"THE ANSWER MY FRIEND IS BLOWING IN"
JT. is back, with his answer to Karens question.
No time to get mad, lifes to short. The short version of "The Answer" as it will be known to future generations {the one that disappeared] is that there is actually a $24,000 bill owed.
When I checked previously I used the names of the owners and so forth, not the address. KAREN said that there was a $15K bill, but I found there is a much bigger one than that. However there is a dispute over the true owner of what shop and store and so on, but it's being looked at. The only problem, I was led to believe that could be an issue is how long it's been. It may not be collectible.
It is not in my hands but the capable hands of the utilities division of collections dept.
I am always about the truth no matter who is right and wrong. JT.
JT. thank-you for your honest answer. TERM>>
posted by terminator1 @ 7:02 PM
37 Comments
37 Comments:
Capable hands of the collection division? They have had it what 15 years? The same bunch sends people 125.00 shut off notices.
Couldn't have said it better, anonymous. Capable hands?!!!! What a joke. And this store owner now gets honored as business of the year. Another joke.
what are you guys even talking about?
i sense they are gonna take a butt whipping over this
215 E.Jackson St. The bill that wasn't paid to the city when it closed up, before it became the Post Office. $24,000 and they send shut-off notices to residents for $150.00. Even in that building that had to be 6 months.
G.E.
I wonder if this gets added to the Power Factor in our bills. Karen seems to know more than we give her credit for. Wonder how many other unpaid bills there are. Thanks
M.S.
You people worry about $24,000 in a city with an $80 million dollar budget. That doesn't seems to be out of line. Yes we have over $1 million dollars in unpaid reciepts but over what 5 10 years. Its all in the cost of doing business, and the city does it's best to keep the number down.
F.D.
JT. I have a feeling that Taco just doesnt taste as good anymore, Thanks for the truth.
N.L.P.
F.D. you are missing the point. That is $24,000 for one customer that was given a slide and then allowed to open under a new name and recognized as outstanding. Why give a business a $25,000 slide and then go after the residents? Should not be selective enforcement.
Please no names, the person and place are both disputing the bill, Maybe the collection dept. will some day straighten it out.
Now am I to believe a businessman in town closed a store, left a $24.000 utility bill. Moved across town opened another store and received an award?
If this is true more than the collection dept. should take a butt whipping. This is just tocrazy to be true.
The city most of had some say about the liquor licence. Pay or maybe we will fight the transfer?
If this is true, it is ridiculous. I had a rental house, and one of the tenant's was delinquent on their bill for three months. I was never told that they were delinquent by the City, until I received a call from someone in the utility department telling me that I would owe the past due amount if the tenant didn't pay it within 30 days.
I'm not sure what the rule or law is on this, but even if the landlord is responsible to pay any delinquent tenant bills, then the City should have an obligation to contact the landlord the first day the tenant is delinquent. Then the landlord could either collect form the tenant or have the City turn off the electric. The City can't let it accrue for three months, then tell the landlord, oh, by the way, you owe us $200. They wasted their time coming after me for that, when I didn't even know that the amount was due, but they let $24K slide so someone could scoot to the other side of town and reopen? No comprende?
May be crazy, but it is true!
There is no evidence of anyone being given preferential treatment. No evidence the city is wiping the bill clean without trying to collect. It is unpaid as of now and disputed. When the dispute is resolved, if the city then gives them an unwarranted pass then complain. But you are jumping the gun to complain now. You are trying to find fault with the city whereever you can, but you should not succeed in this case until the city actually does something wrong. This is why people complain about the people on this site being whiners and spreading misleading rumors. The blog has been reduced to the same level of discussion that exists on the News Herald site.
Get over the award, it had nothing to do with the city, it was awarded by the Chamber of Commerce.
Just another "warped" fact to create controversy.
And, the amount owed is being contested and no final determination has been made that I have heard of.
"Warped" fact? To the city apology dept. how many years, sorry decades will it take to resolve this? Painesville Citys Government creates most of the controversy not the blog. Yes, the chamber gives the awards out, but the Painesville Plaque Dept. hands them out. Plus on a personal note the chili there ain't that great!
$24,000 isn't a warped fact, its money owed by someone to the city of Painesville.
Oh my gosh, what is the banter here?
Resident folks are issued a cut-off notice after a short time period. A former Business, who negates their utility A/P to this city has been ignored for a very very long time. Leave this to the collections
Dept. of the City of Paine. There is absolutely no collections dept. in this city at all - other than they have a venue to seek out just residential folks and not business entities for their deliquent bills.
Collect back enormous charges for energy - because they did not do this when they should have will now cost this city money for the litigation process. Shame on this city CM for not doing this immediately and properly.
Do not ever attempt again to collect from a resident, when you do not have the business sense to collect from a deliquent business of $24,000.00 dollars.
Deliquent residents of $125, 150, 175, 200, 255, 325, 450, and so on, is a harassment issue because you allowed a business to be deliquent way beyond any resident back payments.
The collection of any debt in the State of Ohio is to be equal and fair. Your policies are way bent out of sight.
Your lack of actions against a business (which I know just favors them to become another entity for the business tax) is in violation. Fair debt issues are written for everyone. The fact that you have home rule, does not negate your Charter from adhering to the rules of fair collection of a debt. Debt collection is universal - go read it CM.
Shame on all of you for violating the collection process that you must adhere to.
wHEN YOU FILE CHAPTER 13 YOU WIPE OUT WHAT YOU OWE AND YOU CAN OPEN UNDER NEW NAME
Term, have you forgotten in this country you are innocent until proven guilty?
If the person is protesting it and after all this time the city hasn't collected have you even considered that it is not a slam dunk case and maybe the city can't really prove he owes it?
I agree with above, only this whole post is warped.
Let me ask anyone one question I have been reading this blog. since September of last year and have received more information about the city I live and work in then from CH.12, newspaper, and newsletters. The above reasons why this post is warped, "maybe the city can't prove he owes it," "no final determination has been made,"it goes on and on. The final answer is the people running things just plain seem to be incompetent. As a business person in town I don't really care about personalities but money seems to be leaking all over this town.
The question Term, JT. or anyone else should ask is if that bill is still on the books after all these years does the city consider it an asset or a liability? What reason would they keep this outstanding bill on he books? Try to be positive its not like they lost millions of dollars like they did about 15 years ago betting interest rates were goimg up when they were coming down. I wonder if that still on the books?
Tax debt employee is probably lying about their employment. You don't know how debt collection works. They do not have to collect in order of who owes them the most or who owed them first. AND everyone is entitled to dispute what they are claimed to owe. Don't use this site to mislead people like most other posters do. I am glad I know you are full of it, I just hope other realize as well.
LOL perhaps "Tax Dept Employee" ought to try posting sober. . .Seems to post under a few different names but all incoherent.
Term and the rest of the racists in town are after this man and business because he saters to Painesville growing Hispanic population, without him in town we would all be going to Redi-Go and other gringo stores in town . Tell the truth that is where your anger comes from.
Oh, I just figured out who you're talking about, good clue!
Oh Lord, you mentioned Hispanics, this thread is doomed now. . .that's a huge issue for so many people - ever check out the Lake County forums on cleveland.com? YIKES!
Anonymous, are you saying that just because this man has opened a hispanic store, that he should be exempt from taxes and bills and everything else that the americans pay? The fact that he stuck the city for $25,000 would have been brought up no matter what type of business he opened again in Painesville. You are just blowing smoke to divert attention from the real issue. That fact that he took the city for $25,000. No matter what race.
To the poster that mentioned "gringo's". I have always been a supporter of the hispanic population here, quoting many trips to the restaurants and stores on my own site. But I do not support name calling and my guess you would be all over others that did the same. The term you used is not a term, no pun intended buddy, or endearment, however a slight against a certain population in this town. I always tell my kids, "start calling names, and you turn off ears". No one will listen when you talk ignorant and name calling is the highest form of ignorance.
To everyone else, remember that amount although high, reflects most likely a 6 month bill there. A grocery store uses an enormous amount of power and if there was a bankruptcy that would have negated the bill. It is unknown at this point and like I said, out of my hands. JT
JT. chill I've been a member of St.Marys Church here in Painesville and when the last Preist was transfered here from his missionary post, he mentioned to his congregation that he was being transfered to a "gringo" church in America.
Gringo is not bad.
like calling one a (a** ho**)
every one has one but it is not nice to call any one by that.
leave the name calling go there is too much to talk about...
Talk about an A** HO**
check this out
Gringo (feminine, gringa) is a Spanish and Portuguese word used in Latin America to generally denote people from the United States, but in some cases it is also used to denote foreign non-native speakers of Spanish (physical appearance i.e. race often plays a role), usually from northern Europe or Canada--especially English-speakers.[1] Anglophones may consider the word pejorative, and dictionaries such as the American Heritage Dictionary classify gringo as "offensive slang," "usually disparaging," and "often disparaging."[2] However, Hispanophones disagree on whether or not gringo is derogatory; it is not considered as such by the authoritative
Thank-you for posting this answer, I guess the answer is who you talk to if its offensive slang. It always seemed that way to me. anyone else with an opinion?
When the hispanics call us gringos I would say that 99% of the time they are using it in a derogatory manner, which you can tell by the way they use it. I do not call them by their derogatory names, and I don't appreciate it when they use gringo.
Grow up, and how do you know 99% are ?
I am grown up and my eyes are open. Why don't you open yours before it's too late.
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