Thursday, March 5, 2009

"WEVE ONLY JUST BEGUN"

Karen left a little message for a few of you, I thought it was pretty good. TERM>>

Well JT. Maddog, and especially you Dave, Just because a woman gets a little assertive Dave here thinks I nead a dose of Big Bob. Now its starting to make sense about the silence coming out of city hall. Maybe the 3 stooges work there and see nothing wrong with the daily lovefest going on there. They might just approve of it. Sorry Dave my husband of over 15 years takes care of all my needs even without Chopin and a secret soup. Big Bob has embarrassed himself, his profession, his employer the City of Painesville, and yes all his colleagues at city hall.
Almost 800 hits on a web.site brings the response " I can only wonder what else is going on down there?" Thats the question that many of my friends and neighbors have. When the silence is a sign of defiance from the people in power we have bigger problems than what first appears on the surface.
Mr. Hada no you may not put a sign in our yard this year, nor will my family be in attendance at the ELK Club this year, it appears you are willing to go along with this charade. To the other 6 councilman do your damn job!
At least one of you are in a position of a little power and should demand an investigation. Yes Maddog you brought up scruples, where are yours? Maybe its not to late to grow some.
With Love KAREN

40 Comments:

At March 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"OUCH"

 
At March 5, 2009 at 11:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No OUCH from her,

Karen and Term.
Are you that damn dumb ?

Do you think the city will tell everyone they are checking in to this matter ?

No they will not, that is not the way to do things, they have rules about that.

Get real.

and Karen your remark about grow some, was out of line........

 
At March 6, 2009 at 2:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I keep waiting during election years for people in this city to get a clue.

Everyone complains about the way things are run and yet other than Hal who is new we vote the same council people in year after year. If things are this bad how does Hada at what 28 years?, Abby 16years?, Fountain 8-12 years?, Becks 12 years?, Hach 8 years?, Mr. North End 12 years, how do they explain the problems?, point to each other and claim non-cooperation.

When will we finally elect a professional business type person that understands leadership and how to work with others.

We wonder where our problems come from?
1. Hada, retired school teacher and wrestling coach
2. Hach, works for his dady's company
3. Fountain, used to work for a non-profit housing assistance company, not sure what he is doing now.
4. DelaMotte, County worker
5. Werner, Bus driver and piano tuner
6. Becks, hmm, professional student, really not sure what she does.
7. Flock, it doesn't matter, he figured out screw the rest of the city as long as the North end likes him he gets re-elected.

What on this list gives us confidence they are qualified to make decisions on, $80 million budget, Employees that we rely on, Long term planning that will bring this city back, hard decisions that the city needs but are unpopular, regulations that protect our rights and freedoms?


Now, these are all good people, with their hearts in the right place but are they really qualified to run this city? My opinion is after all those years they have proved we need some experienced private sector business people in there making decisions. (not CEO's, just in the trenches, making it work type managers)

It is never going to change until the people of Painesville figure out they need to quit electing on the "good ole boy" standard and start looking at "who can get the job done?".

 
At March 6, 2009 at 5:15 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

karen you are never happy about anything. you accuse me of approving of something that i don't. you don't stick to the subjects of the blog and you are pretty much rude from what i have seen on your writings on jt's blog. everything from you is negative. does the sun ever shine in your yard?

if you knew me you would not ask where my scruples are. they are on the line every day. i dont approve of cheating. you wont see me being friends, but i will have to be professional.

if you would also note this stuff is being written by an ex-wife, and being taken as gospel.

good luck and i hope your miserable life gets better.

maddog.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 5:24 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow !
Standing ovation for the poster above!
You are right on the money!

Now how do we do this?

 
At March 6, 2009 at 5:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont think Karen got any last night.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 6:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe is probably so relieved Karen is not coming this year.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 6:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Karen what's your point?

 
At March 6, 2009 at 7:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

she is frustrated!

 
At March 6, 2009 at 7:41 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen learn the difference between immoral and criminal.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

be a winner not a whiner

 
At March 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Real smooth Karen, lets just totally peeve off the council. Sounds like your taking this way too personal.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM , Blogger Big John said...

Well, a baseless attack when I choose to stay out of the rumor mill. I feel bad that you needed to resort to name calling and will not stoop to your level. All I have ever done was to promote positive change and some still feel the need to be rude and offensive. I feel sorry for you, honestly. JT

 
At March 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess what ... when the personal and professional life of a public servant is spinning out of control, any public figure without a labotomy knows that in order to mitigate damages - a public statement is warranted...

What am I thinking ... when Bob's 3rd wife was found dead on the bikepath ... not even an investigation...

shhh....Painsville is sleeping & shrouded in hushhushville of the last century

 
At March 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

No investigation? Ask the agency who had jurisdiction of the incident, and make sure you ask the right people, not the obvious.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

alphagirl, welcome to this site, I was wondering when you would find us. Please feel free to post facts concerning Painesville, First off the ladys suicide was investigated by Lake Metro Park Rangers { sworn Deputy Sheriffs] because she was found on Lake Metro Park property.
Yes there are many waiting for a public statement.

JT. I think you were painted with a broad brush by Karen, you and maddog are known as an honorable people that said, I would think a person like you would want a statement from city hall to find out if its from a rumor mill,

 
At March 6, 2009 at 2:46 PM , Blogger Big John said...

What are statements anyway, fact? NO. They are just words. All of these rumors have not been looked at very closely but I would like to point something out to everyone here. After reading the "emails" that were copy and pasted into the blog, did anyone else notice all of the problems with them?

In one of them in the date section it mentions the day Friday twice ina row. Do you think a computer would make that mistake? NOPE, but I bet the person RE-WRITING the words would have.

I also noted that in alphagirls posts here, she uses the tell tale(...)in her posts as well as he ones that are SUPPOSED to be from Baetzel. It seems to be a slip of habit unless that person is the same person that wrote those emails as well. And if that be the case, if she did write them, did she fabricate them or write them verbatim.

I do not doubt that alphagirl has some past that she regrets with him, but I look at the fact and don't participate in the rumors. Come at me with cold hard fact and we will talk, that is what I have preached since the day I started here. JT

 
At March 6, 2009 at 3:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

JT, I showed a systems admin friend alphagirl's blog and he felt the "emails" could very easily be faked.

If they are real how did alphagirl get them, is what I want to know.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

face it - you don't want the facts jt -

thou do protest too much

oh all was good in never never land until a tiny voice speaks the truth ... it's a sound you are not used to hearing - i understand

go back to sleep now

sweet dreams!

 
At March 6, 2009 at 5:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen you are such a (being polite)not winner. Seek the sunshine girl. You still can be happy

 
At March 6, 2009 at 5:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

We want to hear the plus side from Karen. Karen what is good and what could be better for you in this town. Express it!

 
At March 6, 2009 at 5:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen

give us a break. Get real. And most of all, get you some!

Life is too short

 
At March 6, 2009 at 6:46 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who in their right mind cares if council is peeved off. They have no credibility. We can only hope Hada was a better teacher than council president. What a leader.
G.E.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 6:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen you are crazy. You need some Big Bob loving so you could be a beta blog girl. Talk moor junk.

JT said nothing, you just hate.
Stop your stuff. Rude is being polite as they refer to you as.

JT, thanks for classing up this site from now and then again.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did not see any cold hard fact yet. Alpha girl is still a jilted lover. Karen wants to be one and Term is still getting them riled up.

And so goes the days of our lives...but wait there is more...stay tuned.... alpha girl has made her debut here. karen is a hating that jt, maddog and dave.

Painesville Rocks

Painesville Rocks

Painesville Rocks

 
At March 6, 2009 at 7:35 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey - how about asking the systems admin friend about the painesville city hardrive - certainly - the doubters will trust what lies beneath a mere delete button ... read my blog log ..."how to kill a hard drive"

but if a secretary was responsible for Nixon's I am not a liar blank tape ... god knows what has happened in what bob calls a computer system mess at the hall & I am paraphrasing - you can read how he told Lynn to hide their emails to each other on my blog

I love a parade!

 
At March 6, 2009 at 7:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

So tell us alpha girl, how did you get his emails? If we are to believe you then you got to confess or reveal on the site. This should be a story or a good chapter. Give it up Jolie.

 
At March 6, 2009 at 8:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

G.E.

I think Karen does, she run off with her mouth. Joe knows who she is. Joe's in and your not. Call Joe up and tell him your name if you dont care. I bet you don't tough guy.

 
At March 7, 2009 at 7:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indeed, alphagirl, HOW DID YOU GET THESE ALLEGED EMAILS? Hmmm? If you got them legally somehow, then you shouldn't be afraid to say. If you somehow got them illegally, then my question to you is - what's more likely to be prosecuted - some hanky panky on company time, or unauthorized access to a government entity's computer system? Hmmm? Any guesses, kids?

 
At March 7, 2009 at 7:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of this Bob Baetzel and Lynn White love affair has drawn so much attention as of late. Could we all be wasting our energy caught up in another attempt to mitigate the intense boredom of our lives? Bob's alleged problems sure make mine feel small.

I think all of these accusations are entertaining but unsubstantiated until Alphagirl tells how she obtained the mails. Perhaps she broke some laws herself?

Bring some substance to your accusations(...)We are waiting(...)

 
At March 7, 2009 at 7:58 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Becareful of what you ask for, maybe alphagirl would like to bring this all out in a court trial.

 
At March 7, 2009 at 11:04 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

be careful what you wish for ...

 
At March 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

we wish you'd tell us how you got those alleged emails, but you're not gonna answer that question, are you?
so much for your credibility. oh well, the adventures of big bob are certainly entertaining in a sleazy sort of way.

 
At March 7, 2009 at 2:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

so karen is it yes or

No

 
At March 7, 2009 at 4:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen ?

jt, maddog and dave want to know?

Will you love me forever???

 
At March 7, 2009 at 5:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Karen where you at? or is the 15 year itch working. Have fun Mr. Karen.

 
At March 7, 2009 at 5:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would bet

NO

 
At March 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

call the news team - television & newspapers - and i will reveal all

 
At March 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, yeah, yeah, alphagirl. we're waiting. . .

 
At March 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

what television station are affiliated with?

 

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