Tuesday, September 17, 2013

COUNCIL MEETING 09/16/13

Well another council meeting is in the books.

Everything on the agenda passed,except an ordinance amending section 1125.04 relating to the definition of a family. That item was 'Tabled' and will be reviewed by council. It seems that in truth that defining a family when it comes to a dwelling even the Feds have no idea what the definition should be. As an administration and a council the most important thing that can and should be do is to protect the residents and the integrity of the neighborhoods in the city. For once let's not do the easy thing, please.

Another resolution of interest Authorizing and Directing application to Acquire and Demolish several dwellings for Flood Mitigation Purposes. This deals with the federal government including Ohio as part of the Hurricane Sandy recovery of 2012. These homes are around where Milstone and Gristmill were located. Why these homes weren't included with the 2006 storm remains a mystery to many?

Allen Watson President of the POC sent  a presentation to council members asking what can be and should be done if the levies do not pass. At a recent POC meeting everyone pretty much believed they wouldn't and wondered if there was a plan and included some suggestions. Council-President in his usual condescending attitude replied that the ideas had been discussed and wouldn't work. Well Mr. Hada did bring up many, uncluding selling the water department, as well as many others, yet at the same time he did not revisit outscoring of reviewing how hospitalization could be changed.

As far as my electrical facts they pretty much were ruled that my 'Facts' were wrong, along with no 'Facts' that would prove me wrong. Forget the numbers of  $104.04 MW we only paid $75.00 and that included levelization. Boy if only that was true. Wait, we were promised power at $48.00 MW what happened to that number anyway. Time will tell who was right. Think his AMP-OHIO mess is done?  Read the minutes on the city website of the November,15,2010 Council Meeting another AMP-OHIO deal in 2015 already signed on by Painesville.. If I was looking for a reason to vote to re-elect Lori DiNallo I found it in those minutes. We in the end will either build a statue for our Council-President or burn him in effigy, These deals with AMP-OHIO will be his legacy. Only my facts were wrong, mixed with angry glances from a city official. (you guess)

The city also brought up the levies again last night and "Reciprocity" was back on the table with a graph on how much it would bring into the city and cost residents.

Reducing the 100% Income Tax Credit.

If for example the city council decided to reduce the Income Tax Credit to 50.00% it would raise $800,000 for the general fund and and cost a resident working outside the city in say Mentor  making $40,000 $400.00 more a year in taxes paid to RITA for the city of Painesville. Now the beauty of all this is that YOU don't even get to vote to raise this tax. Only the Seven on council.

That said vote wisely in November because it only takes 4 people on council to do this. We should ask anyone seeking the position of council-at-large where they stand on this measure. Not only ASK but be perfectly clear. It was mentioned that 70% of residents work outside the city.

14 Comments:

At September 17, 2013 at 9:02 AM , Anonymous Galion said...

Galion tabled the letter and will revisit it on Sept. 24.
Seems Prairie State fired there plant manager. Fire the coach.
Many here in Galion were told by the grapewine that our former city manager Gene Toy was at the top of Painesville's short list. Seems you have a councilman very very involved in Galion business?

 
At September 17, 2013 at 9:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I simply do not understand why defining a "family" is this involved. The dictionary is full of proper definitions but, for some reason, they don't seem to fit the bill.
Look, if the current zoning codes won't stand up to court scrutiny, then maybe it is time for the Law Director to do some real work and change them as required. BTW, I don't know if this is even needed but I am assuming something should be done. Taking the easy way out by trying to redefine a word is not the correct way to handle this issue.
Eliminate the reciprocity? You mean to tax people twice on the same money? Wasn't there a revolution fought over double taxation?
Of course 70% of the people working actually work outside the City. Where would they work? The number of businesses in the City seems to drop almost yearly. Our manufacturing is pretty much gone along with health care. The only real "business" left in the City is the County and all their offices.
Yep, let's double tax the people who choose to live here but HAVE to work somewhere else. At least they have jobs and can pay the increase, right?

 
At September 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to know if anyone else got a letter from R.I T.A asking for copies of past city taxes for years we sent them to CCA I think they should get them from CCA themselves and not bug us residents, it does cost money for postage and copies to be made while they can probably get them from CCA electronically, I think the city sent them on a witch hunt to look for more money, the joke will be on them when they see my taxes are all paid up and if I comply I will send them a bill for the copy and postage fee

 
At September 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've had my head in the sand lately. Time to brush myself off and find out what's going on. What levies are on the ballot and what is the money designated for? Is the POC in favor of the levies or not? Thanks for the info.

 
At September 17, 2013 at 1:09 PM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

12:49 I nor this blog. speakes for the POC attend a meeting and you will find a multitude of ideas and answers. Brush yourself off quickly as time is running short.
10:34 My Mom recently received a letter from them and she hasn't worked in over 20 years?
9:20 thats seems to be the current threat? All it will do is drive more hard working people out of town.That will leave more poor and elderly left to pay for all this. I believe in only electing people who will promise not to double tax people will be the answer. I know of one presently on council that would be a NO vote.
9:02 Thank-you for the info you would think with all of Painesville's problem we would spend more time on Painesville.

 
At September 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I received one of the RITA letters but I just assumed it was from a problem that CCA had when they lost the original papers. Now, according to what I am seeing, many other people are being bothered by RITA?? Time to let your elected officials know that this is NOT acceptable.
I paid my taxes and filled out their forms. Now, don't bother me again until next year!

 
At September 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Council meeting? All I could see were you and JaHada arguing? You brought up a good point. Show me you facts Joe. You will never see them because there's no good facts.

 
At September 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where was your man Flock Monday night? Seems he has missed several council meetings this year. Maybe he should give half his salary back, since he seems to only be a part time council person.

 
At September 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

Well, since you brought it up 2 other council people have missed more meetings than Mr. Flock since the statr of their terms. It was nice to see that council didn't excuse him Monday.
Must of had to do something like work for a living?
All with good excuses. Wonder how many meeting someone would miss as they go on tours around the world?

 
At September 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears Mr.JaHada and Mr.Unetic seemed to have called you a liar and your electric numbers fraudulant? What say you?

 
At September 20, 2013 at 7:30 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

2:50 You don't no me to well.
I will take Mr. Unetic true facts to task. The only way Painesville fact of $70.53 could be correct is if they presented me with false information, that or two college professors are both wrong?

 
At September 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could two college professors be wrong? Just remember the old saying: "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

 
At September 22, 2013 at 8:45 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

9:06 If a person would agree with you, now take a good look at Painesville's council?

 
At September 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term,
Now, that is funny!

 

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