Tuesday, June 7, 2016

"BREAKING THE RULES" ac/dc

 Speaking of downtown P'ville  As most of you by now realize that it is my belief that Your Vine or Mine will be closing by the end of July. Owners have a family farm to run.
More importantly the Lake County General Health District will be moving out to Heisley Rd. leaving another hole in Painesville Income Tax to fill. Just maybe that $6,000 or $22,000 is no longer viable to sustain in our economy? Maybe that was the need for the rush?

Then again like Tri-Point will the 'new' health department be not serviced by Laketran?



Black sheep and a renegade
Hot feet in the cool of the shade


Tara Grimm made a fine presentation of council proceeding using Robert's Rules.

I believe Mrs. Grimm will be an honest broker for not only the council but also the administration and residents.

For example;

A public body may only hold an executive session at a regular or special meeting, and a meeting that includes an executive session must always begin and end in an open session. In order to begin an executive session there must be a proper motion approved by a majority of a quorum of the public body, using a roll call vote. (Remember the cemetery issue?)

Also;

Take for example the state rule on executive sessions. "Personnel  matters" as an explanation don't meet state guidelines.

Another state rule? They can't even whisper to one another in an open meeting.

To his credit councilman DeLeone wished and council agreed to suspend Roberts Rules during the Visitor time. So although you still only have three minutes you can speak on a variety of issues. I believe  that any council member if they so wish could extend a person three minutes if that council person feels a need to have the whole statement heard. This should be part of the visitors time. No law about three minutes, anywhere.

In the future all visitors wishing to speak will sign in.

All Resolutions passed last night.

I was wrong the Ordinance Amending Appropriations for this fiscal year, It was about increasing DPO another $6,000. This item was left on first reading.

In visitor's time I brought up the increase for the DPO. Pretty much what I have mentioned here on the blog. That in the end the city must get their priorities in order.

David Polakowski Executive Director spoke of the need of the increase. (hospitalization was not mentioned) Look I'm not opposed to the DPO I just view it as throwing more good money after bad. Some of the logic I heard last night didn't make sense to me and if no one else calls a council person or attends the next meeting, this will pass. Maybe I'm just the lone wolf in the forest?

Mr. Fodor made a statement that he holds no position with the DPO he did at one time and our law director didn't see it as a conflict of interest but he has resigned and has one voting power on the DPO.

I also asked that the conflict between the city and the senior center be resolved. Presently you both look bad!

OF INTEREST;

Bids will go out for the demolition of the parking garage later this month. We should learn  the cost by the July meeting. (I think they are in for a surprise) councilman Fodor questioned where and what route will be taken of the removal. That's a good question. (  Please,Don't include Bank St.)

We received ONE bid for the water line and crib into the lake the EPA is in the process of reviewing it. I believe it is 700 feet shorter than planned?

Can this be true!

The Trumpster going to Europe to meet our Allies. Great they can listen for a while.

8 Comments:

At June 8, 2016 at 11:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe Your Vine is just being sold, not necessarily closing.

 
At June 8, 2016 at 5:28 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

11:46 That's great news , I just heard closing.
Still I wonder what kind of Tax dollars we will be losing with the LCHD moving? I heard they will leave a satellite office here. Hope it's more then what LakeHealth left us?
Also begs to ask the reasoning for increasing the parking lot on Washington St.?

 
At June 8, 2016 at 5:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know the DPO is so pathetic. They get a Farmer's Market with the hours of 12 noon to4:00 pm? I guess they must think everyone in Painesville doesn't have a JOB. This in the end will be another failure!
I have an idea lets have the car show on Friday from noon to 4?
This bunch isn't just a waste but is lame.

 
At June 9, 2016 at 6:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the reason for increasing the size of the parking lot is that on most days it has been full in the day time. Additionally with Party in the Park and Taste of Painesville coming up they certainly can use the space. It does not appear any major developer is waiting to come in.

 
At June 9, 2016 at 7:32 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

5:40 The hours of the farmers market make little sense. Unless they have somewhere else to be a 5:00 PM? Your analogy of the car show is spot on. Yes in the end Painesville residents as well as farmers will lose. I don't understand the reasoning either?
6:14 What a surprise! Former CM claimed as the city looking to tear the old hospital down developers were clamoring to get started on a new project?
Wonder when and if the health department site gets removed. No one will purchase it , it's in the same flood zone as Millstone was? The county give it and the county take it away! leaving us with what?
Painesville will downtown will be busy this summer, tearing down the senior center, the parking garage as well as the health department. all this removal as Richmond St. gets repaved next year. Oh and soon the county jail . Addition by subtraction I guess.
A question all of us should ask, how much and where is the money coming from to construct these parking lots? Ask a council person.

 
At June 12, 2016 at 4:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

In defense of the farmers market, a few years ago they were open till 6 or 7. Guess what, no one came (or at least not enough to make it worth the vendors while). Therefore, the change to 12-4..most business is done by the county and city workers. They had it later, it wasn't supported by the community....

 
At June 12, 2016 at 5:15 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

4:07 So are you telling us the only purpose for the farmer's market is for city and county workers? I never realized how many got off work before 4:00 pm? So in reality residents don't shop downtown. Who would have ever guessed?

 
At June 13, 2016 at 2:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do they post some kind of signs around the square when they are there to let people know? Maybe it needs to be in the square? Seems like more people would want to come at different hours, so maybe something needs to change.

 

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