Monday, June 14, 2010

"MY MARIA" bw stervenson

Sorry to all Brooks and Dunn fans.

Mondays school board meeting was interesting. Mr. Dillard explained why a levy was not asked for at the special Saturday morning meeting. I believe one is on the way in November along with a special meeting to discuss it on June 30,2010 at 7:00pm.
The board layed out five options ranging from an emergency levy to an income tax levy. Mr. Taylor also explain some of the other bodies that probably will be asking for money in the next election.
In the public section a school employee was upset about the loyalty issue concerning employees. Yes in good times we're all one big happy family but when times get tough people get downsized, that's what's hard for people to understand, after being smeared with honey for many years.
The new union representative introduced himself.
A lady connected to the grass roots team presented the administration with a very touchy problem.
In last Fridays Lake County Tribune a four page school newspaper was printed and distributed.
I read the story and I even thought this story has no place in a Jr.High newspaper.
the story;
ARIZONA IS WRONG!
By Maria Rodriguez

The new law that was passed in Arizona on April 23rd allows officers to stop people because of their race and ask for documents that say they are legal. The officers are only asking Latinos or suspected illegal immigrants. They also can target people w2ho hire or transport illegal immigrants.
In my opinion, as a Latina I think this law is wrong. The United States is known as a melting pot of all cultures. Mexicans and Native American were already in Arizona and other border states long before there was even a United States. Arizona passing this law really speaks badly about them. This also makes them look racist. Lets not forget that Arizona was among the last states to recognize Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday as a holiday, now the racism is extended to Hispanics. The worst part of this law is that the police are only stopping Latino. There are many more nationalities of immigrants in Arizona. The main laborers of Arizona are immigrants. To get rid of them would be a huge downfall in Arizona's economy.
People are simply judging on looks. In Arizona and all over the United States there are immigrants that follow the laws. There are many that our citizens as well. This citizens shouldn't be asked for documentation if they are law abiding citizens. A lot of immigrants have don't have any other choice than to stay in the United States. Many of these immigrants are looking for a better life for their families because the state of the Mexican economy. I truly hope that this law ends in Arizona and no other state picks up this law.

Who was the faculty advisor? Did he or she ask the young lady if she bothered to read the law? Again this law doesn't even go into affect until July.
Did he or she explain that its not being a racist to want to know who and why you are in this country. Along with it being a crime to be here illegally.
I can not attack the young lady, but wouldn't have been an interesting lesson if she had to take the other view point? Maybe even ask her to defend Mexicos immigration policy. The teacher missed so many opportunities to make a lesson out of this.
One more, give Maria credit that she said in the article it was her opinion. That should have been at the top of the story opinion, commentary, an editorial.
What our our teachers teaching? Well give them credit 50% of the story was fact!
That's all we ask for here.

41 Comments:

At June 14, 2010 at 10:54 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

and what was the response from the administration when the grass roots lady brought this to their attention?

Guess I should pay 50% of my taxes.

 
At June 15, 2010 at 3:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We saw it, can not get over it, out of the mouth of V.D.

Someone needs to pay for that.

 
At June 15, 2010 at 3:02 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

The response from the front table, well was silence. Someone asked before it was brought here why did you not contact Mr. Hanlon? She said she tried but he was not in the office.
She seemed to carry herself differently then most. We make a statement and then there is silence. This lady wanted an answer NOW! God Bless Her.
Dr. Hanlon said he would look into it. I believe she wanted a retraction in this Friday's newspaper. I leared a lot last night.

 
At June 15, 2010 at 3:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There could have been an important lesson here but the advisor didn't or wouldn't see it.
Could you imagine if a student had a rebuttal?

 
At June 16, 2010 at 2:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I called the police 5 times in the last week on them and it they just won't stop.

I give up we must move away.

 
At June 16, 2010 at 6:41 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

2:25 Called the police on who, why.
Could you give a little more information?

 
At June 17, 2010 at 3:16 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

God Term what are we talking about

LATINOS - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,
I GUESS SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE LEGAL, NONE OF THEM CARE ABOUT THE LAW.

THATS WHO...........

 
At June 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

Well, we have people running around North Ave. with a gun.
People taking traffic victims to Akron Hospitals could almost be anything. Have you thought about video taping the problem and bringing it to council?

 
At June 17, 2010 at 12:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term, I like that idea. Videotape some of these idiots and make council watch it. Show them what people have to put up with.

 
At June 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The band leader Rene Perez of the latin band [Calle 13] performed at the Vive Latino music festival in Mexico City.
The words written on his back translated as "Green light to invade Arizona"
How can most of us here in the states know whats going on. Then include some "high" second rate band know its an INVASION, but our leaders from Obama to our city managerr look the other way?

 
At June 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about taping the music, then take it to McMahon's house, along with all the council people who let this happen, including past councilpersons Delamotte and Horvath. Wait until 10:00 p.m., or whenever the Latinos generally start playing the music, then blare it outside THEIR homes and see how they like it. They wanted a Mexican city. Now that they HAVE a Mexican city, might as well let them enjoy it, too.

 
At June 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

They probably don't hear it yet, but they will soon.
When they leave Arizona, and Nebraska. They will soon travel to places that don't care who's there. You guess where a place like that is?

 
At June 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

The new union representative for the non-classified Painersville shool employees? Hal Werner.
I will find it interesting how this will work out?
I have always been told you can't serve two masters.
Wonder if Hal will put the residents of Painesville that elected him to council first, or the union employees he's to represent?

 
At June 19, 2010 at 3:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

did anybody run against Hal for school union job?

If nobody else wants the job then what does one do?

 
At June 20, 2010 at 7:16 AM , Anonymous REW said...

Mr. Werner should have thought that through before accepting the union position. But before I form an opinion on it I have a few questions. Is his union position a paid one? Is it an open-ended job or does it have a limit on serving? How might it conflict with his duties as councilman? Since he was presumably a union member before becoming representative he would have had his own best interests (job-wise) already in place before being elected to council. Becoming union leader gives him more clout to look out for himself and those members he is representing. At the very least he would have been wise to PUBLICLY annouce his new responsibilities and along with his plan to ABSTAIN from any council vote that might give an appearence of impropriety. Every council-person has their own agenda and personal interests that they bring to the table. There is no way we could elect a totally impartial council with no ties to any other groups....and who would want one like that anyway. I want a council-person to represent me that is successful in other endeavors and has something on the ball. Having said all that, I have one final question...what were those union members thinking when they elected Werner to that position? Werner talked a good game before being elected to council but has been pretty much ineffectual since. I wish the union rank and file good luck!

 
At June 20, 2010 at 7:27 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

What one does, is make it clear to the residents of ward 2 along with the all the residents of Painesville, as well as to the union members who comes first the city or the union?
Did he do this?

 
At June 20, 2010 at 7:50 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

Here's an example of what could happen. The school system is in a financial bind. Someone on the board proposes to privatize the transportation department saving the schools $350,000 a year.
Does Hal look out for the taxpayers of Painesville or for himself and fellow bus drivers? All I'm saying is this could put him in a compromising position he chose himself to be in. Why?

 
At June 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would hope that Hal would stand up for his union and fight for there job's.

 
At June 20, 2010 at 10:27 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hal, would have to think what's best for the city. Where would the extra money come from? The taxpayers of Painesville? Mr. Know-it-All has painted himself into a corner.

 
At June 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people got what you deserved. A union boss instead of a councilman congrats.
Show me that in your little pocket book of Bill of Rights!
Wonder if he was ever going to tell us?
One Term Hal?

 
At June 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

And don't we already have enough of a possible conflict of interest between council members and the school? Is this how the 50% policy stays in place, for example?

To comment on Rew's post: I'm one of the people Werner lied to to get my backing in his campaign for council. He IMMEDIATELY changed his stance on more than one thing AS SOON AS HE GOT ELECTED. I also wholeheartedly agree with your statement about him being ineffective. As soon as he got in office, he just started to kiss the (feet) of McMahon like everyone else, so she continues to run our city into the ground. When he was running for office, he ran on the platform that he would try to get her out. As soon as he got elected, he started singing her praises.

We need to get enough people on council who will get her out of office and get rid of this network that has been going on there for way too many years. The two new people are just yes people for McMahon as far as I can tell. No surprise there, I guess.

 
At June 20, 2010 at 2:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the article about immigration in today's The News-Herald?

COLUMBUS TO URGE CONGRESS TO ACT ON IMMIGRATION

COLUMBUS-Columbus City Council is poised to call on Congress to tighten U.S. Borders against illegal immigration while allowing certain undocumented workers in the country to gain legal status.

Councilwoman Charleta Tavares expects to sponsor the resolution Monday, and it has the support for passage. The measure also asks federal and state lawmakers to help communities to pay for immigrant services. Tavares said "all 50 states need uniform immigration policies," and her resolution says changes should keep families together and protect immigrants' civil rights.

-Associated Press

My opinion on this article:

We MUST not elect any Latinos to office, and we must fight to get all of them who are in office out of office. None of them care about the United States. They care about making the United States a Latino country with no thought that it will crumble. Keeping families together means letting every Latino who is already here bring in 50 more of their relatives to locate the whole damn family in the U.S.

When she talks about letting "certain" illegals gain amnesty, she's talking about all of them -- make no mistake about that. And there will be no end to it until ALL of Mexico gets American citizenship. That's what they want, and that is what they will get if ANY of this passes anywhere.

 
At June 20, 2010 at 5:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, I thought Hal was a very conservative Republican? That's what he told me, now he runs a union?

 
At June 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

1:42 Hal stared running for reelection the day after he won his election. Yes I guess Hal found it difficult to tell the city manager to her face what he had promised us.
First thing he did was approve an assistant for her sight unseen. He told me he met with her and her desk seem full of papers?
The problem I have with Hal is every decision he makes he first weighs it to how it will effect his reelection. Sorry Hal it ain't that easy. Well at least I knew where "Wild Bill" was coming from.
As far as the union, I worry about the secretaries, janitors, and food service workers because I have a feeling he's only going to worry about the transportation department.

 
At June 21, 2010 at 7:47 AM , Anonymous Don't turn my street into a barrio said...

Going to see more and more of this if something isn't done at the federal level to stop this invasion.

Fremont

 
At June 21, 2010 at 8:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The new union representative for the non-classified Painesville school employees? Hal Werner.

Yeah, and so what? He isn't a representative for the Painesville city employees!

 
At June 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM , Anonymous REW said...

He IS a representative of a union that costs public dollars...meaning your tax dollars.The problem seems to be how can he be a member of the city administration that SPENDS public money and a leader of another entity that RECEIVES public money. It may not come out of the same checkbook but its the same taxpayer footing the bill. Maybe Werner will be a bang-up union rep since doing a good job will directly affect his pay-check; but can't prove it by me from his performance as councilman.

 
At June 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only person
Hal represents is Hal. Don't think for one minute the other groups in OAPSE won't be watching him.
Then again he might talk Dr. Hanlon to death?

 
At June 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

REW said...He IS a representative of a union that costs public dollars...meaning your tax dollars.>>

So what? They work for a living and they deserve to be paid, just as you are paid for whatever you do!

 
At June 22, 2010 at 4:52 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

With Werner a union rep everyone in the school Administration will earn their money just having to listen to him.

 
At June 22, 2010 at 7:20 AM , Anonymous REW said...

To 10:54...You are absolutely right that they deserve to be paid just like anyone else that works for a living. Unions serve an important protective function for the average worker. My concern is whether Werner can look after the interests of the taxpayers of Painesville and his union members AT THE SAME TIME. Someone will get the short end of the stick; either union members that deserve zealous representation and don't get it.....or city taxpayers that deserve the same thing. I'm not anti-union at all...only against representation that might not live up to the bill.

 
At June 22, 2010 at 2:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's another problem. With union "solidarity" how does Hal even think about voting against the city's unions?
Hal is asking for a problem he didn't need.
I agree Hals for Hal and anybody not driving a yellow bus should be concerned.

 
At June 22, 2010 at 6:54 PM , Anonymous city resident in 2 said...

Has Hal made his union position known with the residents of ward II?
Over the past couple of months you have seemed to cool towards Hal is there something your not telling us?

 
At June 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

Nothing I'm not telling you. I lost faith in Hal even before the election he won. [ask the people who know me] Little statements he made didn't add up. After he was elected. I met a fellow Harvey grad from the class of 68 at a council meeting she was very upset because it seems her mother who must be in her late 70's or early 80's was doing some hairdressing on the side in her home. She did this for her old friends as a favor. Well after Hals election he called the police and had them measure one of her friends cars that must have been a little closer then six feet to a nearby fire hydrant. He wanted the vehicle towed and ticketed.
With all the problems we have here in town this was how he was going to flex his muscles?
The man made promises that have never come close to even being discussed. Yet he has time for this B.S.

 
At June 23, 2010 at 7:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder why Hal didn't make a public statement during the councilmans time at the last meeting? Maybe he didn't want us to be aware?

 
At June 25, 2010 at 7:04 AM , Anonymous REW said...

Maybe Mr Werner's laying low until his publicity machine figures out how to handle this situation. Maybe the powers-that-be told him to just ignore the situation and it would probably blow over...after all...that method works for city management quite well. Or just maybe he knows he's a one-hit wonder and was just trying to quietly prepare for the future without a council seat. In any event I'm sure he didn't expect the criticism/questions that he's getting on the subject. The chickens are now coming home to roost Mr Werner. This little episode should be giving you an indication of what kinds of questions you will be faced with if you should run for re-election. (And I STILL feel sorry for those union members.)

 
At June 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I miss "Wild Bill" Horvath.

 
At June 25, 2010 at 6:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it just me, or is it like chalk on a blackboard when Hal say's Rita at a council meeting?

 
At June 25, 2010 at 7:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's funny 3:36, but the only thing I can think of that is good about Werner's being in office, is that it got rid of Horvath. That was definitely a good thing. Now we need to find someone decent to replace Werner. Maybe we can find a Maverick or a Marshall Dillon.

 
At June 25, 2010 at 8:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 6:39...if its any comfort...you are not alone in cringing when Werner speaks.

 
At June 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM , Anonymous fedup in 2 said...

Could we drop the Hal Werner stuff? The next thing you know he'll start cruisin' ward 2 in that orange Nazi staff car again!

 

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