Saturday, September 17, 2016

"CITY COUNCIL MEETING' 09/19/16




Seven items on the agenda:

Resolution authorizing the city manager an application and enter into an agreement of improving Walnut St. with a $382,000 of the $765,000 cost for resurfacing from   Gillett  St. to Levan St.

Resolution for the City Manager to accept a donation of property  6.51 acres to be added to Horvath's Lagoon. Just think maybe if we waited we would have got the whole thing for nothing and have an extra $250,000 burning a hole in our pocket?  Hardly Skinner Ave.

Resolution to accept the lot (access) drive in Liberty Greens.

Resolution authorizing the city manager  for construction of that new switchgear building at the electric department.

Ordinance for council to pass a moratorium with regards to 75 ft. 'Utility' poles along Painesville's Right-of-Way.

Resolution accepting the amounts and rates as determined by the budget  commission. This is to be forwarded to the county auditor's office.

Ordinance amending appropriation to purchase two Columbarium's for the cemetery. ($20,000)

No presentation

No new business

No unfinished business


To some of you who might be curious Harvey was defeated by Orange  52 to 18


Well if your thinking about sending that little one off to college, please be made aware of MICHIGAN see they have a football coach up there that can pick and eat boogers on camera! I guess he does it for a protein fix?  That school up north can really pick them if you know what I mean!

5 Comments:

At September 17, 2016 at 9:25 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see the every single item on the agenda is an emergency.
How can that possibly be unless someone is asleep at the controls?
I am not too smart but even I know that this is NOT the way Council should be conducting the City business. There are rules in place for everything to have three readings.
Maybe Councilman DeLeone should concern himself more with proper Council procedures and less about whether someone goes over three minutes or wants to discuss multiple issues.

 
At September 17, 2016 at 9:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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I wonder if anyone but you, Term, will see this comment. Not suggesting you would hide it, but just adding it to an older post maybe it won't get noticed.

I wanted to comment because I was observing the conversation taking place in these comments about net metering, and there seems to be some uninformed people trying to post like they are experts. I particularly had to laugh at Sandy's comment about a monkey putting solar panels on a tree. Contrary to her belief, it's not that easy, First of all a tree would be a tad impractical for a solar panel. In all seriousness though there are numerous codes in the NEC that must be followed when you install a power source capable of delivering lethal amounts of power. Failure to follow those codes could result in catastrophic for your home that insurance wouldn't cover. And I'll stop there on the subject as installing solar panels has nothing to do with net metering.

For net metering to work you would need to have a meter capable of recording both power received and power delivered. You still have to pay for the power you get from the grid when your local output isn't enough to cover your needs. Then there is the matter of power delivered, or what you put on the grid. This must be measurable. It is not simply a deduction from what your buying. Since Painesville has purchase agreements in place to cover their needs they won't be interested (Whether or not the contract with Prairie State actually prohibits it is something I have never heard. A muni utility can enter into a purchase agreement with whoever they want) you are going to find a buyer for your excess power. And your not going to be able to sell it for the price you pay.

Additionally, you are going to need to install equipment that will prevent your power from going to the grid should a storm take down a tree or something else and linemen need to work on what needs to be a de-energized line. The cost for the meter and equipment plus installation is well into the thousands of dollars plus.

And least we forget, you would be putting power into only one phase of a three phase system. This will introduce an imbalance to the system that your local utility is not going to tolerate. So you would need two other utility customers (one on each of the other phases) to be producing an equivalent amount of power.

You also will need synchronizing equipment so that your power in phase with the utility's or you will cause an immediate outage for your neighbors who aren't producing their own power.

I have a natural gas well on my property, so I don't have to pay for gas and I use it to power a generator. Anyway, the above is what I learned when I thought about selling power back to the grid. In the end, it just wasn't worth the hassle. And being a First Energy customer, I would be able to. I just think the ROI is not worth it. T
his arrangement is most practical for a business that has three-phase service.

Any way, that's my two cents.
Thanks.


 
At September 17, 2016 at 10:42 AM , Anonymous TERM>> said...

9:25 It's not nearly as bad as it used to be. That said there is one item that needs an answer by October 1st? They didn't know this?

Thanks for your two cents! Now i guess feeding the grid isn't that eaqsy and most of us don't have a gas well. So if a person installs solar panels what your position on Tesla Powerwall or Mark I ? Could this be a solution?

 
At September 17, 2016 at 10:47 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should be hilarious the first time Michigan is penalized for a "Pick"

 
At September 19, 2016 at 3:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Channel 5 at 6pm reported that customers of Painesville Power are experiencing high power cost adjustment cost. What"s happening Painesville?

 

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