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Rumors are circulating around town about a demonstration on Veterans Park and in front of the New Market Mall where Congressman's David Joyces office is located.
Many feel our Congress is overreaching.
This is in the planning stages and it seems to be in response to Congress wanting to get rid of their ethics rules. Plus the repeal of the ACA without a replacement. Medicare also came up in a conversation and I don't remember that being an issue in the campaign. A President -elect who has more faith in a criminal named Julian Assange then is own intelligence resources. Along with a bromance between Trump and Putin.
Now this 'gathering' is scheduling is planned for Saturday January 14, 2017 at 12:00 PM.
Myself it can be very cold on a January Saturday.
This could wait for spring but if enough people believe now is the time?
I see a very rocky time for ourcountry
There seems to be a growing resistance to this administration the same as the Tea Party in 2009.
I will keep you posted and if anything more comes of this I will let you know.
posted by terminator1 @ 9:10 AM
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31 Comments:
The only problem is people in this country don't know how to listen or read. The ethics thing has already been done in, no one ever said they were getting rid of the ACA without replacing it, and I don't remember anyone ever threatening Medicare.
Some of these people would be better off spending their time volunteering at a local charity or hospital.
9:28 Ethics done in? Maybe you should listen a little closer. Many including me heard 'Postponed' to a later time. Read Trumps tweet.
Repeal and Replace fine repeal it but don't pretend they have something ready to go. I heard Paul Ryan claim to overhaul Medicare.
Time will tell. The 5 states with the highest ACA enrollment voted Trump.
Medicare could use an overhaul, like a lot of government systems.
Maybe you think when a politician says overhaul; it automatically means reduction of benefits? I'd like to detect and prosecute those who are getting rich cheating Medicare out of $$$. Those $$$ could be used for real patient needs. People work their ass off to pay for top notch health insurance because they know the best providers are increasingly refusing Medicare patients. Really good doctors don't need a lot of Medicare patients. They build great practices on bills the private insurance companies pay. So how are we going to make Medicare great?
9:28, you are correct. The ethics repeal was voted down. And Joyce voted it down. So why the heck would they protest his office on this? Just need something to protest, I guess. And of course they are not just killing ACA without having a replacement in the works and a replacement has been worked on for months. It will probably be replaced in parts. But it will be replaced. TERM you sure do like to instigate, but only when it is Republican related.
4:50/8:21/9:28 time will tell?
Its more like read my lips "Mexico will pay for the wall"
Instigate? Just watching .
Will someone show us this replacement plan?
Could this be why??
Anti-Trump Groups: National Protests Could Include Civil Disobedience
by Brian Latimer
Latino immigrant rights groups say they are gearing up for the "fight of their lives" that may include civil disobedience during nationwide rallies planned the week before the inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump.
United We Dream, CASA, Center for Community Change, Voces de la Frontera have teamed up with the SEIU, Planned Parenthood the Human Right Campaign to organize a national day of protests and activities around immigrant and refugee rights on January 14. There are 45 planned events in nearly 20 states across the country, and the largest demonstration will be at Washington DC's historic Metropolitan AME Church.
"There is no question for anyone in the immigration rights movement that we will not have to use every tool in our arsenal," said Kica Matos, director of immigrant rights and racial justice at the Center for Community Change. "Is civil disobedience on the menu for what we will engage in? Eventually, it is unfortunately, likely."
The organizers are calling for protections for immigrants and refugees of all racial and ethnic groups. The rallies will focus on immigration rights, but other groups involved with climate justice, reproductive rights and workers' rights are involved with planning the activities and participating.
"On January 14, we want every senator and every member of Congress to see us and to hear our words, and we want President-elect Trump to understand the might, the resiliency and the power of our immigrant families and the immigrant rights movement," Matos said.
The movement calls for respect for the civil rights of young immigrants and those who benefited from the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals programs, as well as immigrant families, refugees at risk of being deported to violent places and Muslims.
"President-elect Donald Trump's mass deportation plan to separate family and loved ones has generated fear throughout the immigrant community, but we will not hide in the shadows," said Cristina Jimenez, executive director and co-founder of United We Dream, a group that advocates for young immigrants.
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At rallies across the U.S., protesters plan to call for more sanctuary areas at religious centers, municipalities and counties; these would be places the authorities do not scout out and report non-violent undocumented people to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
"We'll lift the voices of immigrant and refugee leaders of all backgrounds and affirm our shared values around unity, love, resistance, defense and sanctuary," Matos said. "We'll not only pronounce our shared commitment to protect and defend immigrant families from attack — but we'll also launch our movement's demands of this new administration, which include respect for the civil rights and dignity for the recipients of DACA, for undocumented immigrant families, for refugees at risk and for Muslim families."
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/immigrant-rights-groups-plan-rallies-say-civil-disobedience-n703646
10:42 Who the Hell is Brian Latimer? The people I spoke with were more concerned about the ACA and people losing coverage. They never mentioned illegals to me.
Overall I think this might be a mistake on the part of the illegals? Out of sight out of mind. Chances are they will make things worse for themselves. Please keep the Mexican flags at home!
Isn't the line "when times go bad when times go rough" from Second Hand News?
So why would you not post my comment? No bad words. Just facts.
5:54 You are correct. Thanks for the heads up and a better title
4:51 Don't you realize they were invited in? They came in "Legally" even got the Cherokee Red pop on the way in. They all got paper's from Sitting Bull!
And as an after thought they don't mind being lied to about the Wall! Just one of a host of lies coming down the track.
I'm not 318 but I am white and I agree 100 percent with the post. Leave - you are here illegal. You popped out several anchor babies, only trying to keep yourself anchored here. Heaven forbid the parents are deported and those poor children separated from them. Too bad: You knew what you were doing from the beginning you arrived and didn't get your visa or green card. No sympathy from me either. And protest? If those against immigration held a protest we would be called racists and worse. I want you out too so I don't have to be bilingual to keep a job here.
Can't speak for 4:51 but I can assume with the crumbling infrastructure in our country a 10 billion dollar wall would not be at the top of anyone's list. Remember we were promised Mexico would pay for it! Let them vote to appropriate the funds for this project. See if that passes?
Sour grapes? More like caution. Luck will not play apart in Trump's failures. AS I mentioned I pray I don't have to say "I told you so" the price of his failure will be to high for this country. You arrogant little person you seem to now have some doubt? Don't fret you and your Ilk will someway blame it all on Democrat's. Hope it doesn't "rain" on your parade! and you miss out on this 'golden' opportunity.
This is 4:56 to 10:06... I have no doubt that he will build the wall, and I have no doubt that Mexico will pay for it. I have no doubt that that is the most important thing that needs to be done to save our country from mass illegal immigration. I have no doubt that if the Democrats had won, and Hillary had left the borders open and legalized all the illegals, that within one year, America would be destroyed with no hope of recovery. I have no doubt that someone like you who is now calling everyone who voted for Trump, "ilk," does not have the brain capacity to grasp those concepts. I have no doubt that your small, little mind and mouth will continue to say stupid things for the next four years. You lost. Get over it.
4: I myself have many doubts. I know I won't pay for the 'Wall' if for no other reason people in congress will not appropriate 12 Billion dollars for this project, and Mexico isn't going to pay for it either. Face it you were conned! Hillary could have never legalized anybody without an act of Congress. I have no clue of your brain's Capacity but you better look at the Russians at our doorstep, and why and who put them their. They have something on somebody and a wall ain't going to help. No sucker your the losser! do svidaniya !
1:02. And your small, little mind and big mouth just keep right on saying stupid things. What?...are you ten?! This is why the Democratic Party lost so many members, like myself. Grow up for God's sake.
OMG 102, listen to you. The Russians are coming!!! The Russians are coming!!! Get a reasonable grip, man. We do actually talk to the Russians sometimes, as we are in a war in the same country as them, for one thing. Stop with the stupid conspiracy theories..."The Russians are at our doorstep." The Democrats could not win the election on policy, ideas or results, so they tried to win it by screaming Racists; saying Trump was the devil; pointing out that they weren't Trump; and trying to make conspiracy theories about Russia, Russia, Russia, and THEY ARE STILL DOING IT. They ran on nothing but stupid s##t, just like Obama has conducted his presidency. Look around man -- our country is almost over. You're looking like a jerk...you get that, right? LoL
1:02. So now WHAT? We're being INVADED BY RUSSIA because of TRUMP??? HaHaHaHaHaHa.
4:8/642 No one said anything about an invasion? I'm talking collusion. I believe Putin has something on Trump, maybe he owes Russia a ton of money? That said only a fool would think that if Putin 'likes' you it's an asset. Putin is for Putin I believe his goal is to reconstruct the former Soviet Union and don't stand in his way! Maybe he has found an American leader who is easily manipulated? I hope what investigations find will be so filled with humor?
3:09 Why are you such a little angry person?
Just so everyone is clear. The Press questions the President the President doesn't question the Press. That's how it's been for over two-hundred years.
Just because you might not like the question's to bad.
10:40, 10:45, Maybe Trump owes Putin MONEY??!! Stop. Really, just stop. And Trump does not have to be disrespected during a press conference by the Democrats screaming at him, and who are looking more ridiculous every day, if that is even possible. Maybe Trump owes Putin money...give me a break.
4:49 What I am implying that without his taxes being made public we have no idea who he owes and how much he owes. Knowing this mans character if he had a tax report he was proud of he would show us? Find something on Trump it's only a matter of time. He has announced he has a replacement for Obamacare that covers more people, lower deductibles and covers everyone. Please bring it on. Every President, Clinton, Bush and Obama has tried to set a reset button with Putin now Trump believes he can get in the snake den? Let's not even bring up Trumps morals. Fun four years ahead! Tweet me with the policy!
so Trumpsters..... do any of you idiots remember Trumps pal Paul Manafort? Follow the money! Let me help..... a corrupt Ukraine government to Manafort to Moscow. oh wait we can't because he never released his tax returns.
As far as the wall goes...... do your homework and find out the numbers for illegal immigration across the Mexican border is at an all time low. who should you worry about? you might want to check the trail coming through Detroit, you won't like it.
so Trump trashes our Allies and the head of the CIA..... oh yeah this guy is going to save the country, in 4 years your sons and daughters could very well be marching off to war. I can only hope this morally reprehensible idiot is impeached. The sooner the better.
when does Trump adult? Even better when does this country realize this is not a reality show?
8:45: Never in a million years did I think that the Democrats could act worse than they did before the election, but now look what they are doing and saying after the election. They, and you, are just reinforcing for all the people who defected from the Democratic party, that they did the right thing, and they, and you, are just assuring that they will not come back. You lost. Get over it, you whiny, fake-news, temper tantrum throwing, baby.
2:18 Never in a million years did I believe a President-elect would call this country's Intel agencies Nazi's!.
Never did I think this President-elect show as much trust for the dictator of Russia as he does an Allies of the U.S. Chancellor of Germany. The intelligent agencies have kept from this country being hit wit another 9/11 for 1 years. Trump doesn't want to hear the truth he wants to hear what he thinks. Stay where you are did you ever think just maybe we don't want you back as you presently think? You will learn the hard way. The 'Wall' is pure symbolism. After WWI the French built something called the Maginot Line to keep enemies out. The whole time her enemies were figuring how to go over, under and around. They succeeded.
2:08 Great to hear a friendly voice!
On January 20,2017 at 9:00 am President Obama will walk into the Oval office for the final time. He will sit at his desk and sign a pardon for Hillary Clinton as well as the Clinton Foundation. Put the pen down and tell Donald "let's head over to the capital buddy" Mike drop!
4:15. I have no doubt that slimy Obama may pardon Clinton and also her foundation if he could. I'm not sure he can, though, because she has not yet been charged with the crimes. You lost. Get over it.
And what?...4:15, that will make you happy if he pardons Clinton and her foundation for their crimes instead of letting her be tried and charged? Answer: Of course it would. She and Bill are done with their crimes concerning their foundation, and their personal money train/theft ring is over. The foundation is crumbling. It has been exposed, and nobody is donating to it anymore. The crooks are finished being able to steal from their own charitable foundation. The Democrats lost by a resounding 10 states, and Trump won more counties than any president since Regan. And you are a wonderful example of why. Losers. Losers who are talking like losers, and acting as losers. You lost. Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa. You can try the case here until you're blue in the face, but you LOST. It's over. Mic drop! Hahahahahaha.
The Clintons are closing their crooked foundation. Now that they have been exposed as crooks, nobody is donating any money to it. It will be all over by April of this year, and that is a hell of a thing, 4:15, to be hoping for Obama to pardon them and also even bragging about the possibility of it. You act like you're in 4th grade, or the equivalent.You're making a fool of yourself, just like the rest of the Democrats are. If you think that will get you or your party anywhere, it's not; it's doing the opposite. Your whole party, like you, is throwing a kicking, screaming fit, and you, like them, all look like fools. You get that, right? I do expect you little babies to carry on like this for the next four years, and by that time, you should have lost at least half of the support you had this time.
7:06/4:52 & 5:02
First 5:02 If I was as miserable as you I probably wouldn't get out of bed. Your nastiness only to hide behind anonymous? I think no matter who gets elected or what they accomplish it's never enough for the likes of you.
7:06/4:52 Woke you up? We will all have to wait and see what transpires in Obama's final hours.
A final note to Reince Priebus, this is the United States of America it is not the POTUS job to tell people to attend a pageant, parade or even an inauguration. Last I looked it's a free country. I will not watch the inauguration so to be honest I don't watch the Academy Awards, Gold Globes and Grammy's. And I especially don't want to witness this train wreck from a front row seat! You can enjoy it. Your paying for it.
10:47. Thank you so much for your well wishes; I will enjoy it very much. Very kind of you.
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