20 years from now? Your a falure in life because of a guy named Hanlon? I don't think that's to comforting.
You would rather tell them you are a success in life in spite of....
PHD. We all have to share the blame.
Sorry anonymous 1:00 - I did not chose to live in a "diverse" communtiy. I did chose to live in Painesville, the town I grew up in and then bought a home here, NEVER in my wildest dreams would I think I'd see this town in such a mess. I blame the illegals, the authorities both local and feds for not coming up with a way to send them back, the schools and churches for harboring them.
Way back when, Harvey had a bad reputation and nothing has ever been done to change that.
Don't lump me in the group of sharing the blame. You were upset when Mr. Horvath supposedly spoke on the residents behalf about the illegals. Remember? You didn't like it and neither do I.
I'm not sharing the blame for any of this. I feel the state should step in and clean house.
And remember the meeting room is named the Michael P Hanlon Multi Purpose room. I think that should go right now too.
5:58/6:03 I think your missing my point.
Removing one person might be a start but it's not the solution to our whole problem.
If we could remove all illegals it wouldn't solve the problems we pesently have here.
It's not going to be so easy.
It would be a good start. Think about all the added expense this caused because they refuse to assimilate. Extra teachers, aides, ELL programs, OTELA testing, $$$ it all adds up and we can do with out it. They CAN speak English they CHOOSE not to. Even more so if they get in trouble, HUH? No comprendo. Very convenient at times and so easy to blame all the bad teachers when it fact it's the kids. If my kid needed to know his colors, ABC's, how to count... They should know how to speak English upon entering kindergarten.
Of course if our government would get moving and make it the official language before Spanish takes it first. THat would solve a few problems wouldn't it?
Yes to 2:35 as far as English needs to be deemed the official language in The United States of America. Now we have celebrities feeling free to speak Spanish in public settings, we have people in our governments speaking Spanish in speeches IN AMERICA. We are starting to see Spanish in commercials and, of course, Spanish is now on all our packaging and we must press 1 for English on our phones. How frightening that our elected officials have not even accomplished THAT, let alone the anchor baby nonsense. And the American people seem more apathetic all the time. Hardly anyone is even fighting this takeover anymore. We are very stupid people.
Yes it seems everyone is doing it. AND in the past everyone was doing it. President Lincoln's speeches were written in German for the German Immigrants. President Obama, as well as Mitt Romney presently are doing it. A speech in Florida had one of Mitt's sons speaking fluently to the crowd.
The reason you see Spanish at Rite-Aid, Lowes, Home Depot well it's profits.
I refuse to buy anything packaged at Walmart that has Spanish on it. I've emailed them twice and told them this also. Apparently they don't care as I'm only one person as I never got a response either time.
6:25 Walmart is in the business to first and foremost to make a buck.
Chances are the same product at Kmart, Target are also going to have Spanish on them.
Maybe directing your attention to the manufacturer would create the outcome you want? I don't believe it will. Remember their chasing the same buck.
What I'm refering to is the WalMart brand items. Walmart cereal, crackers, etc. I believe they are called Great Value brand.
Sorry No Habla, Never even thought of store brands.
That said I am sure these items are sold in Walmart stores in Mexico also?
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