"I THINK WE'RE ALONE NOW" tommy james & the shondells
Received an interesting e-mail to the blog. yesterday.
Now presently I'd like the blog. to just report facts about illegal immigration, I'll pretty much keep my own thoughts to myself presently. First as to how are you going to round all these people up after you offered them a better life in the United States? To really you want a resolution on comprehensive immigration reform that refuses to include border security?
This e-mail troubled me due to its content.
Dear Painesville City Official,
You are invited to attend a meeting of concerned citizens, to discuss the pending immigration resolution.
Location: Morley Library
Date: Tuesday December 10, 2013
Room A & B downstairs
Time: 6:30 P.M. - 8:30 P.M.
Then the sentence that bothered me the most.
THIS MEETING IS BY INVITATION ONLY......WHAT?
They proceeded to invite all seven council members, the city manager, the law director and the police chief.
First off the person who originally e-mailed this letter should know that due to Ohio Sunshine rules no more than three council members can be present at one time even to a Mickey Mouse Club Meeting. He should know better.
Second Tuesday evening is the WARD IV storm water meeting at Maple. Elementary School. That I expect three council members as well as the city manager to attend?
Why by invitation ONLY?
This is what happens when you hatch a plan at Perkins Pancake House with alot of non-residents.
You think I'm wrong?
In the first sentence change CONCERNED CITIZENS to HOLA members? Some of you would be screaming from the rafters.
This is not the way True Americans operate, and for good reason.
Maybe the police chief might have to attend because there's a good chance alot of NOT invited people might be heading to Morley Library Tuesday evening?
Call the city officials on your own, attend council meeting but in the forum you present at Morley you can not remain "anonymous" like you can here on the blog.
posted by terminator1 @ 6:58 AM
36 Comments
36 Comments:
Best guess PCLS will be looking for a new bus driver very soon.
maybe "ANONYMOUSLY"
I wouldn't feel comfortable having this dude driving my legal american citizens around town?
TERM, how did you rate an invite?
There is a big difference between HOLA, an organization that advocates for illegals, and a meeting of legal citizens trying to save their country. And I, for one, am sick of you questioning if someone is a TRUE American every time they try to do something to save their country from the illegals. Better than being you in your lobster pot waiting for the first shot to be fired in this takeover, which will never come. Don't look now, but your country is almost gone to the illegals, and your city council is trying to help their cause. Anyone who is trying to save America from this invasion is most certainly acting in the best interest of America, and therefore acting as a TRUE American. And this resolution that DiNallo is working on is a problem for the entire United States of America, so certainly citizens of other towns, at the very least, need to be very interested and involved in this betrayal. What country is DiNallo a TRUE member of, and where do HER loyalties lie?...with the illegal Hispanics and HOLA it looks like.
And it's quite easy to get the illegals out. E-Verify. If they can't work, they will go HOME. They found their way in, and they can certainly find their way out.
Saying a prayer before a Painesville council meeting. Why? The act of prayer has no real bearing or consequence on a civil government meeting or public school board meeting, and is therefore irrelevant, it begs the question of why it's there at all.
9:43 I didn't get invited. E-mail sent anonymously to me. and wouldn't go, if this bunch or HOLA would have invited me. I believe the whole premise is wrong.
1:00 legal group like the infamous Rally Team? How many of that bunch will show up Tuesday? One advocates, one way and the other another way?
America why is there a North America and a South America? seem if you lived in Canada, or Peru your an American? Mrs. DiNallo to her credit has operated in the open. No invitation only meetings.
By Invitation only, Hell that could be this groups slogan,motto.
1:21 What an interesting comment? First off it's not a prayer it's an invocation very generic in nature. I guess if it's good enough to be on my money "In God We Trust" it's good enough to open a council meeting.
There is nothing infamous about the Rally Team. Only you and HOLA think that.
2:37 You guys sure operate in the shadows? Why.
PAIF
Proud Americans in Fear"
I just remembered the Rally Team is dead to Blog. SORRY!
Just join HOLA and get it over with, why don't you?
All your answers to 1:00 are quite stupid. What really surprises me, though, is how many people will jump in and blindly go along with you, whether you are horribly abusing someone or cutting down anyone and everyone who tries to save this country from the illegals. Someone called you a sad little man a while back, which I thought to be true and funny. I think you are a sick-in-the-head little man, myself, and I think the more of your true colors you show, the more that people will realize that.
2:59 Would not join them or your little group.
5:04 God help us all if your the one sent to save the country.
Why would you even care what a sad,-sick-in-the-head little man would think?
I'll tell you what I will be at Morley tonight to see if any city officials attend and sitting out where the first floor reading area is and if you have any balls, or boobs you can tell me to my face how you despise me. I'd like to put a face to all of your ramblings.
If not I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
Please, I hope there isn't a line!
They might introduce themselves to you, but without a solution except deport them. Not even with a how. E verify well if that's the solution who then is the problem. Employers or Mexicans?
This bunch will do everything to expose the illegals but nothing to the job creators that draw them here. Who really are the law breakers let's expose them.
TERM, I just don't understand. You are a proud Painesville native. Why are you not upset by what these people are doing to your town? To our country? Do you have an illegal in the family? Are your grandchildren anchor babies? There has to be some personal reason why you would side with these lawbreakers. I'm just trying to understand.
@2:30
The US Supreme court just heard a case regarding prayers before city council meetings ... expect the decision from the supremes shortly.
10:53 I guess I believe all people should be shown respect the dignity. Try to understand what caused them to break the law.
Is the law fair? Look everyone here pretty seems to believe they are the law breakers. Deport them.
End of subject.
Should there accomplices ie; their employers be held responsible? Like if the guy who drives the getaway car knowingly at a bank robber is he not charged? When will a employer serve time?
This is not a take over but all due to economics, people looking to fed their families.
I guess I look at this in regard that if it was my family faced what's going on in Mexico I for one would be one of the first fence jumper.
I have no Hispanic presently in my family. I do know some Hispanic's in town I consider friends.
Look I don't know the answer but at the same time I presently don't see HOLA or the Grassroots Rally Team neither presently having a viable solution.
Yes I love Painesville and I see many of our new residents an asset.
Some of the comments I receive here seem to be filled with anger and rage. What solution is that?
Presently the politics in this country as well as even in our community leaves no solutions for a multitude of problems.
It seems to come down to two things fear on one side, and people not wanting to assimilate on the other.
I see neither HOLA or Grassroots honest brokers.
Unless you Native American you family had to get here some how. Ocean, river, etc. Everybody I know was an immigrant at one time or another.
Since the dawn of time we have walked around looking for something better. Hell, East and West Germany wasn't that long ago! The Berlin Wall didn't work! There isn't much we can do at a local level until Washington gets there head out of their rumps. Biggest problem I have is the impact on the school system. The city? I say legalize everyone and let them pay taxes like the rest of us!
Washington made the mess and somehow we need to start the clean up..... deporting is not the answer, nor is jailing employers. Yeah, sounds like it's gonna ugly but in the end you know who looses.......... all of us. Rally Team, you will loose so get over and do something productive.
Awww, you said balls and boobs. HaHa. Are you a first grader? Maybe just the mentality of one.
Your comments are off base.
1."I guess I believe all people should be shown respect the dignity. Try to understand what caused them to break the law". Well I guess according to you I will no longer be stopping at stop signs/lights. When I am running late, this will cause me to break the law. The big difference? I WILL GET CAUGHT, FINED and maybe JAIL. They will not.
2.This is not a take over but all due to economics, people looking to fed their families. TOO BAD. These people can feed their families in Mexico. Don't they have food there? If there are fields to work here, there are fields in Mexico too. They just want it all for free and give nothing in return. Come into MY country legally, then we'll talk.
TERM 2:43, you "believe all people should be shown respect". Unless they are Republican. And you "see neither HOLA or Grassroots honest brokers". But you show HOLA respect and defend them. Yet the Grassroots you totally defile. Why are they not "honest brokers?". They aren't out terrorizing anyone who opposes them as the other side does. And they aren't in the shadows. Their names and faces have been all over the papers, news, and on the streets. They have never hidden, even when threatened by the other side. And yes, they do get threatened.
TERM, you say you will be sitting in the lobby. Why? So you can intimidate any city council for showing up at a meeting concerning laws and discussing lawbreakers? Why would you try to do soemthing to stop them from coming? I don't get it.
6:26 Intimidate a council member? I intimidate them as much as I do the pit bull down the street. Good excuse for such a small showing. Blame
TERM>> Well back to Perkins.
The reason I was sitting in the lobby so any of you could tell me to my face what you spout out here on the blog.
6:22 Here is your opportunity to post your name.
I trust neither group I believe I made that point clear. Although when I attended the HOLA meeting it wasn't by 'invitation only'
4:27 your answer TOO BAD for everyone including you.
Again no solution.
4:20 I was just trying to reach out to some of you at your level.
Why doen't the U.S. House put it up to vote?
I guess both group want to deal in Absolutes? One Deport them, and the other give in to all of our demads?
Yes, we are all from immigrants, but from legal law abiding immigrants. At least I am. When my ancestors came they wanted to become american. They assimilated. They didn't collect freebies. They worked hard to make a living. These people want me to work hard to make a living for them. That's what's not right.
And you want us to give in to all their demands. Well, TERM, give them your paycheck. Don't commit mine.
For all those yelling, Deport! Did you ever notice;
Hispanic........ see the word "panic" in there. Take a breath and get a grip.
How did you get here? How were your relatives treated when they got here? Probably not very well. I remember the stories sitting around the table when I was kid, made my skin crawl. I thought my great grandparents were pretty nice people who just didn't speak English, what an uphill battle for them but they said it was still better than from where they came. It worked, we got college educations, made a decent wage and a life without bombs or threat of being shipped of to a concentration camp for what we believed. That is what America is..... work hard and make it better for your children. We all need to come to the table on this and figure it out whether it's Washington or Painesville. Ignorance is not bliss, it just grows anger. What ever happened to the golden rule?
and no I am not a bleeding heart liberal, just looking for some answers to a very hard subject. I wish I had a few answers but I don't. I think many heads are better than a few. The pendulum has to come back to center right now it swings wildly out of control.
I guess Term thinks that sometime in the future -- not now, of course -- there will be an end to the illegals. There will never be an end to it if we do not stop it, and if we give amnesty. Never. This will be the third amnesty if it is allowed to happen. The first two are the biggest reasons we are in the mess we are in now. It doesn't work. The entire world, especially Mexico, will continue to empty out, use up, and take over our country. Last time our government almost granted amnesty (that people like the Rally Team, etc. helped stop), the Mexican president was in an uproar. He demanded to know of the United States where did we think he was going to put all his people? How did we think he was going to educate them, etc. It is disgusting -- these parasites -- and Mexico wasn't the only country demanding answers!
We need to get rid of the ones that are here now. It is the only way. There are too many. Term still thinks that they are just nice people coming to better their families. Even after he went to the 2007 rally, when all the Mexicans said they were here to take the land and the whole crowd cheered, including Dahlberg. He is so delusional, he thought it was a fluke! It is not a joke. They are taking over while people like Term attack the people who are trying to save the land.
The answers are simple.
1. E-Verify
2. Change the 14th amendment (anchor baby law that was meant for the children of freed slaves.
3. Fix the farm-workers program.
4. Close the border, but this is not the most important thing. The other three must come along with it, and can be done quicker.
It shocks me how many people Term gets to go along with him on this issue. Someone previously used the word defile to describe what he has done to the individual people and to the groups who are fighting this definitive problem, and it has been no less than that.
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns. If you are so worried about the Mexicans, go help them in Mexico to fix up their OWN land. You could also give them all of your possessions and land, as I would have no problem with that.
Instead of helping to save America, you are nothing less than vicious when it comes to protecting the invaders.
Again, I can understand one demented man, but the fact that so many people follow you is what I find the most frightening.
There will never be an end to illegals if we do not stop this now. There is an ENDLESS SUPPLY.
Well, this sort of news will light up a few folks on here.
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20131211/FREE/131219936
2:26 So you think people are following ME? Your crazy, most are probably following their hearts and minds.
Look I am in full support of Border Security.
First you hang out a HELP WANTED SIGN then KEEPOUT sign Who put out the Help Wanted sign? The Liberals? Hardly. If I remember correctly the two Bush's as well as Clinton embraced them.
You feel no concern of their welfare, change the 14th amendment fat chance.
Look I don't want to hand anything to anybody just after you entice someone here. Your responsible for that action. They need to assimilate, learn English, respect what they could have here. The second generation is already on board, what are they learning from you? Distrust, a feeling of being superior, A lot of work needs to be done and your only answer is NOPE!
Maybe some of you on both sides should step back and see how ridiculous both sides act.
The 14th amendment was first written to protect the children of the freed slaves. It was then repurposed some time later to mean every birth in America, even those of illegals. Stupid. It needs to be changed again. Not too difficult if we could find a government that was smart enough to do it. But now, with so many Hispanics in the government fighting every step to save our country from their fellow Hispanics, it really is a now or never thing. If it isn't done very soon, there will never be enough non-Hispanic votes to do it.
Term,
This is 2:26 and you have me confused.
I "think" you meant to respond to 1:43 as I don't think I said anything of importance (nothing new there).
4:27-Here is my solution, you won't like it and neither will most but it's the only one I got till we as citizens get a handle on this. CARRY ID. Any and all violations and you are pulled over? No proper ID? Goodbye! Round em up and drive a school bus to the border. Adios.
Back when I was a kid, the migrant workers used to go home after the growing season was over. Then they started to stay and take over other jobs. Then what was it - about 20 or so years ago, they just started coming in groves to usurp out benefits and country. Go to Mexico and ask some of the old people that are left behind as almost the only souls left in their ghost town villages. They'll lament to you how everyone is gone to America instead of living their own lives in their own country. They'll tell you how they are losing their culture because all the young people leave and go to America. They are afraid of losing their heritage as much as Americans are.
Now picture if all those millions of young and younger people had stayed in Mexico and marched on their own government, and ran for their own city councils, and made changes for their own country. What would Mexico look like today? I'm sure it would be unrecognizable as to what it is now. But none of them wanted to do that, because it was easier to take what wasn't theirs than to make their own.
Now imagine that Mexicans HAD been the people that populated the United States in the beginning. And now imagine what would have happened to, and what would be happening to THE WORLD. What country has Mexico and Mexicans ever helped? What world peace did they ever fight for? What people are allowed to be in THEIR country illegally? Answer: NONE, NONE, and NONE. And when they shortly become the majority in this country and control all the ruling offices in the land, what do you think will happen to the world, and therefore, us, then?
Mexico is FILLED with ghost towns because their country-sucking people are all here. They know they are taking us over, and they count on people like Term to let them.
So, no, they will find no sympathy with me. America was made this great by people who stayed and fought for her,not ran to another country so they could steal from them, instead of fighting for rights and reforms in their own country. I have no respect for the Mexicans, and I have no respect for the people from all the other countries who are here breaking our laws. Not the kind of people I want as neighbors and countrymen.
The Dominican Republic wants to change their anchor baby law and take away citizenship to the children of illegals all the way back to the 1920's. I can't imagine doing anything that drastic, but we had better change our anchor baby law, and we had better consider taking citizenship away from all those 5 years old and younger, at the very least, if we are to save this country.
Right now we have a congress where all the Hispanics in office have banded together and are demanding rights for the illegals with the Affordable Care Act. Anyone who doesn't think this is a planned takeover had better look again, and please do it quickly.
Yeah remember Term.....
You must have forgot but remember I said I was done with you?
Imeant it!
Did you know they still return home? They are flocking out of town now, well before Christmas break and most will be gone way longer than the 2 week vacation. Some are gone 2, 4, and 6 weeks. I'd like a vacation for me and my kids like that.
5:40pm, yes and the kids are not penalized for being gone that long. Why are they not truant? Again, different rules for these people. 50% grading policy instituted for them, and I guess 50% attendance.
5:40/12:02 How does the BOE justify this?
If you are REALLY concerned and want to know? Why not go and find out for yourself? When people post facts, you question them instead of those who can help you.
Ask at a meeting you attend, then give us the answers please.
Panic/Hispanic: Sandy Miller you may want to look up the word Hispanic. As I read the definition it does not apply to those being called Hispanic here. Plus please don't forget those from Dominican Republic and the great territory Puerto Rico. I've had that thrown in my face plenty of times too. The majority of this town is MEXICAN - call it what you will but the politically correct Hispanic seems very incorrect.
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