"FREEZE FRAME" j geils
It's so cold I'm watching the golf channel to try to remember what warm weather even looks like.
I'm going out on a limb here to see what you agree or disagree with me on this subject.
School calamity days.
Recently as last year Governor Kasich increased calamity days from three to five days. ( at that time he called them extra sledding days) Now he is looking for the state legislators to increase this amount. Reminding us that student safety is our number one priority. I agree 100% with that goal. He also sights this weather "wrecks havoc on school budgets and schedules" I don't agree with that. Maybe the governor has forgotten or never had to provide child care on a "calamity day" for a child or children not going to school as in this case four straight days? That can wreck havoc on a family budget even missing work? also added expense.
Look teachers sign 185 day contracts, students are scheduled 180 days. Five calamity days are enough the school year should have to at least include 175 days, but then maybe our students don't need this amount of education? I understand teachers are under contract but if you don't want to add days at the end of the year, and Saturdays or add an hour to the school day to make-up for missed time. What are we teaching students on the importance of an education.
Do the bus drivers, cafeteria workers, night janitorial staff get paid for calamity days? Look my taxes never give me a spot to check off for calamity days? Should the taxpayers ask for a rebate for services not delivered?
Just want to know what your thoughts are on this issue.
posted by terminator1 @ 1:14 PM
47 Comments
47 Comments:
Having a brother who is a teacher, this is a little hard to write.
While "safety" of students is certainly very important, why can't teachers make it to where they work? They can certainly work on lesson plans, clean their classroom, whatever.
I worked for a private business and if I didn't make it to work, I didn't get paid unless I used vacation time. The difference of course is that we made widgets and we were not funded by tax dollars.
It seems like the only persons who get out of work on "calamity" days are the people supported by tax dollars.
Additionally, it makes me laugh when I hear that non-essential workers don't have to report. What is a non-essential worker and why are they only in government jobs?? Private businesses never have non-essential employees. You only get a job when a business has a need for an employee.
I guess I agree with you on this. Additionally, I would suggest that they forego the in-service days and such. Just more excuses for days out of the class room. When we were in school, a four day week was rare. Now they are the rule.
It is ridiculous. The legislature and governor are saying "it is a one time exemption." Well, what if the same thing happens next year? Why can't they potentially go to school on President's Day, Good Friday, Memorial Day, or add a day or two at the end. I don't get what the big problem would be. We are already falling behind the rest of the world in education. This definitely won't help.
The easiest solution, a school never closes. A "calamity Day" simply means we will not hold your childs absence against him/her if you as a parent choose to keep them home.
The calamity is that we are constantly told the importance of an education and at the same time some leaders in Columbus, with the stroke of a pen can cut 5% of a students time in the classroom?
We are just at the end of January with February still to come. It would be interesting to see how many total days the state feels a student can miss?
Maybe an education is really non-essential?
Don't expect one educator to question the need to make up the calamity vacation days.
It's just a gift from the gods.
A non-essential worker? That sounds like an oxy-moron to me. I think everyone who works is essential no matter what they do. Though many of the people I work with think they are extra-double essential, maybe we should throw that "non-essential" word around the lunchroom a few times to knock em down a peg.
Slow down 7:34, you're grouping your non essential school teacher brother with all public employees. Not all tax paid employees get snow days. As a matter of fact I suspect the Policeman, Firefighter even the Electric Distribution serviceman worked harder due to the harsh weather conditions.
12:40
This is 7:34.
Try reading what I wrote and not what you think.
I am NOT lumping my brother in with nonessential workers in any other spot in government. They are completely separate.
Nor did I state that ALL tax payer paid for employees get days off.
I did ask, what is a non-essential employee and why are they ONLY found in government jobs? I never knew of a single private business that has non essential employees on their payroll. Private businesses actually have to produce something at a sellable cost OR they go out of business.
My job was outdoors so I know the hardships of bad weather. I simply want to know why public employees are given time off for bad weather. As a tax payer I would think you would want to know the same.
There is no accountability in government.
As a teacher in PCLS, I wouldn't mind going in on snow days...and have on occasion...even last week. I can get a lot of paperwork done...I don't think most teachers would be opposed to it, but that's my opinion....
There you go again 7:34, You said and quote, "There is no accountability in government" You are painting all government workers with a broad negative brush. I worked in a government owned utility. I never had a snow day, cold day or any other free paid day off. When I went on vacation they covered my position with overtime because I was essential. When the weather turned harsh I spent more time outside because of weather related problems. If they pay your brother to sit home when it gets cold outside then the powers to be have determined that your brother is non essential. By the way, my neighbor works at a private non government school he is non union and he was paid to not go to work! The problem is with the education system [public and private] not all government workers.
5:26
You answered the question I had with "I worked in a government owned utility". I completely understand where your point of view comes from.
You were a government worker!
You seem to be under the impression that I am blaming the "worker bees" (the folks who actually have work to do) in our government. Far from it, I am blaming the people in CHARGE of our various forms of government. If they actually were held accountable for their spending, I am pretty sure they wouldn't be giving days off, with pay, because the weather is bad. After all, the money they spend is ours, not theirs. Does that make it a little more clear to you?
You say "If they pay your brother to sit home when it gets cold outside then the powers to be have determined that your brother is non essential."
Are you saying that teachers are non-essential? I know I didn't say that.
Be perfectly clear, all schools receive government funding. I doubt that there is any school that doesn't get some form of governmental assistance. The reason your neighbor stayed home is most likely because all the public schools were closed and so there was no transportation provided. The fact that he is non-union had nothing to do with it.
My last point about schools (and this is not about anything else) is that I fail to understand why a school is closed yet the kids find their way to the malls, ski slopes, theaters, and so on. If the weather is so bad that schools are closed, there is no reason they should be anywhere else either.
Peace!
5:02/5:26/9:28 The question remains should schools have 3-5-? calamity days?
This is 12:40/5:26, Yes, I was a government worker "bee" and I'm glad you "completely understand where my point of view comes from". Peace right back at ya!
As far as Terms original question, right or wrong the State of Ohio determined that we have 5 calamity days for the 2013-2014 school year any more days off should be made up at the end of the year.
As long as they do the REQUIRED 180 days, I don't care how many more than that they schedule. Leave that up to the locals but he 180 should be required.
The other thing is to not use them in mid November or early December when it is 20* and windy. Use them when they are really needed.
Even when we disagree with each other we still find common ground. Make up the days missed and if not why not?
TERM
services not delivered?? your maintenance tech and buddy has not delivered services in years!!!
new schools will go down hill fast!
he has been a calamity for years!!
you think the new boss will take care of this problem??
TAX PAYERS BEWARE!!!!
9:07 My buddy? Please send me a email to the blog. I won't print it, but you seem to believe I know something that I don't.
Sorry term i saw a post march 2013
38 special and you did not reply maybe somebody just blowing off steam?
calamity days 3 if we have bad winter 5 days if it is still bad 7 don't give them 9 all at once they will use them! but it is for the safety of the kids! and we can not make the parents keep them home they go to moves and the mall that's on them!! they should stay home and have family time! stay off the roads! mom can help with homework??
2:56 Something to address the school board with on Monday?
I am looking into something Mentor has for calamity days called a "Blizzard Bag" anyone know how this works?
You had to opt in to the blizzard bags before the school year started. Basically, each teacher puts work online, and the students download, print it out and do it, and bring it back to school the next day. Considering many of our families do not have the internet at home, that was a wise move not to opt in...
9:33 That's not how it was explained to me by a Mentor parent. This should be looked into. I believe today is calamity day 10.
It's only 8, I believe, and you do need the internet,...
From what I understand about the Blizzard Bags is you have to buy into them before school starts. Work is done online. Children that don't have Internet access are given a hard copy.
Your district has to have 80% of the children do the work or it doesn't count and will have to make up the days anyway.
Next year we will go by hours not days. Calamity days will be gone.
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Im glad this blog is so accurate: You don't know about the blizzard bags and put out incorrect info. And what dif do snow days really make. Most of the kids DONT want to be in school anyway. Late, fake sick, hooky,skip or just have parent call them off. Then they become truent, go to court, order to back school, come back and start the cycle all over again. I blame it on poor parenting. Many parents just dont care and thats another cycle that needs to change too.
What are you all complaining about? If you had the benefits teachers do you'd be sitting in the lap if luxury too. Sounds like you are all just jealous. Retire or go on welfare then you too can have all the snow days you want with pay!
9:02 I asked for information. I didn't know about Blizzard Bags until this week.
9:09 We paid for 180 days is it to much to expect 180 days?
No, you didn't pay for 180 days, you forgot about the paid holidays entitled to. Do you get paid holidays? Im guessing if you dont you'll be after the employees for those next. WahWah
8:20 What are you talking about? there are 52 weeks in the year 5 working day in every week 5X52 =260 take out 10 days for holidays and you still have 250 days. The school year is 180 days 36X5=180 that's what we pay for. Soon it might be changed in Ohio to hours. ?????
10:00 I'll disagree about the states many red states take more from the feds than blue states. Look it up. And what makes you come to your conclusion?
What states get more welfare!
red or blue? all poor counties control the state that is how you man won OHIO and the office Pittsburgh controls PA. low information voters control the country
(8) OF THE 10 LOWEST RANKING STATES
ARE GOVERNED BY (DEMOCRATS)
how is that WHY??
1:32 Show me your list.
1:02 Sorry Rush,forget states now counties? Low information voters or voters tired of being pillaged by the rich like the Koch Bros.?
Show me what poll says most Americans want Obama care
look it up and 8 out of 10 poor city's are yours! liberals look it up who rush ?? MARK LEVIN is the man I am listening to him NOW!!!
love him true American
10:12Never said most Americans want Obamacare. I do.
First states now cities let's stick to your original statement of states. Will this "relationship" with Mark lead to anything?
HOW do you like Obama's
FARM BILL? just another TRILLION
did you know the GOVERNMENT is closed??? how can we get bye???
TRAIN WRECK hes your MAN
wait is was BUSH BUSH BUSH!
dont you just love COLLIN
why do you think he voted for Obama? the truth!
MSNBC true to your cause !!!
JOE going to run?? good luck
I like to listen to people and make
my up my own mind no . (relationship) the original statement was two parts you like a lib.chose to talk about what you want i was wrong! i wanted to say
Cites and counties that are doing very BAD they are mostly DEMS.
TRUE OR FALSE OBAMA won OHIO because of CLEVELAND AND THAT COUNTY IS VERY POOR AND WHO HAS RAN CLEVELAND FOR YEARS!!
I listen and watch msnbc the far left there is another Mark levin
far left i compare both sides lean right sorry dont get upset i can have a mind of my own ! you seem very Informed I hope my relationship with you will lead to a better country!!
11:31 YOU said states, YOU now blame me for your change? There was no two parts. Only one you couldn't prove.
Can't wait for my next post.
11:06 Obama's farm bill? The senate and the Congress wrote the farm bill.
General Powell probably voted the way he did after Bush and Cheney feed him lies about Iraq and ruined his reputation.
Powell will you for Obama for one reason
did the senate and congress have any thing do with going to war
bush hear we go again i think Powell knew allot about going to war GENERAL maybe??
I KNOW IT WAS BUSHES FAULT THAT FARM BILL WAIT WHO IS THE PRES NOW!
DON'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT POWELL NOW HE IS IN CORNER NOW!!
TERM I WAS WRONG IT IS COUNTY S NOT
STATES YOU ARE CORRECT! STILL! SAD? WE ARE AUGURING WHAT IS POORER
UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA APPLES TO APPLES I WAS WRONG HAVE YOU EVER BEEN WRONG? A GOOD PERSON WILL SAY IF THERE WRONG! I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH MY LIBERAL FRIENDS DON'T YOU MY FRIEND!
1:45 you do that and you will be racist! and may get beat up if it is at the school I think you are!
I agree square peg. We can get back on the school days at a latter
date. They have a good conversation
going. Both have good points.
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THEY VOTED TO LET THAT LAWYER THAT REPRESENTED THAT CONVICTED MURDERER BE ARE CIVIL RITES LAWYER THAT GUY HE HELPED. KILLED A 24 YEAR OLD POLICE OFFICER THOSE DEMOCRATS WOULD NOT LET THE WIDOW SPEAK WHAT A SHAME! PLEASE LOOK IT UP TERM!
DEMOCRATS 10
REPUBLICANS 8 ALL VOTED NO THANKS
FOR LOOKING-OUT FOR MY COUNTRY
AS some of your informed voters have mentioned before it is not a crime to represent a convicted murderer. Debo P. Adegbile worked as a legal Defense official for the NAACP he neither killed,or represented Mumia Abu-Jamal. I do agree this was a slap across the face to some of you. It's called payback.
Plus it gives you people something new to complain about.
6:42 I'm not mad at anyone. It would be interesting if you looked up the 10 poorest states find out if they are Red States and who runs them. Might open your eyes a bit. Peace.
i WILL SAY ALL 10 HAVE LARGE INTERCITY LOW INCOME POPULATION OF CONSISTENTLY VOTING DEMOCRAT
YES OR NO!
Term have you noticed everytime you post something about a week later a story appears in the N/H?
This is atleast the third time this has happened.
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