Wednesday, January 18, 2017

"ONE TOKE OVER THE LINE" brewer & shipley

Sittin' downtown in a railway station
One toke over the line

Yeah, we talked about 'Weed'  at last nights council meeting and after sitting through that experience we all could have partaken in a toke!

First the good stuff!

That as yet unnamed development between Sanford St. and Windjammers got the zoning approval they were looking for. Even after numerous residents living at Windjammers express their problems with erosion and water runoff.
Now do the math 16 homes in 5.5 acres with homes priced in the $250,000 range situated in a wetland area? Why not. Ms. Jenkins in her wisdom suggested if we don't approve this 16 unit development we might be faced with a 70 unit development? That logic failed me. Seems after viewing the plans as well as the prices someone is already into the marijuana
Council voted 5 for with councilman DeLeone voting No and council lady DiNallo abstaining. By the looks of some Ward I voter's in the audience council lady Shoop might have been wise to also abstain. Law Director Gurley told council the only question at hand was zoning.

It failed me that we hired two part-time police officer's for city hall duty on the first reading but it took three readings for the Resolutions of citizen, business and Heritage award? There was No discussion by council on this matter at least in front of the public?

Animal tethering, First off how many on council or in the administration even have a pet? Question's about when the clock starts, videotape, what if the owner has a $2,000 dog house?  What if the dog is used for security? Left on first reading after 20 minutes of nonsense discussion.'

Approved to advertise for bids for the reconstruction of Walnut St.

Approved new waterlines for Pearl St. as well as Auburn Rd.

Approved bids on salt!

Moratorium on Medical Marijuana Cultivation Processing and Retail Dispensaries. Here's another road I'm not sure we want to go down but at least one resident thought maybe Painesville should be on the cutting edge?  Let's see what the state recommends? Let's remember federal law. I see no difference between having marijuana sold in a city in violation of federal law then a city deciding to become a sanctuary city. Both in violation of the law? Mr. Gurley explained the reasoning for the moratorium.

City Manager discussed a Utility Commission and wanting 'experts on that commission. Experts are what got us in this mess.

A presentation by WPCP on where all the sewer pumping stations were located and operating in the City of Painesville. Something I guess we needed to know.

So after two hours we closed the meeting. Salt, Dogs, Houses and Weed!


At January 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM , Blogger PotterMiller said...

Has it even occurred to anyone on council to contact soil and water conservation? Their office is right across from the jail. How hard would it be to hear a scientifically based report on whether or not houses should even be built in that area? We don't need to spend money on a study as Soil and Water already has funding from the government....... funded by the taxpayers already. More homes would exacerbate the issue of erosion and runoff. Not to mention lawn chemicals and fertilizers running off directly into the river. Has council learned nothing from the residents in Heisley Park? Yes, I guess it is buyer beware.........

At January 18, 2017 at 10:58 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

10:09 Nah, It makes more sense to let these developments get the right zoning without a 'free' soil and water study. That way in 5 to 10 years after the development is built and the resident's that purchased those homes with standing water, erosion, foundation problems can go in front of council for help only to be greeted by a blank stare and a "let me get some information from you"! It's how we roll.

At January 18, 2017 at 11:00 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

...And how long has your dog been outside? Your gona need a timer for Kirby!

At January 18, 2017 at 12:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, makes me glad I had soup to make.
That sounds like a long, boring, unproductive night in the 'ville.
Yeah, we need lots more housing on wet lands. It has worked well so far.
Why on earth do we need two part time officers at City Hall?
With 14 or so police cars parked out back, there must be a couple of officers in the building all the time. They sure aren't out on the road.
What was the LD's explanation for needing the moratorium? Does this even have any legal standing or power?
Where will the "experts" on the Commission come from? Please don't tell me the former CM or Council President are experts.

At January 18, 2017 at 6:28 PM , Blogger PotterMiller said...

one question on dog tethering...... who enforces such things? Police? Since Kirbys blind and I'm his seeing eye person, I'm usually the one tethered 😂

At January 18, 2017 at 7:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone else get an off for customers of The Illuminating Company? At the risk of sounding really stupid, I know we're not producing our own electricity but, even so, this offer is not for us right? We're still Painesville's customers, correct? Maybe these offers were meant for Painesville Township or...?

At January 19, 2017 at 8:06 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

7:40 Constantly, they are just a calling service. And no if you live in Painesville your stuck you cannot choose any outside electric service. The last time I received a call I mentioned I was in Painesville Power the caller laughed? He thought PAINSville I was making a joke!

6:28 Well you are a candidate for a council meeting? Maybe you can get dispensation for Kirby as well as other special need pets in Painesville?
Maybe council will give you a placard to hang around your neck and Kirby can park you anywhere.
Seriously, the city already has an ordinance's to protect people as well as pet's #580? If you see a pet being harmed call the police and they will respond as well as the Humane Society.
Good people take good care of their pets and people who can't shouldn't have them. It's simple.
12:21 Part-time police officers you have to watch the video nothing much was explained only we would save money?
The Law Director explained with a moratorium the city could refuse some one from growing, selling plants, pot in the city? I have no idea what would happen if this was challenged?
As I mentioned the 'experts' got us in this mess. I would feel better if they found people with common sense who have to pay the utility bills. Not former expert's or people who live in Warren or Cuyahoga Falls who never are touched by a Painesville utility bill.
I do wish I had a camera when Christine Shoop voted yes for that development!

At January 19, 2017 at 6:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There should be a geological study on what is happening to the land prior to construction just as there is a need to study the water tables and impact of runoff water on the hill sliding down.

At January 19, 2017 at 7:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

A moritorium on pot, in a city with how many gun stores, a state store and how many places that serve booze? Most people I know who smoke, eat or grow pot can barely get to the fridge for munchies. They sit around and smile a lot. My friends who drink, have no problem getting off the floor to find their fireworks and guns or getting behind the wheel of a truck or car. Oh council.......

At January 20, 2017 at 10:45 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

7:08 Not to get into the merits of marijuana although I do believe in the merits if used medically. It presently is not legal ...end of subject.
6:48 That meeting was for a zoning change. I am sure city leaders read this blog. and before planning approves construction there will be a water and soil study. And if not look for someone with a large envelope of cash!~

At January 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

That most have been one hell of a council meeting? To ashamed to post it on their website?

At January 21, 2017 at 11:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

$20,000 homes in the north end of Painesville? People who spend that kind of money usually do their homework and expect the city to do the same. They won't be looking for surprises Trust me they will check out Malkamaki! I did.

At January 26, 2017 at 10:38 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

11:49 Is that a typo? Those homes will sell for $250,000.

At February 7, 2017 at 4:15 AM , Blogger Vito said...

The notion of a moratorium is ridiculous. Medical marijuana is happening successfully in 28 states and D.C. It is a incredibly large industry Colorado averaging over 40 million in sales each month. The Federal Government has zero interest in getting involved. In fact an HB has been introduced to allow medical marijuana.

This is a new industry that Painesville could desperately use. No actual marijuana will ever leave a facility, only oils and creams... and will require a doctors prescription... passing up this opportunity is foolish. If no to this industry what's your idea? More boutiques? Ha


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