"TAXMAN" beatles
Some of you should go on line or buy todays Plain Dealer. Front page stories on how all five of the states retirement funds have refused to disclose any information to the paper even as they ask for millions more taxpayer contributions just to stay afloat.
The newspapers want to investigate the practice of "double dipping" and the growing cost to the system.
After years of hearing how we must raise the age to receive our social security which funds are in some crazy lock-box, and has been used to pay to even fund wars.
The state employee fund still lets people retire with 25 or 30 years of service? Now they want more money from us. Along with at the same time letting city administrators retire and come back and receive a salary. Did the city employee scam the system or retire. Retirement means retire. Words don't mean what they say. Retire
and come back for more. Illegal doesn't mean illegal either.
The city should stop this practice or at least make the general public aware this practice is going on in Painesville.
Don't worry they won't. Now here's an issue for the tea party about government waste and largeness but will they care?
These young retirees don't even pay city income tax on this early retirement money.
Teamster Central State Pension Fund will cut off your pension if they catch you driving a truck for money after you retire.
I'm with Badger and Kathy Sak ALL federal, state, local government are financially out of control!
Do they work for us, or do we work for them?
Oh, and while were at it lets raise property taxes with new levys, we need more money to provide services.
I'd like to hear from the other two reading this site.
posted by terminator1 @ 2:40 PM
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16 Comments:
OMG BOOOOOOORING
I will agree its,BOOOOOOORING
But its also very
EXXXXPEEENSIIIVVEEEEE, to the people who foot the bill.
Wild guess, but I have a feeling Terms going to ask the city manager how many Double Dippers we have working presently as city employees?
Bet he's either lied to or denied the answer.
It's about the jobs.
The more people working, the more paying taxes and the more tax money coming in. The higher the unemployment, the less tax revenue. When you add the cost of unemployment insurance, food stamps, possible Aid to Dependent Children that is paid out of the this smaller tax revenue that each unemployed person adds, we continue in a downward spiral. I've said it before here. Retire from a government position then you are done. Open the job up to someone else. Need to call them back, take them back at 50% pay or as a volunteer. Our military can retire after 20 but they don't take them back and make them a general with retirement pay and regular pay on top of that.
The thing most people only look at is the income tax they pay. Well we are all paying for the increased and extended unemployment benefits. The state has to borrow to meet these payments. Social Security is paying out more than they are taking in. Anyone under 50 may have to wait until 70 to retire and we allow double dipping after 30 years. Something is very wrong here. Just look at all the boxes on your W2. New schools, higher taxes. More unemployment, higher taxes. More government employees, higher taxes. More health care, higher taxes and so on.
I still feel that more and more people are looking for the government to take care of them. Despair, maybe, but then we have ILLEGAL immigration and Jose Illegal. Worthy causes along with fraudulent use of these programs only increase the drain on resources. Someone has to pay for these services and we need to take more financial responsibility.
Boring, I don't think so. This effects us all.
This blog sucks, get back to our town or call it something else.
4:16pm, illegal immigration does affect our town. In a big way. So if we want to continue to discuss this, so be it. We are living this problem. It is current and it is here.
Don't think this isn't about Painesville? Just how many are double dipping in Painesville? How many are unemployed? Still think this doesn't effect us? I could do with less who's dating who and more show me the money or better yet, who's pis*ing it away.
to; "OMG BOOORRING" and "this blog sucks", you are exactly the reason this country is in the shape it's in and how and why the Hada's etc keep getting elected.
hope you love the 23% sales tax they are currently talking about......
I see one of our regulars has a 65 Chevy Corvair 2-door for sale wonder what the asking price is?
These pensions are the biggest scam going. The employment practices for local and state jobs is also disgraceful and should be investigated. If you are too stupid to understand the important information on this blog, perhaps you should go back to the NH and read that rag.
Please explain where the city found the cash to repave Jefferson St. and Meridan Ave. I thought we were only going to pave North Ave, Cedarbrook and the court that Horvath lives on? What happened? Why are we broke one month and flush the next?
I read the article in the PD and all the city manager has to tell you is yes or no this is Painesville practice.
The mean concern of the story is that the administration should not have to increase funding for this money grab program.
You and Badger are right, They are no longer public servants but we have become citizen servants.
What are the qualifications for making almost $50,000 as a building inspector? Gruffness, and a superior attitude? She isn't worth a quarter of her salary.
I will be interested in how much of the new $22 billion emergency school bill to rehire teachers will make it's way to Painesville. Also, how much and how soon since school starts in a few weeks. Will that make a difference whether people in Painesville will vote for the school levy increase. Notice, I didn't say replacement levy.
To bad that half the money for this is being take from the food stamp program. Wonder if some schools across the nation will divert money from teachers to feed the kids breakfast, lunch and dinner?
$361 million will come to Ohio for school districts. There have been NO teachers layed off from Painesville City Schools. (so far) There are 18 support personnel on the recall list from the previous lay offs. (There have been 2) It would be nice if the $ could rehire those on recall, but since no teachers were let go, maybe Painesville will not qualify for any of those funds unless it is to ADD more teachers. Oh well...at least the money CANNOT be used for administration!
My comment was to point out that this one bill reduces food stamp money that will effect Painesville more. Also, what perception will this make for the school levy. We can't just live in the fishbowl called Painesville. We need to pay attention to what is happening all over the country and the world.
Our fiormer CM is a big double dipper. Did you hear what her new big buck job is?
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