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Today 50 years ago the life of our youngest President John F. Kennedy the 35th President ended at 2:00 pm est.
We will hear though out the day about the assassination in Dallas. Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby. was it the act of one man, was it a conspiracy?
Maybe we should spend some time learning what JFK stood for.
Many will tell you about reading "Profile in Courage" but what about his first book "Why England Slept" or his college thesis Appeasement in Munich.
Anyone alive in November, 22, 1963 remembers where they were when they got the news of his death.
The world has changed. The country has changed. JFK was a member of that generation we call the greatest generation. No obstacle was to big to conquer.
Many remember him by " My fellow Americans ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
My favorite, and in my eye the best.
"We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go in this decade and to do these other things. Not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills,because that challenge is one we are unwilling to postpone and one which we intend to win."
Much has changed over the last 50 years. Now we here "Government isn't the solution it's the problem"
Maybe their right? Maybe the government of the 50's and 60's isn't the same as what we now have. I think a Jack Kennedy would find solutions to the direction this country seem's to be heading. I guess making sure all Americans having affordable health insurance in 2014 would seem child's play to him.
Oh, what could have been.
posted by terminator1 @ 11:10 AM
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14 Comments:
JFK sevice day is the 23 rd of November every year.
The event’s name comes from Kennedy’s famous 1961 inauguration quote: “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”
Carry on......
I think JFK would turn over in his grave after finding out how the past 2 presidents have run this country into the ground. After hearing how much damage Obamacare has done to the hard working Americans, we live in the USSA United Socialist States of America. What can we as a nation do to put a stop to this mess?
Yes, much has changed in 50 years....... And we are tied to a contract with AMP for how long?
I too am old enough to remember. We set a goal to put a man on the moon and JFK challenged us to do so by the end of the decade. We did. Not by letting the politicians run NASA, but to let the experts design the hardware. Remember, computers were not much more than rocks then. Nothing compared to what we have now. Apollo 13 failure is not an option to return the astronauts home. I don't think we have that drive now. Just good enough.
Let's remember, Vietnam was fought by the politicians. That was a failure. We learned from that and now let the military fight the battles.
Yes, there were mistakes made in our space program and certainly in the recent wars but we learned that government is the best solution to solve a problem. Yes, I know war is not the best option but sometimes necessary.
I used to worry about Social Security and retirement. Now I have to worry about health care and what it will cost. We have cancelations, rate increases and not enough people signing up to make the whole thing work. Young and businesses prefer to pay the penalty. We have increased costs and now add to that a government entity to oversee that. I can only see higher costs and more delays or less care.
Kennedy was not as great as people make him out to be. During his era was the start of the modern era of socialistic entitlement programs. Study governmental history in depth and know there were over 160 "welfare" type programs instituted during his presidency.
He just happened to be the president during the cold war era when he had a common enemy to all americans that he could use to draw the country together.
2:32 Sorry the American people don't seem to agree.
Look Kennedy took them all on. The industrialists, the unions, the communists, the racists. In his wisdom of the Cuban missile crisis if a Nixon, or Goldwater would have been in the White House that day I believe we wouldn't be having this conversation now. Sorry Rush you can't change history. As proven in his policies he cared for all the 1% as well as the other 99%. He would have never left 47% out in the cold.
12:%@ Read your comment? You as well as many others live in the worry,
can't world.
If a country can land Americans on the moon in 10 years you tell me we can't find a system that provide health care for all of us? Look Obamacare was a Republican idea at the beginning this was the Heritage Foundations plan to
provide health care for all Americans. It 's roots are in Gov. health care plan. N9ow what makes us socialists for wanting better health care for all Americans?
Sign your name to any response if you presently believe our present health care system isn't broken. Where are the solutions? It was mentioned to me that Hitler once said the way to control Germany is to control healthcare? Never said it.
we should care what we might gain than fear of losing. The middle class has been losing since the
80's.
What would JFK Do?
You mention Cuban Missile Crisis.
I also remember he was one to continue involvement in Vietnam greatly escalated by Johnson.
Oh yea, there was this thing called the Bay of Pigs.
Interesting you bring up Nixon and Goldwater and Cuban Missile Crisis. That's as bad as blaming WWI on Wilson, WWII on FDR, Korea on Truman. If you want to blame the Gulf War on Bush then you must blame Vietnam on Kennedy/Johnson.
The events of the world shape a president. It is how he reacts to those events that makes a difference. Does he become a leader or an empty suit. Good or bad, JFK was a leader. Good or bad, we have an empty suit now. A leader doesn't say I don't know, didn't know, it's their fault or I apologize.
Again, i've said good and bad and leader vs empty suit
. It's up to each of us to decide.
Since it was 50 years ago, someone showed me an interesting speech by Kennedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAEp0J_hzU
12:37 Viet Nam would have never been what it became. Kennedy was pulling out military advisors at the time of his death.
Bay of Pigs? That was a project between the Eisenhower admisistration, CIA,and Cuban Nationalists. That somehow was never mentioned to the Kennedy administration. Which was the major cause of the Cuban Missle crisis. Now if Nixon, or Goldwater had been sitting in the oval office at that time I don't believe we would be having this conversation.
Empty suit now let me ask if 50 years ago if one or the other party had been against the space race. With voting No and trying to defund it,telling half truths,complaining everytime there was a setback do you really think Neil Armstrong would have ever stepped on the moon?
Your party has become the party of the 1%er's No to everything, no solution to health care, jobs, immigration reform,Just plain No to everything what are your goals or solutions? You have none.
Kennedy did lower the top tax rates from 90% to 70% nowhere would he have been for the rates we presently have. And the Communists would have been replaced by the Capitalists that moved jobs oversea's like Romney.
Yes its a different world, I guess the 1% should be happy they have shills like you.
Term,
You and I agree on many things and disagree on others but I think you are dealing in revisionist history here.
Where do you get the idea that Kennedy was pulling anyone out of Vietnam (or more to the point, out of Laos) at that time? I know how old each of us was then and I doubt you were paying any attention to what was happening. I know I wasn't. My point is that after time, the actual "facts" can be spun to make a point. As an example, all my history books made the American Indians out to be the bad guys. It does not mean that was the way it really was.
I don't care either way but I never felt JFK should be considered good or bad. He served just 2 1/2 years in office. Kind of like Garfield or Stonewall Jackson in that they never had time to succeed or fail. We will never know what he might have become.
BTW, no one has any idea what might have happened had Nixon won the election in 1960. We can only have theories. Regarding Goldwater, he didn't run until 1964 so he really can't be part of the discussion. The missile crisis would not have been on his watch.
Regarding our current President, I have no doubt that he wants what he feels is best for the people. Is it the best?
Does he have ANY idea how to go about it?
It appears not.
Much like President Carter, he appears to be a nice guy who can get elected but he seems to be clueless in the office. Carter surrounded himself with people who were not qualified and it seems Obama has done the same.
As an example, look at the Obamacare promises that were made. Now ask, who actually wrote the pages of legislation? How is it even remotely possible that the President has wording in HIS centerpiece that is directly contradictory to what he is saying in his speeches?
How does he not not know what is in the law that he champions?
If he did know how it reads, then he has been lying to the people. It has to be one or the other, it can not be both ways.
Keep in mind that this does not get into whether the law is good or bad, needed or not needed.
I guess what I am trying to get across is that the person is the leader. Some are good and some are not. IMO, neither of the last two office holders are very good at all but they are what we elected. Time will tell how they measure up.
Just my $.02
7:34 From the book "Johnny we hardly knew ye". It stated that on October 2,1963 Kennedy authorized the recall of 1,000 U.S. troops from Viet Nam also with the promise that by 1965 all forces would be removed. Tell them "that includes all helicopter pilots". Seem's this was a policy shift?
I agree "nice guys" can't make great presidents, our current one has to grow a couple.
I guess we can cancel that trip to the moon?
Term, you seem to think only the Democrats make good presidents. All Republican presidents are evil, greedy, warmongers. I happen to believe both sides have had leaders and both sides have had their empty suits. I doubt you would ever agree with that statement but prefer to be single minded. I am willing to listen to both sides and choose the candidate that most agrees with my views. Maybe you need to take your rose colored glasses off and take a good look at Obama Care. Makes AMP look like chump change.
But we know that will never happen so go ahead and attack me all you want.
5:11 There have been many Republican Presidents that have been great Presidents. Eisenhower, Reagan, the first Bush to name three in my lifetime.
It always seems the Democratic Presidents have to higher standard.
Example When 240 Marines were killed in Beirut in 1983 and Reagan pulled all American troops out on Lebanon did anyone accuse him of leading from behind, cut and running?
When did a Republican President ever give a State of the Union address and LIAR was shouted out from a Democratic Congressman? When was the President ever questioned about if he was a legitimate American, one born in Kenya? A Muslim? which wouldn't disqualify him anyway, at the same time complain about the Christian Church he attended in Chicago? Where did Reagan attend church? It doesn't matter. What if Obama had made the statement Bin Laden? I don't worry about him much? GWB did. Yet the GOP even critize him for killing him. At the present rate I see the Republican Party no longer fielding a President that could win a national election. Presently Reagan could win his party nomination.
No matter who was President the office deserves to be respected.That rule I have always followed. Now if you didn't vote for the guy you now do everything in the opposition party to stop whatever goals they set.
Read up on Medicare. When President Kennedy first propossed it it got the same response as Obamacare. Find someone over 65 that want's to get rid of it? They can. Why don't they?
I guess my answer to being a Democrat ,or a Progressive is tell me what policy a Republican President ever brought forward to make a better life for the majority of the American people?
7:04 What exactly am I delusional about?
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