"MAGGIE MAY" rod stewart
"FOR MORE PRAIRIE STATE NEWS WATCH EYEWITNESS NEWS 5 WEDNESDAY AT 11:00 PM"
It's late September and .....I'd really like to know how we got into this Prairie State mess? Well.
December 3, 2007
RESOLUTION NO. 69-07 DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE THE FORM AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A POWER SALES CONTRACT WITH AMERICAN MUNICIPAL POWER-OHIO, INC. AND TAKING OTHER ACTIONS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH REGARDING THE PRAIRIE STATE ENERGY CAMPUS AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY
was given third reading.
Ms. McMahon stated this is the second coal burning power plant option that is being presented to the City by AMP-Ohio. This is a project developed by the Prairie State Generating Company. It consists of 1,528 MW twin coal fired electric generating facility, an underground coal mine, a coal combustion waste disposal facility and ancillary support equipment in Washington, St.Clair and Randolph counties in Illinois. AMP-Ohio purchased an 18.96% entitlement share in the project or approximately 300 MW. The other owners of this project are other municipal electric agencies from Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, and Northern Illinois. All permits have been issued for this project and it is prepared to begin construction. The City is considering 10 MW of electricity from this plant, which will probably be more like 7.2 MW because of over-selling. There are 78 participating members from AMP-Ohio involved in this project. The request from those 78 members totals 417.5 MW which is 117.5 MW more than the 300 MW allocation. Therefore if no additional energy is available each participant will be reduced on a prorate basis to a total of 300 MW. Therefore the City share would be reduced to 7.2 MW. The proposed contract is similar to the Hydro and AMPGS contracts and is a take or pay contract. The estimated cost of AMP-Ohio's share of the Prairie State project for construction is $3,112 per kilowatt or $3,112,000 per MW. With operatimg cost the estimated cost per MW of electricity will be $48.06 in 2013 not including transmission fees. This can be compared to the cost of MW electricity from AMPGS which was $56. Included in your packet is additional information on this project and additional analysis that compares the expected market price for electricity to the anticipated purchase price of power. This project was also reviewed at the September 10th public work session with City Council. AMP-Ohio is requesting legislation from participants no later than December 15th.
Motion by Mr. Hada, seconded by Mrs. DelaMotte that Resolution 69-07 be adopted.
On roll call, Mrs. DelaMotte, Messre. Fountain, Hach, Ms. Becks, Messer. Flock, Hada and Horvath answered "yes" Motion carried. Resolution No. 69-07 be adopted.
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Now council had to rely on facts and figures by the city manager. Where did Ms. McMahon pull that $48.06 MW figure out of her what? look not around $50.00/$60.00 but $48.06? Seems pretty exact. Where and who gave her that figure? Now at the last council meeting I stated the 'true cost of Prairie State power was $104.00 MW. Finance Director Unetic claimed $71.76? Now even at that price which I believe is wrong. That's still $23.70 MW higher than Ms. McMahon's claim and $55.94 MW than my claim does this still look like a good investment for the City of Painesville?
Elsewhere in the minutes " The City of Painesville's average bill is $53.60 and projected to be $69.74. The City's rates are reasonable because of excellent planning and good management." Now please prove it.
posted by terminator1 @ 9:40 AM
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10 Comments:
You have to wonder what former planner Ray Sternot would think about this deal?
Seems as though nothing is the way promised.
CHANEL 5 PRAIRIE SATE I WILL WATCH THANKS TERM I WILL READ AND LEARN
from Past President Bush
coal was fine until that President Obama got in (wouldn't had thought that could happen).
One of his campaign goals was to shut down coal, not just AMP check out the Wall Street Journal from a few years ago it is not only AMP. So on your way to pay more for your insurance, check it out. Then there's the deficit everyone was blaming me just because I went looking for weapons of mass destruction - finally found them. Well off to waste some more of that money I got back for me and my top 1%.
George
3:59 President Obama wasn't in office until 2009. See how many coal plants were decided not to be built in 2008. What shutdown coal more than anything else was cheap natural gas. Read up on the subject. WMD? weapons of mass delusion? Look invading Iraq after 9/11 will go down in American history as one of our biggest bludders if not the biggest. 4,000 American live and billions spent on what? The thoughts of Neocons looking for an enemy? To get even with which country had nothing to do with 9/11.
Clean coal? Like there's clean dirt?
Seems that Channel 5 said pretty much everything I told council and the administration at the last council meeting. I also know that a city resident sent the link to the story and video to every council person and city officals. I don't understand what data or facts more they need but for starters let's get someone from AMP-OHIO to a meeting to explain some questions.
A good start would be explain why it's double the cost of what was promised. Levelization/Stabilization, congestive cost and what exactly is going on at Prairie State. This is more than just a startup problems.
What do I expect them to do? Nothing! For fear of the wrath of the council-president. These people should fear the wrath of city residents, but they won't pursue anything, that's how they roll. Anyone notice the flower baskets downtown? That seem to be what their most Proud of.
After watching the story about Prairie State channel 5 investigation, it seems Mr. Hada and the rest of council should have enough facts and data to proceed with there own investigation. It appears someone sold us a bill of goods that no way represents what we ended up with. I know Mr. Hada does not like critized or is to vain to believe he made a mistake but what is our solution? Where is AMP-Ohio response to this situation? Will council at least make someone from that organization explain this situation? If not why not I thought they were our power partners?
It seems council has the facts but doesn't want to do anything but ask us for more money.
They should be ashamed of their non-action.
What really infuriates me about this whole AMP-OHIO/Prairie State thing, is that many, many citizens told council and the former City Manager, Rita McMahon, what a bad idea it was to commit to a 50-year contract with a coal plant at this time in history, let alone become part OWNERS in a take-or-pay contract with this obviously flawed plan.
They purposefully hid facts from us, double-talked us, put down any citizens who spoke out against it, and in the end they went right ahead with it, with Hada saying he "proudly" voted yes as he defiantly stared out into the room at the citizens who had been fighting it.
Now, if the citizens knew, how could council and McMahon not know? I think they all had to know, especially with the citizens pointing out all the flaws that even THEY were aware of,and I would like to see a full investigation into it to see if McMahon or anyone else had anything to gain personally for their yes vote. We already know some officials in other states did, and whatever investigations are going on will not be complete until that line of thought is pursued.
And now I see McMahon is again on some committee or something that has to do with Painesville? She needs to hightail it out of town like she did last time she left. I don't see any reason that that woman should have anything to say about anything in this city any more. She started to wreck this city from the first year she took over, and she left us a total mess.
And Hada can't get out of office fast enough to suit me.
Bring on the investigations. I just hope they go far enough. How could everyone see that these were bad, bad deals except the people voting on them? There was no excuse for getting in on these deals. None.
1:48 Am I to believe you don't believe the administration or council voted for the best interests of the city?
I disagree they were sold a bill of goods that in fact were nothing but a pack lies by some snake oil salesmen. The problem now is they know they screwed up and don't want to admit to that fact or worse do anything about it. And people want to give them more money?
They knew exactly what they were getting us into. Go back and watch the tapes of all those meetings. McMahon/Hada were questioned and questioned. Go back and watch McMahon waffle, tell half-truths, and evade the truth. I think they knew exactly what they were getting us into, and they chose to do it anyway. I remember I was shocked at what I was seeing and hearing. Do I think THEY were lied to by AMP-Ohio? I think AMP-Ohio is just as shady as McMahon, but I think the truth was in plain sight, and I think it was probably well-known by McMahon and some of the people in power in this city. And if THEY were too stupid to get it, the citizens knew and told them repeatedly, so that is no excuse, either.
And even if it had been a better deal, who would get into a 50-year coal-plant deal at this point in time?! Long before 50 years is up, every home and business will have their OWN power source and produce their own energy. And I told them each that before they voted yes. Now it's happening already.
Only morons would think that that was a good deal. Bring on the investigations. I just hope the investigations are broad enough to look at each individual "yes" vote. You need to go back and look at those old tapes.
To 1:48,
I believe at the time AMP came to the table, the city had quite a bit more industry, a failing power plant and power supplies were really in question. The grid had had a major east coast black out and fracking had not come into the picture on the grand scale it is today. Unless you listening to T. Boone Pickens, gas was just another fuel, possibly in short supply. Solar and wind technology couldn't keep up with 45 or so MW's this city needed. AMP sold, a fearful city manager, who in turn sold a fearful city council a dose of pretty sweet tasting medicine. It was an easy out.
My question still remains, who read and advised the city manager and council to sign this deal. Their head should be on a a platter! What lawyer in their right mind would sign onto this contract? I have asked and never got that information.
Seems the age of transparency in Painesville is pretty mirky.
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